Kakuzu > Trollkage

[GwemBaba]

I'd like to see scans of these so called feats. Domu's best feat is tanking Choji's attack and you guys say it can tank Joki Boy's explosion..

Doesn't matter if they are immediately one after another. Each Explosion will cause damage and it will add up as it blows up over and over again.


It would be significant if we knew anything about it. Since we don't it is insignificant.



The masks are commanded by Kakuzu anyway, and he is affected by the mirage.

I'd like to see a scan from you on JB producing enough force to put a dent in Kakuzu's armour.

As Kakuzu's armour has never been shown any physical damage you can't state that Joki Boi's continued attacks will affect it.

It'd be like me saying that the armour will instantly regenerate the damage done; which may be plausible but I have nothing to back it up on.

The simple fact that it is water is significant, though of minor significance as we don't know to what extent he can use water style.

In lacking eyes it is likely that they act on sensing Chakra above all else, though we can only assume due to lack of eyes.

This would mean that the Mirage would be ineffective against them; the mist would still be significant as it is Chakra but they would be able to possibly sense out their Chakra signatures as there would obviously be a higher concentration in the location where they are located.

The masks have also shown to act without Kakuzu's intervention at least twice (Apologies for no manga scans, still on phone).

And on both these occasions he was shown to be clinically dead.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Doesn't change the fact that repeated explosions are going to melt through it. Also Domu doesn't even turn his body into iron so it doesn't share Iron's melting point either.

hmmm., yes tf it does dumbfuk. AND HE CAN RENEW HIS DOMU.

 

[Onion Soda]

Irons melting point>golds We don't know if it is actually iron, anyway by the time of a second explotion it will melt. Also, his body would get hot and fry all his hearts

Gaaras sand tanked it Restrained the explotion, not the same thing. It cant tank it, just contain

Kakuzu can

So, Gaara's sand =< Kakuzu's spear (B-Ranked). Then Gaara's sand is also B-ranked and then Amateratsu is B-ranked.

WOW, JUST WOW

 

[RicardoA]

So your telling me he is going to kill a man who survived against hashirama 5 times? BeFore the clam is found?

Keep in mine he didn't have 5 hearts when fighting hashirama.

What does that sentence has to do with anything i said?
We don't know if he escaped or if Hashirama let him live. What does it matter if he had 5 hearts or not, what he can do without the masks beside Earth Grudge Fear and Earth Spear is unknown...

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

So, Gaara's sand =< Kakuzu's spear (B-Ranked). Then Gaara's sand is also B-ranked and then Amateratsu is B-ranked.

WOW, JUST WOW

WOW JUST WOW,

Iron>sands melting point.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'd like to see a scan from you on JB producing enough force to put a dent in Kakuzu's armour.

As Kakuzu's armour has never been shown any physical damage you can't state that Joki Boi's continued attacks will affect it.

It'd be like me saying that the armour will instantly regenerate the damage done; which may be plausible and I have nothing to back it up on.

You are the one who just came here and told me that Kakuzu has displayed more than enough feats to tank an explosion for Joki Boy so I expect you to back up your claims. What are these so called feats that let him tank 1 let alone multiple explosions of Joki Boy's magnitude?

Joki Boy has enough heat to melt through gold, that will melt right through Domu or the heat will simply melt him from the inside.

@bold: Horrible logic. By that logic since Nagato has never been put in Genjutsu we should say that he is immune to it.

The simple fact that it is water is significant, though of minor significance as we don't know to what extent he can use water style.

Exactly, thus it can't be used in this debate.

In lacking eyes it is likely that they act on sensing Chakra above all else, though we can only assume due to lack of eyes.

This would mean that the Mirage would be ineffective against them; the must would still be significant as it is Chakra but they would be able to possibly sense out their Chakra signatures as there would obviously be a higher concentration in the location where they are located.

The masks have also shown to act without Kakuzu's intervention at least twice (Apologies for no manga scans, still on phone).

And on both these occasions he was shown to be clinically dead.

The Mizukage nor the clam can be sensed by chakra sensors. Only contact sensing like sand sensing will work. Hence the ninja saying since its not a mirage I can sense him. So they are still fooled by the Genjutsu.

