Kakashi's Kamui or Obito?

[garas56]

Why do people think Kakashi will surpass Obito when Kakashi can only use kamui like 2-3 times? It's only because of the Kyuubi's chakra that enables Kakashi to spam it more. Without it, I can't see him ever surpassing Obito.

We do not know how much chacra takes obitos kamui himself pousible Not much
And kakashis Long distance may take a large chacra amount so We shal see
and without Kyubi chacra he used Kamui 5 Times

 

[hamer34]

obito's is super developed

 

[choft]

We do not know how much chacra takes obitos kamui himself pousible Not much
And kakashis Long distance may take a large chacra amount so We shal see
and without Kyubi chacra he used Kamui 5 Times

Not once, have I ever seen Obito tire out of using Kamui, whilst Kakashi gets tired all the time. It's clear that Kakashi has a chakra problem, whilst Obito doesn't.

 

[garas56]

Not once, have I ever seen Obito tire out of using Kamui, whilst Kakashi gets tired all the time. It's clear that Kakashi has a chakra problem, whilst Obito doesn't.

Obito uses short range to be imune to attack so it may cost little of chakra and Kakashis long Range on moving objects may use huge amount of chakra also add that obito is an uchiha and Kakashi is not.I say one is god on attack and other is god on defence/Attack
so Obitos is Beter till Kakashi wont do any super Kamui whitch will kamui single area and with everything in it.

 

[avenged sevenfold]

kakshis seeing as he has less chakrqa and isnt as good as obito is with his kamui

 

[choft]

Obito uses short range to be imune to attack so it may cost little of chakra and Kakashis long Range on moving objects may use huge amount of chakra also add that obito is an uchiha and Kakashi is not.

Why does range have any effect on how much chakra they use? I'm pretty sure if their roles were reversed, Kakashi would still have a chakra problem, whilst Obito doesn't. Also, you kind of weakened your argument by saying that Obito is an Uchiha because this is one of the reason why Obito doesn't have a chakra problem, so it strengthens mine, and not yours.

 

[PredictionGuru]

Obito's Kamui >>>> Sakura's Kamui >> Kakashi's kamui

 

[garas56]

Why does range have any effect on how much chakra they use? I'm pretty sure if their roles were reversed, Kakashi would still have a chakra problem, whilst Obito doesn't. Also, you kind of weakened your argument by saying that Obito is an Uchiha because this is one of the reason why Obito doesn't have a chakra problem, so it strengthens mine, and not yours.

Ya kakashi wuld as i told he is not as god as Obitos but just for blodline as For Range i think Short range of using Kamui must take Less chakra than long range usage(Wuld be Logical).And i think Obito will die and give Kakashi his eye Then Kakashi wuld be so much op.We can see full potencial of the eyes when eyes is together.

 

[choft]

Ya kakashi wuld as i told he is not as god as Obitos but just for blodline as For Range i think Short range of using Kamui must take Les chakra than long range usage(Wuld be Logical).

Well Obito can do more than just kamui people away by touching them. He can make himself intangible and teleport long distances, both of which I've never seen Kakashi do. Until Kakashi has better chakra, (which I don't think he will get), he will never surpass Obito. He simply can't spam Kamui.

If Kakashi isn't a Uchiha, it's not Obito's problem. Obviously, if Obito wasn't an Uchiha, he would have problems too, but he is, and that's the way the manga is, so there is no point making excuses about it.

And i think Obito will die and give Kakashi his eye Then Kakashi wuld be so much op.We can see full potencial of the eyes when eyes is together.

Hasn't happened in the manga, so it's completely irrelevant here. If you really want to argue this, then you can also say the same thing for Kakashi. Kakashi will die and Obito gets the eyes together, which I bet would be more OP. But as I already said, this is completely irrelevant as neither scenarios have happened yet.

 

[garas56]

Well Obito can do more than just kamui people away by touching them. He can make himself intangible and teleport long distances, both of which I've never seen Kakashi do. Until Kakashi has better chakra, (which I don't think he will get), he will never surpass Obito. He simply can't spam Kamui.

If Kakashi isn't a Uchiha, it's not Obito's problem. Obviously, if Obito wasn't an Uchiha, he would have problems too, but he is, and that's the way the manga is, so there is no point making excuses about it.

Stop making that tone of talk
teleport long distances What do u mean?Page?
kamui people away by touching them and He can make himself intangible so close range Usage of an dojutsu takes less chakra thats why he can spam his Kamui and kakashis simply much more Smarter than Obito And obito Has Hahiramas dna two so Your argumenst
Whitch i has agred was that he has beter Chakra reservs but he is dumber and Can be deafeated just by Kakashis Kamui with help or not he will be defeated...

