[Discussion] Kakashis new eye

[Draven]

Yes i know ive said this in other threads ive posted but wanted togo into a little more detail about my assumptions.

Naruto knows about the strain and tunnel vision kakashi gets from using raikiri so its actually not that hard to believe, since Naruto knows about the weakness and chakra it took from kakashi to use the sharingan. That maybe naruto gave the new eye a small boost in percetion of speed.

People actually are calling kakashi fodder now but i myself dont even think this is the case.

Sakumo Hatake - Kakashis father was said to have power that rivaled the legendary sannin aka Tsunade Orochimaru and Jiraya.

Kakashi - Became Jounin at age 13 because of him being a genius.

Kakashi was trained by his dad and by Minato. Minato passed on the teachings he had by Hiruzen who was known as a Shinobi God.

Hiruzen was trained by The second and the First Hokages.

So in certain aspects Kakashi has knowledge of all 4 Hokages. He has also copied over 1000 Jutsus but because of his Sharingan he was limited in using them.

So even if Naruto didnt increase the speed aspect of kakashis new eye. Kakashi now has more chakra and years of battle expertise behind him. Plus he also has all those jutsus hes copied from his time with the sharingan.

I have a feeling we are about to see the true Kakashi now that he is not held back by the sharingans chakra drain.
Plus heres a little info i see people talking and see people say kakashi will die against Madara but it wont happen yet because even kishi said in his interview that he wants to reveal kakashis face so until that happens i dont think kakashi will die anytime soon.

 

[Aoihime]

Kakashi solos^^

 

[Champ]

Haha. Kakashi is fodder compared to Madara and you expect him to be a threat.

 

[Solog0d]

Haha. Kakashi is fodder compared to Madara and you expect him to be a threat.

this, kakashi is not so relevant without obitos eye

 

[Zorø]

Kakashi is fodder now he irrelevant.

 

[flyingpigwaffle]

this, kakashi is not so relevant without obitos eye

he will get rinnegan

 

[Draven]

wow you guys have no idea what kakashi is even capable of now that hes not limited by the sharingan. The man was considered to be kage level even we he had chakra drain by the sharingan. Now that he isnt limited by that chakra drain you guys call him fodder maybe compared to madaras power yes but i truly think we have not seen what hes actually capable of.

 

[Qu4zi]

wow you guys have no idea what kakashi is even capable of now that hes not limited by the sharingan. The man was considered to be kage level even we he had chakra drain by the sharingan. Now that he isnt limited by that chakra drain you guys call him fodder maybe compared to madaras power yes but i truly think we have not seen what hes actually capable of.

Lighting Blade need sharingan to work properly... His most used justu

 

[BLAZE]

I respectfully disagree
waiting for next ch though

 

[jtolliver87]

No more Kamui = he is not threat to Maddy

 

[its a plot]

Man, wait & we'll kno.what's gonna happen...

 

[Draven]

ok you guys just watch and wait now that he was full access to his chakra pools without them being constantly drained by the sharingan those 1000 jutsus are gonna come into play and with him being a genius i have a feeling hes gonna end up combining those jutsus hes copied to make some really badass ones

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

I cant wait till the manga is over so I dont have to associate with this fanbase.

 

[Draven]

I cant wait till the manga is over so I dont have to associate with this fanbase.

if you dont want to associate with us why are you here

 

[wanderingcactus]

Kakashis death will reveal his face

 

[Ashura San]

Kakashi was a jonin before the age of 3/4 of NV.
Even with the sharingan he was useless against Madara. Him losing that eye does not make him fodder. It's his ability to stay calm and analyze his opponents in tense situation and his intelligence that really makes him strong.

 

[veggetta13]

I agree with the comments arguing about for e.g. lightning blade usage without the use of sharingan, it does breach common sens eon how to view Kakashi´s character perception, regarding his physical abilities; however I come to differ giving him the benefit of doubt based on how he has always been an excellent tactician. Never forgets on taking into account the jutsu´s he´s used neither his chakra limit, all the way from the fight against Zabuza, Hidan, Pain, etc, up to Obito, even with upgrades.

Let him show what he´s capable of, I do wonder how cool will he apply some of those 1000 jutsus in the fight or whether he´ll be sacrificed for the story´s sake. he´s one of the pillars in the story so "fodder" applies only to characters such as Neji, Tenten, Asuma or Kimimaru, I urge you to be considered towards Kakashi.

 

[WalksInShadows]

the truth is, he was never as good as his father w/o Sharingan. He needed it just to be half decent with a sword, and he had to actually copy Zabuza's fighting style just to be that good. Dude's garbage swordsmanship is what got his dad's sword broken in the first place.

Lighting Blade need sharingan to work properly... His most used justu

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And by extension, any variant of that jutsu.

ok you guys just watch and wait now that he was full access to his chakra pools without them being constantly drained by the sharingan those 1000 jutsus are gonna come into play and with him being a genius i have a feeling hes gonna end up combining those jutsus hes copied to make some really badass ones

the fail part of this post lies in the fact that one has to actually possess Sharingan to use jutsu that were copied :yeah:

Kakashi was a jonin before the age of 3/4 of NV.
Even with the sharingan he was useless against Madara. Him losing that eye does not make him fodder. It's his ability to stay calm and analyze his opponents in tense situation and his intelligence that really makes him strong.

translation: he's about as useful as Shikamaru :snick:

 

[Draven]

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the fail part of this post lies in the fact that one has to actually possess Sharingan to use jutsu that were copied

where in the manga does it state that he has to have the sharingan to use the copied jutsu i remember it stating his sharingan helped him copy the jutsus not that he needed it to use them. show me proof and ill believe it but otherwise hmmph

 

[WalksInShadows]

where in the manga does it state that he has to have the sharingan to use the copied jutsu i remember it stating his sharingan helped him copy the jutsus not that he needed it to use them. show me proof and ill believe it but otherwise hmmph

1. if you actually read P1 then you wouldn't need someone to point you where it was said.


2. How is it exactly that you can attempt validating an argument out of Kakashi supposedly being able to use copied jutsu w/o a Sharingan, yet it is up to whoever disagrees with you to provide absolute proof that says otherwise? It basically says you don't know what you're talking about yet the other person has to satisfy your need to be proven wrong. Such dumb logic.