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[Onion Soda]

WOW JUST WOW,

Iron>sands melting point.

How does it answer anything I just say? It doesn't.
Don't be in denial and don't be a fanboy.
I like Kakuzu too, but he can't beat everyone you want.

No offense, but if you're not being fair with anybody who refutes your points, then you shouldn't do a VS thread.

 

[KidGamer65]

hmmm., yes tf it does dumbfuk. AND HE CAN RENEW HIS DOMU.

What a dumbass. Domu hardens his skin it doesn't turn it into iron.

Not gonna waste my time with you anymore stupid troll.

 

[Onion Soda]

Joki Boy has enough heat to melt through gold, that will melt right through Domu or the heat will simply melt him from the inside.

Exactly! That was my point since the begining, it doesn't really matters how hard is that B-ranked jutsu

 

[Onion Soda]

WOW JUST WOW,

Iron>sands melting point.

Iron melting point: 1538ºC
Sand (Silicon dioxide) melting point: 1725ºC

You failed

 

[GwemBaba]

You are the one who just came here and told me that Kakuzu has displayed more than enough feats to tank an explosion for Joki Boy so I expect you to back up your claims. What are these so called feats that let him tank 1 let alone multiple explosions of Joki Boy's magnitude?

Joki Boy has enough heat to melt through gold, that will melt right through Domu or the heat will simply melt him from the inside.

@bold: Horrible logic. By that logic since Nagato has never been put in Genjutsu we should say that he is immune to it.


Exactly, thus it can't be used in this debate.



The Mizukage nor the clam can be sensed by chakra sensors. Only contact sensing like sand sensing will work. Hence the ninja saying since its not a mirage I can sense him. So they are still fooled by the Genjutsu.

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You're being hypocritical now, you've stated that Joki Boi will easily blow through Kakuzu's armor, armor which has showed no signs of being broken through and have given no evidence what so ever to back this up.

And you expect me to back up claims when you can't even do such yourself?

And my "Horrible logic" isn't so horrible, as Nagato hasn't been stated to be immune to Genjutsu, where as the Earth Spear has been stated to bring damage resistance to utmost limits.

Not only is your comparison weak, but is also baseless.

Joki Boi melted the Gold when it was immersed in it; when Gaara encased it in sand.

Unless JB can somehow consentrate all his heat energy (Which we don't even know what the effect will be, let alone if he can do it) into a fixed point, and deposit it all into Kakuzu, I don't even see how this is a valid point.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Iron melting point: 1538ºC
Sand (Silicon dioxide) melting point: 1725ºC

You failed

If muu and gaara found the clan, than so can kakuzu.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

I'm just glad he was killed by what is still one of the strongest techniques in Naruto.

i know right???

 

[Strawberry]

trollkage mid diff idont think kakuzu is smart enough

 

[KidGamer65]

You're being hypocritical now, you've stated that Joki Boi will easily blow through Kakuzu's armor, armor which has showed no signs of being broken through and have given no evidence what so ever to back this up.

And you expect me to back up claims when you can't even do such yourself?

And my "Horrible logic" isn't so horrible, as Nagato hasn't been stated to be immune to Genjutsu, where as the Earth Spear has been stated to bring damage resistance to utmost limits.

Not only is your comparison weak, but is also baseless.

Joki Boi melted the Gold when it was immersed in it; when Gaara encased it in sand.

Unless JB can somehow consentrate all his heat energy (Which we don't even know what the effect will be, let alone if he can do it) into a fixed point, and deposit it all into Kakuzu, I don't even see how this is a valid point.

You and the OP made the claim that multiple Joki Boy explosions are tanked by Domu. You also said that Kakuzu has shown more than enough feats to tank it yet haven't shown me these supposed feats. When you make ridiculous claims like Domu can tank multiple Joki Boy explosions with no damage at all when Kakuzu has shown no defensive feats that allow anyone to say he can tank Joki boy with no damage over and over again its wise to back up those ridiculous claims.

I said that multiple explosions will break through Domu.