 

[choft]

Stop making that tone of talk
teleport long distances What do u mean?Page?
kamui people away by touching them and He can make himself intangible so close range Usage of an dojutsu takes less chakra thats why he can spam his Kamui and kakashis simply much more Smarter than Obito And obito Has Hahiramas dna two so Your argumenst
Whitch i has agred was that he has beter Chakra reservs but he is dumber and Can be deafeated just by Kakashis Kamui with help or not he will be defeated...

What tone of talk bro? I'm being pretty calm and civil, so I don't really know what you're talking about.

And ok, here are some obvious examples of long distance teleporting:

Obito teleporting from the 8 man squad to Sasuke:

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Obito teleporting from baby site to a random place with Kushina, and then to the village:

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Even Minato said Obito moved so far so quickly after taking Kushina

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And there are other examples too if you really want to look for them.

I'm sorry, but until Kakashi becomes an Uchiha, or gets a massive boost of Hashirama DNA implanted, he will never surpass Obito. As I've already told you, the manga has made Obito better at using it than Kakashi with these things. I also do not believe that Kakashi is smarter than Obito.

When they were 13 and younger, yeah Kakashi was way smarter, but ever since Obito was taken in by Madara, Obito has turned into a smart mother****er. He is the one who started the war, the mastermind behind Akatsuki, and so many other things too.

Kakashi's Kamui will never surpass Obito's Kamui.

 

[garas56]

What tone of talk bro? I'm being pretty calm and civil, so I don't really know what you're talking about.

And ok, here are some obvious examples of long distance teleporting:

Obito teleporting from the 8 man squad to Sasuke:

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Obito teleporting from baby site to a random place with Kushina, and then to the village:

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Even Minato said Obito moved so far so quickly after taking Kushina

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And there are other examples too if you really want to look for them.

I'm sorry, but until Kakashi becomes an Uchiha, or gets a massive boost of Hashirama DNA implanted, he will never surpass Obito. As I've already told you, the manga has made Obito better at using it than Kakashi with these things. I also do not believe that Kakashi is smarter than Obito.

When they were 13 and younger, yeah Kakashi was way smarter, but ever since Obito was taken in by Madara, Obito has turned into a smart mother****er. He is the one who started the war, the mastermind behind Akatsuki, and so many other things too.

Kakashi's Kamui will never surpass Obito's Kamui.

Your tone was arrogant
Anyway it's seams U are right about teleportation
if Kamui is that it allows the user to teleport themselves to any location they desire, including the other dimension. When using Kamui to teleport themselves, whatever the user is touching will be warped along with them and the user's chakra becomes untraceable. By his own admission, Obito is capable of finding anyone and teleporting to their location regardless of where they are.
But pousible Kakashi is capable of doing so two Cous it's just Kamuis Ability Obito May be stronger But Kakashi is realy smarter how Many mistakes Obito has did in war episode shows he is dumber

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Kakashi is more inteligent than obito
Kakashis Kamui will and May surpas Obitos if Kakashi has an undiscovered Power of Mangekyou anyway kakashi will kill or will Help to kill obito By his Kamui.

 

[choft]

Your ton was arrogant
Anyvay its seams U are right about teleportation
if Kamui is that it allows the user to teleport themselves to any location they desire, including the other dimension. When using Kamui to teleport themselves, whatever the user is touching will be warped along with them and the user's chakra becomes untraceable. By his own admission, Obito is capable of finding anyone and teleporting to their location regardless of where they are.
But pousible Kakashi is capable of doing so two Cous it's just Kamuis Ability Obito May be stronger But Kakashi is realy smarter how mistakes Obito has did in war episode shows he is dumber

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Kakashi is more inteligent than obito
Kakashis Kamui will and May surpas Obitos if Kakashi has an undiscovered Power of Mangekyou anyvay kakashi will kill or kelp to kill obito.

I don't understand how that scan shows how Kakashi is smarter. To me, Obito is smarter (mastermind of Akatsuki, knew how to fool the world into thinking he was Madara, engineered the war etc.).

I also don't know why you think Kakashi will get an undiscovered Mangekyou power, considering how none of the Uchihas have done this themselves.

Anyways, I'll take my leave here, I don't think this debate will really get anywhere at this point. xD

For me, until Kakashi can show a display of good chakra control, then maybe, but until then, I will never see him surpass Obito.

You have your opinion, I have mine.

 

[Demonic Kitsune]

obitos for the win, you can avoid damage and then suck the person in and escape with them being trapped, kakashi is only able to make people disapear.

 

[Klad]

I've noticed that Kakashi get tired when he use Kamui.
I think Obito's better .

 

[shelke]

Obito is better by several miles. Can't believe people actually think Kakashi and Obito are even comparable in this department.

 

[JDuzumaki92]

Kakashi can't utilize Kamui's full potential because he doesn't have Uchiha DNA.

 

[Wood Release]

Intangibility, Nuff said