Kakuzu > Trollkage

[Onion Soda]

Not at all, in response to all three of you, if Joki Boi elects to dodge the water then it's highly likely he'll dodge them.

However, if he were to attack Kakuzu directly he'll put himself at risk of being hit by the water.




The water Jutsu will likely evaporate depending on the quantity that hits Joki Boi, this will sap heat and energy from Joki Boi, shortening the lifespan of the Jutsu.

There is no evidence that Joki Boi can even break though the Earth Spear.



Read above.

He is covered in oil, he is impermeable otherwise it won't carry any water. Kakuzu's elemental ninjutsu is B-ranked is not that powerful, fast nor wide ranged. It becomes stronger by combining them wich beats the purpose of using water too cool it down sinces: Water (I''ve already said. wont cool it down), Lightning (heats things up), Fire + Wind (dumb move, it will instanty make him explode).
So even if JB gets reached at CC he will explode with a temperature of 1080ºC (more than enough to fry a string) and, not a minr detail, JB recovers and heats againt fast so Kakuzu's Iron armor wouldn't have cooled down by that time.
Kakuzu would easily get 1500ºC enough to melt iron.

 

[Onion Soda]

So your telling me he is going to kill a man who survived against hashirama 5 times? BeFore the clam is found?

Keep in mine he didn't have 5 hearts when fighting hashirama.

Seeing last chapter, I wont be surprised at all if Hashi offered his life to Kakuzu LOL.
On a serious note, Hashi seems like a guy who needs to be really pissed of to kill somebody. I am sure he didn't even take Kakuzu serious. Hence, Kakuzu surviving.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not at all, in response to all three of you, if Joki Boi elects to dodge the water then it's highly likely he'll dodge them.

However, if he were to attack Kakuzu directly he'll put himself at risk of being hit by the water.




The water Jutsu will likely evaporate depending on the quantity that hits Joki Boi, this will sap heat and energy from Joki Boi, shortening the lifespan of the Jutsu.

There is no evidence that Joki Boi can even break though the Earth Spear.

That depends on how strong the Water jutsu is but since we don't know anything about it. Discussing its effect on Joki Boy is pointless.

Kakuzu's Earth Spear lacks the feats for anyone to say it can tank repeated explosions from Joki Boy. Joki Boy reaches temps of over 100 Degrees Celsius. Repeated explosions would heat up and blow right through his armor.

How tf do you hurt skin that's as hard as diamond, and how do you hurt threads? Kakuzu won't feel it. As we saw when they were cutting his threads while he was trying to capture them.

Enma is as hard as diamond yet he said Kusanagi could damage him. Diamond is not an impressive defense in the Narutoverse. Joki Boy's explosion is large enough to blow right through his threads.

You act like its impossible to find the clam, when it's not, the clam is such a huge target that it would be easy to hit it with ninjutsu the size of kakuzus

When Joki Boy and the Genjutsu are active it is near impossible unless you have moves that destroy large portions of the battlefield like TBB or PS's sword slash. Kakuzu doesn't have those so he isn't fighting the clam before Joki Boy kills him.

Joki boy cant get though kakuzus skin. Joki boy isn't a factor. If kakuzu uses the same combo as he used against Naruto then joki boy will not be a factor. If he get close then is fire/wind combo would blow him back. Or at least match the explosion.

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[KidGamer65]

On a technicality, the Masks wouldn't even be affected by the Genjutsu.

If the masks can see they will be affected, since they can perceive sight they will be fooled by the Genjutsu as it is simply mist creating false images.

 

[GwemBaba]

He is covered in oil, he is impermeable otherwise it won't carry any water. Kakuzu's elemental ninjutsu is B-ranked is not that powerful, fast nor wide ranged. It becomes stronger by combining them wich beats the purpose of using water too cool it down sinces: Water (I''ve already said. wont cool it down), Lightning (heats things up), Fire + Wind (dumb move, it will instanty make him explode).
So even if JB gets reached at CC he will explode with a temperature of 1080ºC (more than enough to fry a string) and, not a minr detail, JB recovers and heats againt fast so Kakuzu's Iron armor wouldn't have cooled down by that time.
Kakuzu would easily get 1500ºC enough to melt iron.

The water will act as a means to force Joki Boi to expend more Chakra, shortening it's lifespan.

You can't just say that Kakuzu won't cool down in time.

The fire and Wind is a great combination, as exploding will force it to expend its chakra even quicker.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

That depends on how strong the Water jutsu is but since we don't know anything about it. Discussing its effect on Joki Boy is pointless.

Kakuzu's Earth Spear lacks the feats for anyone to say it can tank repeated explosions from Joki Boy. Joki Boy reaches temps of over 100 Degrees Celsius. Repeated explosions would heat up and blow right through his armor.