Domu and Enma in his Adamantine form were both said to be as hard as diamond and the latter was worried Kusanagi could hurt him and you expect me to believe he will tank multiple Joki Boy explosions with no damage at all? Not a chance. Kakuzu may be able to survive one explosion due to his skin begin reinforced by Domu,but that doesn't mean that the masks (more specifically the Earth mask) will be protected from the explosion. Multiple Explosions either shatter the mask on his back first or get past his defense.

Still waiting for these so called feats Kakuzu has that you spoke of..

 

[Fecal Matter]

I didn't say what I think. I said Trollkage is stronger.

I agree but you could've said something to back it up.Nothing serious.

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[Hashirama Senjuu]

You and the OP made the claim that multiple Joki Boy explosions are tanked by Domu. You also said that Kakuzu has shown more than enough feats to tank it yet haven't shown me these supposed feats. When you make ridiculous claims like Domu can tank multiple Joki Boy explosions with no damage at all when Kakuzu has shown no defensive feats that allow anyone to say he can tank Joki boy with no damage over and over again its wise to back up those ridiculous claims.

I said that multiple explosions will break through Domu.



Domu and Enma in his Adamantine form were both said to be as hard as diamond and the latter was worried Kusanagi could hurt him and you expect me to believe he will tank multiple Joki Boy explosions with no damage at all? Not a chance. Kakuzu may be able to survive one explosion due to his skin begin reinforced by Domu,but that doesn't mean that the masks (more specifically the Earth mask) will be protected from the explosion. Multiple Explosions either shatter the mask on his back first or get past his defense.

Still waiting for these so called feats Kakuzu has that you spoke of..

you dont you know the melting point of his domu so you cant say it melts through. If sand blocked it, than his skin can has its harder than sand. He can renew his domu as well. Joki boys reoccurence won't be an issue. Joki boy isn't a factor in this fight.

He can find the clam eventually. If gaara and muu did it, then kakuzu can do it with four separate things looking.

 

[KidGamer65]

you dont you know the melting point of his domu so you cant say it melts through. If sand blocked it, than his skin can has its harder than sand. He can renew his domu as well. Joki boys reoccurence won't be an issue. Joki boy isn't a factor in this fight.

He can find the clam eventually. If gaara and muu did it, then kakuzu can do it with four separate things looking.

Gaara's sand was able to protect Sunagakure from Deidara's C3 explosion, Kakuzu isn't tanking an explosion that would decimate a large portion of a village. So comparing his sand to Domu isn't helping you here. Still waiting on evidence that Domu can tank multiple Joki Boy explosions. Until you post this info you won't get another reply.

Gaara did it because he has Sand Sensing. Muu has Jinton which covers a large area of the battlefield. Kakuzu doesn't so he isn't finding the clam.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Gaara's sand was able to protect Sunagakure from Deidara's C3 explosion, Kakuzu isn't tanking an explosion that would decimate a large portion of a village. So comparing his sand to Domu isn't helping you here. Still waiting on evidence that Domu can tank multiple Joki Boy explosions. Until you post this info you won't get another reply.

Gaara did it because he has Sand Sensing. Muu has Jinton which covers a large area of the battlefield. Kakuzu doesn't so he isn't finding the clam.

ARE YOU FUKING STUPID? HIS WIND/FIRE COMBO COVERS A LARGE PORTION OF THE BATTLEFIELD.

I'm waiting on evidence that his domu cant tank joki boy. My evidence is: we dont know it's melting point so we cant use melting as an option, and the blast won't help because earth>water, and he tanked an explosive that wasn't water. Now I want your evidence that it cant tank joki boy.

 

[KidGamer65]

ARE YOU FUKING STUPID? HIS WIND/FIRE COMBO COVERS A LARGE PORTION OF THE BATTLEFIELD.

Not really as Kakashi and Team 10 dodged it with no problem at all.

I'm waiting on evidence that his domu cant tank joki boy. My evidence is: we dont know it's melting point so we cant use melting as an option, and the blast won't help because earth>water, and he tanked an explosive that wasn't water. Now I want your evidence that it cant tank joki boy.

Everything in the bold is shit that has already been countered. Don't make a thread when you can't even back up the nonsense you put in it.