Kakashi's Sanity

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Inspired by King Hashirama's thread I got the thinking of Kakashi's character. His character leaves no excuses for characters who had a hard past validating their decisions. He had just as much if not the most reason to go insane, go rogue, join the akatsuki.

When he was just a kid his father was ridiculed and disgraced leading to his suicide because of the village.

Being at a young age he quickly became a jounin and to be sent on important missions and living his childhood on a battlefield. Then when he finally developed feelings for his comrades his friend Obito dies saving him charging him with his eye and protecting rin. Not only does he not protect Rin as per his promise but he is the one who kills her and that really effected him for awhile if it doesnt still. He has to sit by on the sidelines while his sensei dies protecting the village. He lives the rest of his life apologizing and living with a great burden of regret with the constant reminder of his failures (sharingan in his eye). He teaches his dead sensei's son (got be somwhat emotional) and then teaches Sasuke to care about friendship through chidori only for him to use his power to destroy his teamates. He watches team 7 descend into chaos unable to stop it and even though it probably couldnt be stopped either way he carries the guilt of not bringing them up as their sensei. After living through that guilt of Obito's death he discovers Obito is one of the main bad guys and has been living this entire time but yet at the same time Kakashi has to kill him just after learning he is alive. Now he has to watch Obito die again while he is powerless to help him.

Mainly for the events before now and in his younger days he probably had the best resume for an akatsuki member or missing nin. He has seen things at a young age that adult ninja might not have even been able to manage, yet he did not turn on anyone, go crazy or mad like others in similar positions. His character showed it was possible to manage and live through the guilt and sadness leaving no excuses for other characters. He had one of the most tragic backstories in the manga. It makes you wonder how did he not follow the path that others did.
 

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Inspired by King Hashirama's thread I got the thinking of Kakashi's character. His character leaves no excuses for characters who had a hard past validating their decisions. He had just as much if not the most reason to go insane, go rogue, join the akatsuki.

When he was just a kid his father was ridiculed and disgraced leading to his suicide because of the village.

Being at a young age he quickly became a jounin and to be sent on important missions and living his childhood on a battlefield. Then when he finally developed feelings for his comrades his friend Obito dies saving him charging him with his eye and protecting rin. Not only does he not protect Rin as per his promise but he is the one who kills her and that really effected him for awhile if it doesnt still. He has to sit by on the sidelines while his sensei dies protecting the village. He lives the rest of his life apologizing and living with a great burden of regret with the constant reminder of his failures (sharingan in his eye). He teaches his dead sensei's son (got be somwhat emotional) and then teaches Sasuke to care about friendship through chidori only for him to use his power to destroy his teamates. He watches team 7 descend into chaos unable to stop it and even though it probably couldnt be stopped either way he carries the guilt of not bringing them up as their sensei. After living through that guilt of Obito's death he discovers Obito is one of the main bad guys and has been living this entire time but yet at the same time Kakashi has to kill him just after learning he is alive. Now he has to watch Obito die again while he is powerless to help him.

Mainly for the events before now and in his younger days he probably had the best resume for an akatsuki member or missing nin. He has seen things at a young age that adult ninja might not have even been able to manage, yet he did not turn on anyone, go crazy or mad like others in similar positions. His character showed it was possible to manage and live through the guilt and sadness leaving no excuses for other characters. He had one of the most tragic backstories in the manga. It makes you wonder how did he not follow the path that others did.
In short: Kakashi is a badass
 

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Kakashis easily had one of the hardest lives out of anyone in the narutoverse. And the route he took after all that is why i respect him so much.

Him itachi and nagato to me had the hardest lives i can think of rn. Sasuke naruto and obito are up there as well
 
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I don't think there's anyone who dislikes Kakashi, he's just too calm and cool. I really want to see him fight seriously though.
 

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When will people learn not to try and measure people's pain of one another?
Never meant to measure pain as that is all relative to the person. Someone might consider a hard life losing your parents, another might consider their life hard cuz they weren't excepted into Harvard but on a third party view you can guage who had harder lives. I was saying Kakashi showed it was possible to live and not lose your mind due to tragic events. Says alot about his character and mental toughness
 

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He's had a pretty tough life but that doesn't mean no one else had the right to go bad the way they did. Naruto said it best in the past: Him and Sasuke roles could have easily been switched, it's a common theme in this manga is that characters are always interchangeable on the paths of good and evil. Kakashi is badass AF for staying consistent and who he is by carrying the will of Fire but it's because of the pain he experienced in the past that makes him persevere, he pushes past it so that those who died before him deaths won't be in vain. It could have very easily been the driving factor to turn Kakashi rogue himself but it turns out that it's what makes him strong. What makes Kakashi sane is the very thing that could have drove him insane. It's the same with many characters in the manga, but especially unique to Kakashi.
 