Enma is as hard as diamond yet he said Kusanagi could damage him. Diamond is not an impressive defense in the Narutoverse. Joki Boy's explosion is large enough to blow right through his threads.



When Joki Boy and the Genjutsu are active it is near impossible unless you have moves that destroy large portions of the battlefield like TBB or PS's sword slash. Kakuzu doesn't have those so he isn't fighting the clam before Joki Boy kills him.



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show me a scan of anything getting through kakuzus earth spear. Exactly. Joki boy can't get through.
He cant kill kakuzu five times.

 

[KidGamer65]

show me a scan of anything getting through kakuzus earth spear. Exactly. Joki boy can't get through.
He cant kill kakuzu five times.

Fail logic doesn't apply here. Until you can support your claim it means nothing in this debate.

Kakuzu's Earth Spear lacks the feats for anyone to say it can tank repeated explosions from Joki Boy. Joki Boy reaches temps of over 100 Degrees Celsius. Repeated explosions would heat up and blow right through his armor.

Enma is as hard as diamond yet he said Kusanagi could damage him. Diamond is not an impressive defense in the Narutoverse. Joki Boy's explosion is large enough to blow right through his threads.

Joki Boy will continuously blow him up so yes he can kill him far more than 5 times.

 

[GwemBaba]

If the masks can see they will be affected, since they can perceive sight they will be fooled by the Genjutsu as it is simply mist creating false images.

That depends on how strong the Water jutsu is but since we don't know anything about it. Discussing its effect on Joki Boy is pointless.

Kakuzu's Earth Spear lacks the feats for anyone to say it can tank repeated explosions from Joki Boy. Joki Boy reaches temps of over 100 Degrees Celsius. Repeated explosions would heat up and blow right through his armor.



Enma is as hard as diamond yet he said Kusanagi could damage him. Diamond is not an impressive defense in the Narutoverse. Joki Boy's explosion is large enough to blow right through his threads.



When Joki Boy and the Genjutsu are active it is near impossible unless you have moves that destroy large portions of the battlefield like TBB or PS's sword slash. Kakuzu doesn't have those so he isn't fighting the clam before Joki Boy kills him.



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Kakuzu has displayed more than enough feats to tank an explosion from Joki Boi, the explosions aren't immediately one after the other so it's not going to destroy it that way.

The water Jutsu is significant as it provides a way for Joki Boi to be taken out quicker, though in no way am I saying that it's going to be able to immediately defeat him, and I'm not going to make assumptions on its strength; I'm just thinking science here.

The Masks haven't displayed any visible eyes so we can infer that they can't be affected by the Genjutsu.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Fail logic doesn't apply here. Until you can support your claim it means nothing in this debate.

Kakuzu's Earth Spear lacks the feats for anyone to say it can tank repeated explosions from Joki Boy. Joki Boy reaches temps of over 100 Degrees Celsius. Repeated explosions would heat up and blow right through his armor.

Enma is as hard as diamond yet he said Kusanagi could damage him. Diamond is not an impressive defense in the Narutoverse. Joki Boy's explosion is large enough to blow right through his threads.

Joki Boy will continuously blow him up so yes he can kill him far more than 5 times.

You act like he cant just renew his earth spear.

Joki boy cant kill him once.

 

[Onion Soda]

The water will act as a means to force Joki Boi to expend more Chakra, shortening it's lifespan.

You can't just say that Kakuzu won't cool down in time.

The fire and Wind is a great combination, as exploding will force it to expend its chakra even quicker.

Dude, you just said that Kakuzu would reach him in CC, so the explosion would be too damn close. The explotion reachs 1000ºC, even if he survives that, a second one will come right next. So he won't have time to coold down and (also) he would be beheaded by JB's arm. If Kakuzu's body were to reach 1000ºC it would fry all his hearts anyway, sinces body hardness has nothng to do with temperature.
As I say previously, JB doesn't takes his toll in chakra after all that wouldn't be a problem while Edo. JB uses oil, and that oil comes from trollkage that's why his body gets weaker it has no direct relation with chakra.

Sorry, but no matter how much I like Kakuzu, he doesn't have a chance against the mighty trollkage.

 

[Onion Soda]

Kakuzu has displayed more than enough feats to tank an explosion from Joki Boi, the explosions aren't immediately one after the other so it's not going to destroy it that way.

The water Jutsu is significant as it provides a way for Joki Boi to be taken out quicker, though in no way am I saying that it's going to be able to immediately defeat him, and I'm not going to make assumptions on its strength; I'm just thinking science here.

The Masks haven't displayed any visible eyes so we can infer that they can't be affected by the Genjutsu.

