Kakuzu & Hidan VS 4 Tailed Naruto

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No, because Sasuke in CM1 and Sasuke in CM2 are the same person with the same abilities but enhanced. Yugito and Naruto are not the same person nor are the V2 and Bijuu transformations.

"lol the difference doesn't mean anything here"

I'm just going to let you re-read everything that has been said so you can realize why it does matter since I already know I'm wasting my time arguing with someone who will argue for pages for these two and then drop the argument instead of conceding.
So you're saying they could beat a Yugito with a shroud :lol? Its stupid to believe a group meant to take down jins wouldn't have a way to take down a jin shroud.

Pure feats and they obviously lose I'm really just arguing on how dumb it is smh.
 

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So you're saying they could beat a Yugito with a shroud :lol? Its stupid to believe a group meant to take down jins wouldn't have a way to take down a jin shroud.

Pure feats and they obviously lose I'm really just arguing on how dumb it is smh.
No, what's stupid is saying they can get past a shroud capable of tanking Raikiri and Kusanagi because they are in the Akatsuki. What's dumb is how you people reach when it comes to your favorite characters. We've seen Kakuzu and Hidan's abilities and none are stronger than what the v2 shroud has already tanked.

By this terrible logic I'd be like "Ha, they are a group meant to take down Bijuu thus they must have a way to take down any Bijuu in any form". Lmao Just stop. Please just stop.
 
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No, what's stupid is saying they can get past a shroud capable of tanking Raikiri and Kusanagi because they are in the Akatsuki. What's dumb is how you people reach when it comes to your favorite characters. We've seen Kakuzu and Hidan's abilities and none are stronger than what the v2 shroud has already tanked.

By this terrible logic I'd be like "Ha, they are a group meant to take down Bijuu thus they must have a way to take down any Bijuu in any form". Lmao Just stop. Please just stop.
......... THEY TOOK DOWN A FULLY TRANSFORMED YUGITO and they literally weren't even that bothered by her going full form, again why have people within the Akatsuki that couldn't do the job :lol they can take down Bijuu who have no other abilities (via hype and portrayal).

But again they lose this match with feats lol.
 

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......... THEY TOOK DOWN A FULLY TRANSFORMED YUGITO and they literally weren't even that bothered by her going full form, again why have people within the Akatsuki that couldn't do the job :lol they can take down Bijuu who have no other abilities (via hype and portrayal).

But again they lose this match with feats lol.
Lmao I'm done. You know you've lost when you repeat the same nonsense argument that has been addressed, but in different words. If anyone else wants to waste their time arguing with these clowns then go right ahead.
 

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No there is no argument to be made, point is if this happens in the manga they win. Don't care what they do here in this section, they can lose it doesn't really mean anything.
 

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People arguing why the duo's win based off what they did in the manga and DB statements via portrayal, making it clear cut that they are superior to jinjiruki's as a duo.

Clowns: "Oh but the Zombie Duo's are an exception because I dont like the people who debates for them."




An actual argument made why they can still win despite no jutsus capable of breaching or damaging the cloaks defense. Arguments made on why they can still bypass the issue.

Clowns either pretend they didnt read it, get mad if they did, and down vote for adding more reasons.

Pathetic.
 
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Shit is insane when in my post I literally said they don't win on feats, the logic in my post is still clearly true though :lol
 

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The duo taking out full Bijuu yugito means shit when Deidara took out a Bijuu with one small bomb alone so does that mean Deidaracan take out everyone not Bijuu level? F*ck no. Immortal duo gets shit on hype dont mean anything when we've already seen their shitty feats.
 

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portrayal man[despite one of them got buried by a chunin other got violated by base naruto]
kid konohamaru took down one of the pains so he somehow shits on deva and asura :lol
When it comes to wanking their favorite characters match ups apparently aren't a thing anymore. Having the skill set to deal with A doesn't mean you have the skillset to deal with B and they are the first people to argue this when Tsunade vs. Hidan or Gai vs. Hidan threads are made.

But again, only matters when it benefits Kakuzu and Hidan. Trash. :lol
 

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When it comes to wanking their favorite characters match ups apparently aren't a thing anymore. Having the skill set to deal with A doesn't mean you have the skillset to deal with B and they are the first people to argue this when Tsunade vs. Hidan or Gai vs. Hidan threads are made.