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Never meant to measure pain as that is all relative to the person. Someone might consider a hard life losing your parents, another might consider their life hard cuz they weren't excepted into Harvard but on a third party view you can guage who had harder lives. I was saying Kakashi showed it was possible to live and not lose your mind due to tragic events. Says alot about his character and mental toughness
You said that it 'leaves no excuses'. What does that mean? Because Kakashi overcame his, others should be able to do the same?

As a third party, we are not in a position to judge others pain and then decide which one is worse.
I have no idea why people even do that.
 
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This is what makes Kakashi unique. He's been through arguably more than the villains of the series, yet he's still a 'good guy'. He honestly makes characters like Madara, Obito, Orochimaru and Nagato look like pussies for not being able to endure their petty problems (excluding Nagato in this regard, as his problems were almost as worse as Kakashi's) and going on to become villains.

Kakashi is quite literally one of the only real ninja in this series, as it is stated many times that "shinobi are people that endure", and Kakashi has easily endured the most in the manga, if you ask me.
 
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Inspired by King Hashirama's thread I got the thinking of Kakashi's character. His character leaves no excuses for characters who had a hard past validating their decisions. He had just as much if not the most reason to go insane, go rogue, join the akatsuki.

When he was just a kid his father was ridiculed and disgraced leading to his suicide because of the village.

Being at a young age he quickly became a jounin and to be sent on important missions and living his childhood on a battlefield. Then when he finally developed feelings for his comrades his friend Obito dies saving him charging him with his eye and protecting rin. Not only does he not protect Rin as per his promise but he is the one who kills her and that really effected him for awhile if it doesnt still. He has to sit by on the sidelines while his sensei dies protecting the village. He lives the rest of his life apologizing and living with a great burden of regret with the constant reminder of his failures (sharingan in his eye). He teaches his dead sensei's son (got be somwhat emotional) and then teaches Sasuke to care about friendship through chidori only for him to use his power to destroy his teamates. He watches team 7 descend into chaos unable to stop it and even though it probably couldnt be stopped either way he carries the guilt of not bringing them up as their sensei. After living through that guilt of Obito's death he discovers Obito is one of the main bad guys and has been living this entire time but yet at the same time Kakashi has to kill him just after learning he is alive. Now he has to watch Obito die again while he is powerless to help him.

Mainly for the events before now and in his younger days he probably had the best resume for an akatsuki member or missing nin. He has seen things at a young age that adult ninja might not have even been able to manage, yet he did not turn on anyone, go crazy or mad like others in similar positions. His character showed it was possible to manage and live through the guilt and sadness leaving no excuses for other characters. He had one of the most tragic backstories in the manga. It makes you wonder how did he not follow the path that others did.
Well he could've followed Sasuke's path but he was intelligent or just lucky.
 

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Guys he isn't saying others have to be like him... He is saying, there isn't an excuse for people to join the akatsuki and become criminals.


Why are people being inspired by Naruto? Because he is still going even though he has seen one of the worst childhoods, and has seen many people die.. <<< If Naruto can do that and keep going, there shouldn't be an excuse from people who had the exact past as him, or maybe even less worst past than him.


Similarly to Kakashi... There shouldn't be an excuse for Obito, to turn bad. Did they turn bad? yes.. however is it justified, even though there are good guys who have gone through much more shit? no.

excuse : a reason or explanation put forward to defend or justify a fault or offense.

However, there is only 1 potential excuse.. and that is they didn't meet the right people. If Itachi had been friends with Jiraiya/Tsunade he wouldn't have had to deal with the Danzo matter. the only legit excuse those people have is their company that they developed with.

EVEN WITH THAT SAID... people like Hashirama.. prove it wrong.

So Kakashi is a prime example of what it means to "endure". Also the reason why i have mad respect for people like Hashirama/Naruto/Kakashi/Haku/Yahiko

This is what makes Kakashi unique. He's been through arguably more than the villains of the series, yet he's still a 'good guy'. He honestly makes characters like Madara, Obito, Orochimaru and Nagato look like pussies for not being able to endure their petty problems (excluding Nagato in this regard, as his problems were almost as worse as Kakashi's) and going on to become villains.

Kakashi is quite literally one of the only real ninja in this series, as it is stated many times that "shinobi are people that endure", and Kakashi has easily endured the most in the manga, if you ask me.
There is a reason why i stopped being a "nagato" fan, and that is when i realized, he basically spit on Yahiko's dead body, by going against what Yahiko stood for.
 
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He yeah I think he would be a great villain at this point but if he does he would pretty much go against everything he has done from teaching naruto and sasuke about friendship and with obito and rin protecting them and with his dad about leaving his comrades it would be a big slap to everyone's face and if he does become a bad guy then he would need to have a group because the akatsuki I gone so he could team up with Orochimaru and sasuke I actually think that would be a good plot for a part 3
 
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