The mask doesn't have setience, they are commanded by Kakuzu and he is affected by the mirage.

 

[KidGamer65]

]Kakuzu has displayed more than enough feats to tank an explosion from Joki Boi[/B], the explosions aren't immediately one after the other so it's not going to destroy it that way.

I'd like to see scans of these so called feats. Domu's best feat is tanking Choji's attack and you guys say it can tank Joki Boy's explosion..

Doesn't matter if they are immediately one after another. Each Explosion will cause damage and it will add up as it blows up over and over again. Kakuzu isn't tanking one of these let alone multiple explosions.

The water Jutsu is significant as it provides a way for Joki Boi to be taken out quicker, though in no way am I saying that it's going to be able to immediately defeat him, and I'm not going to make assumptions on its strength; I'm just thinking science here.

It would be significant if we knew anything about it. Since we don't it is insignificant.

The Masks haven't displayed any visible eyes so we can infer that they can't be affected by the Genjutsu.

The masks are commanded by Kakuzu anyway, and he is affected by the mirage.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Dude, you just said that Kakuzu would reach him in CC, so the explosion would be too damn close. The explotion reachs 1000ºC, even if he survives that, a second one will come right next. So he won't have time to coold down and (also) he would be beheaded by JB's arm. If Kakuzu's body were to reach 1000ºC it would fry all his hearts anyway, sinces body hardness has nothng to do with temperature.
As I say previously, JB doesn't takes his toll in chakra after all that wouldn't be a problem while Edo. JB uses oil, and that oil comes from trollkage that why his body gets weaker it has no direct relation with chakra.

Sorry, but no matter how much I like Kakuzu, he doesn't have a chance against the mighty trollkage.

His hearts wouldn't be in his body, they would be looking for the trollkage.

Read my OP, he is a match for the trollkage.

Earth spear>Joki boy

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

I'd like to see scans of these so called feats. Domu's best feat is tanking Choji's attack and you guys say it can tank Joki Boy's explosion..

Doesn't matter if they are immediately one after another. Each Explosion will cause damage and it will add up as it blows up over and over again.


It would be significant if we knew anything about it. Since we don't it is insignificant.



The masks are commanded by Kakuzu anyway, and he is affected by the mirage.

no they act independently. As seen when they were still about when kakuzu was dead. As well as when they were attacking kakashi when kakuzu was fight ino shika cho

 

[AGoodBoy]

I'd like to see scans of these so called feats. Domu's best feat is tanking Choji's attack and you guys say it can tank Joki Boy's explosion..

Doesn't matter if they are immediately one after another. Each Explosion will cause damage and it will add up as it blows up over and over again.


It would be significant if we knew anything about it. Since we don't it is insignificant.



The masks are commanded by Kakuzu anyway, and he is affected by the mirage.

Kid, I stop in this thread from time to time, I only have one question... Why are you still arguing? These guys are making feats

 

[KidGamer65]

no they act independently. As seen when they were still about when kakuzu was dead. As well as when they were attacking kakashi when kakuzu was fight ino shika cho

That means they perceive sight which means they are fooled by the Genjutsu anyway.

I see you still haven't proven how Domu tanks Joki Boy with no damage at all.

Kid, I stop in this thread from time to time, I only have one question... Why are you still arguing? These guys are making feats

I don't know...that's a good question though, maybe I should just quit.

 

[Onion Soda]

His hearts wouldn't be in his body, they would be looking for the trollkage.

Read my OP, he is a match for the trollkage.

Earth spear>Joki boy

Why and How? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN 1000ºC EXPLOSION, not about a fatass rolling over you. We are talking about heat not about elemental pecking order wich doesn't apply to this case...

So, he will let his main heart, brain and body exposed to JB explosion that makes things easier for trollkage.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Why and How? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN 1000ºC EXPLOSION, not about a fatass rolling over you. We are talking about heat not about elemental pecking order wich doesn't apply to this case...

So, he will let his main heart, brain and body exposed to JB explosion that makes things easier for trollkage.

Irons melting point>golds

Gaaras sand tanked it

Kakuzu can

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Why and How? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN 1000ºC EXPLOSION, not about a fatass rolling over you. We are talking about heat not about elemental pecking order wich doesn't apply to this case...

So, he will let his main heart, brain and body exposed to JB explosion that makes things easier for trollkage.

Umm kakuzus only living part is his heart. Unless you can prove otherwise.

 

[KidGamer65]

Irons melting point>golds

Gaaras sand tanked it

Kakuzu can

Doesn't change the fact that repeated explosions are going to melt through it. Also Domu doesn't even turn his body into iron so it doesn't share Iron's melting point either.