[VS] Kaku vs Jabra
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All I said is it wouldn't be the first time you went out of your way to make a thread because you disagreed with someone's opinion. No one's upset but you seem a tad defensive, but then that is normal when people start disagreeing with you. I don't mind what you think or what opinions you have on a topic I just dislike your attitude about it for the most part.
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Can you show me an example of me making a thread because I disagreed with someone's opinion? Fyi I didn't make this thread because of him saying Jabra>Kaku.
By that logic Sanji should have been able to completely break Jyabura's tekkai without DJ, because him and Zoro probably had a significantly higher douriki if measured.
Also Jyabura made Sanji sacrifice his body to land the final blow, showing you that it was Jyabura's mobility which gave Sanji so much trouble.
Zoro walked right into Kaku and overpowered him. Sanji had to use his head to beat Jyabura. It can be argued who had a tougher time, personally I think Sanji did.
Completely different fight, completely different fighting style.
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It's not like it shows a link to the threads you were in prior to creating your threads, but you make a bunch of vs and gauntlet threads and I've been in other threads where something is mentioned and then a few minutes later a vs thread pops up related to the topic mentioned in the thread crated by you so what conclusion would you expect people to make? If I can find a specific example I will let you know, there are a lot of Uzumaki names on here though chances are I may be accrediting some of those threads to you when they shouldn't be if so my mistake but you are kind of notorious for being unrelenting when someone has a different opinon. Just look in this thread at Cobra, he said who he thought would win, what level and why, you asked him why he disagreed with you(essentially) he explained again and you still came at him trying to make him agree, you couldn't just let him post his thought and be you had to challenge him on it.
He landed ample of hits on Jyabra without much struggle. If anything Zoro was the one to face hard time to land hits on Kaku. Sanji resorted to take the gamble only because he couldn't afford to miss it as the no. of hits he could use in DJ was limited to two back then.
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Supported by manga. Sanji clearly did said that DJ kick was reserved for fatal blow hence he didn't bother blocking Jyabras attack with second leg which means that he couldn't use it again. Otherwise, the whole gamble doesn't make any sense.
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While I agree with you, it can be argued that that's because Jabra wouldn't let Sanji spin to activate it a second time.
That only meant Sanji wouldn't get a chance again to hit him with it. Diable Jambe was very much like G2. It doesn't just run out after 2 hits. 2 hits is what was required to take out Jyabura thats all. And if Sanji didn't make sure the second one was endgame you think Jyabura would ever give Sanji the chance to hit him again? Heck Jyabura was already making it tough after tasting the first one. The second time HAD to be the last.
So its still an assumption. Not concrete enough.
No he really didn't have more strength, he pushed Kaku and blew him back before using Ashura along with stalemating him.
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. And no tekkai mastery can most likley equate to a more powerful tekkai. Blueno used regular tekkai and then tekkai gou, showing they were levels to tekkai, while if we are strictly comparing Bleuno and Kaku I would say Kaku due to the sheer strength difference while this isn't the case with Jaburya and Kaku. Jaburya should still have the stronger tekkai.
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This is where he has gotten a hold of how it feels to get hit by Sanji's kick. [
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] Even after that Sanji was able to tag him this many times without any struggle. [
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]. And Sanji in DJ is faster than Base Sanji. Jyabra will eventually be forced to get near Sanjji because all of his attacks are mid-close ranged so he won't be able to attack Sanji without getting near him. If Sanji can really maintain it for a prolonged period then there is absolutely no need for to rely on gamble. I know that DJ is a mode like G2 but Sanji simply isn't skilled enough to maintain it for longer back at EL.He already had it activated?
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Higher Doriki=stronger Tekkai. Jabra's was better because he could move while using it.
Also, my statement still stands. Zoro was able to push back Kaku because it was the force of Kaku's neck vs the force of Zoro's entire body.
What I meant was, if Sanji used DJ to deflect his strike, the DJ would have deactivated since it only had two shots per activation then, and Jabra wouldn't have let him activate it again.
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So you ignore the part about the different levels of it okay. And no the strongest part of Kaku's body is most likely his neck and you can't assume if Kaku used his whole body he'd over power Zoro while using ichi and ni Gorilla. Why would Kaku get the benefit of doubt at all in this situation.
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Different levels of it? What? Lucci made it clear: Stronger Doriki will yield a stronger Tekkai. Doesn't matter if Jabra has a hundred different levels, his strongest Tekkai will be weaker than anyone with a higher Doriki's Tekkai.
Even if the strongest part of his body is his neck(It's actually most likely his legs, since giraffes have powerful legs and his specialty was Rankyaku), it doesn't change that it was Zoro's entire body versus Kaku's neck alone. I'm not assuming anything, we've seen that when Kaku was throwing his entire body at Zoro, he was forcing Zoro backwards.
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] And I gave you proofs showing that in ample of instances in which he tried approaching Sanji to attack him and get attacked instead. He has no other choice as all of his attacks are close to mid range ones.