But again, only matters when it benefits Kakuzu and Hidan. Trash. :lol
Again you're completely wrong I'm literally stating that taking on a Bijuu and losing to a shrouded jin is dumb, has nothing to do with the matchup here.

Take your whining about Hidan's matchups and abilities somewhere else KG as what I'm saying is all portrayal and has nothing to do with an advantageous or disadvantageous matchup because again.... THEY LOSE THIS MATCH CLEARLY.
 

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Again you're completely wrong I'm literally stating that taking on a Bijuu and losing to a shrouded jin is dumb, has nothing to do with the matchup here.

Take your whining about Hidan's matchups and abilities somewhere else KG as what I'm saying is all portrayal and has nothing to do with an advantageous or disadvantageous matchup because again.... THEY LOSE THIS MATCH CLEARLY.
Don't quote me on this topic unless you have something new to add.
 

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:lol
portrayal man[despite one of them got buried by a chunin other got violated by base naruto]
kid konohamaru took down one of the pains so he somehow shits on deva and asura :lol
Lol yet that same portrayal had them taking down a Bijuu without any difficulty....so what exactly is your point here?
 

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Don't quote me on this topic unless you have something new to add.
Nothing new just don't go putting words in my mouth :lol just because all of you ***** and moan about Hidan and Kakuzu matchups, literally nothing I said here correlates so don't go stating I'm being ignorant.
 

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How did they do it? Describe it, specifically.
Who knows, but Kakuzu showed no loss of hearts, nor did he show any damage or injury nor did Hidan seem all that hurt . Even during the confrontation they were never worried so saying "they beat it without being bothered" is a pretty logical conclusion here.
 

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The duo taking out full Bijuu yugito means shit when Deidara took out a Bijuu with one small bomb alone so does that mean Deidaracan take out everyone not Bijuu level? F*ck no. Immortal duo gets shit on hype dont mean anything when we've already seen their shitty feats.
This isn't true simply because again this fight was off-panel, we see Deidara use the fish but we don't see that it specifically is the move that KO'd the three tails. It could easily have been Kishi's way of showing a fight was initiated and Deidara did much more after that.
 

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Nothing new just don't go putting words in my mouth :lol just because all of you ***** and moan about Hidan and Kakuzu matchups, literally nothing I said here correlates so don't go stating I'm being ignorant.
It does correlate. You are just too delusional when it comes to these two to see it. You think Hidan w/ Kakuzu as support can take out a Bijuu thus any shrouded Jinchuuriki is fair game even though the only reason they can take on a Bijuu is because of their skillset which does not help them against a shrouded Jinchuuriki due to the fact that Hidan is unable to pierce them. You then argue that even though Tsunade is portrayed on a level where she can handle opponents far above Hidan's paygrade, she loses to Hidan because she has no way to actually put him down. Gai is far above Hidan's paygrade and can handle people far above his paygrade, yet he loses to Hidan (according to you guys anyway) because he can't put him down. Hmm, sounds familiar doesn't it. :lol


Stop bitching about portrayal when you don't want to use it when your favorite characters are hurt by it. Stop crying about portrayal when match ups are a thing, supported by the Manga. That's why someone on or above Gai's level gets murked by Kisame while Gai can murk Kisame with ease. If B had used Version 2 against Taka instead of going Full Bijuu mode he would've had far less trouble as their attacks can't hurt him in that mode while going full Bijuu gives him more firepower and overall durability, but leaves him open for Amaterasu, which doesn't work on shrouds as shown by Naruto vs. Sasuke.

By your logic, if none of these fights had been shown on panel, you'd be saying:

-Sasuke and Taka pushed a Bijuu Mode Killer B thus he'd demolish Version 2.
-Gai defeated Kisame thus anyone on Gai's level would defeat Kisame as well despite Gai having a distinct advantage.
-Orochimaru got pushed harder than KN4 than Hidan w/ little to no support from Kakuzu did against Yugito. Orochimaru is portrayed to be on a completely different level to Hidan even without his arms. :lol

And I could go on. Also while I'm at it stop saying "Oh but I never said they'd win" when you are arguing they'd win based on portrayal. :lol Based on portrayal Hidan and Kakuzu are superior to Naruto. Based on the actual abilities and skills of the 3 they cannot win if they cannot hurt him. IF since Kakuzu still has a chance to do so.

Like I said, if you have nothing that wasn't already addressed you can stop posting now because I'm 99% sure you'll "read" this and then reply with something that makes no sense.
 
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