[Discussion] Kakashi's Kamui is only as fast as Obito's Kamui.

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If Kakashi decides to kamui snipe someone, the time it takes to wrap is just as fast as the time it takes for Obito to warp himself.

Why?

Because Obito's Kamui was exactly doubled in speed in the last chapter when Kakashi and Obito used it on the same spot(Obito)
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Divide it by 2, and we get Kakashi's sniping speed.

What does this mean? Even though Kakashi's sniping speed is so fast that it can even rip off the Mazou's arm while it is being summoned away, it still is too slow for the Orbs or the likes of Gated Guy.
 
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no Mate there has been examples of Obito doing his fast. Unlike kakashi's with the exception of the one time kakashi did a sort of fast kamui it was a part of plan so he knew where the rasengan was going to be. kakashi cannot snipe anyone it takes to long the two times he has tried to snipe anything it was stopped
 
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senju bean...senju bean....XD

that kamuis speed was doubled, that was just a figure of speech by madara, as in you increased your speed...

its not as if madara was standing there with a stopwatch and a calculator to deduce the exact speed.!!

maybe they might have same speed I wouldn't know, but using such a thing for such deduction, lol I don't think so...

:win:

you have to do better than that to convience me...:sweat:
 

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senju bean...senju bean....XD

that kamuis speed was doubled, that was just a figure of speech by madara, as in you increased your speed...

its not as if madara was standing there with a stopwatch and a calculator to deduce the exact speed.!!

maybe they might have same speed I wouldn't know, but using such a thing for such deduction, lol I don't think so...

:win:

you have to do better than that to convience me...:sweat:

Madara has SM and is nearly a perfect Juubi Jin.

His perceptive powers are even more precise than a super computer.

I'm sure his mind can automatically calculate the speed without even thinking about it.
 

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i agree with you and still think obito's faster at the same time..but i understand what your saying...scanlations troll sometime cant wait to have the book in my real hands lol
 

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I think Kakashi's Kamui speed works like this :
Kamui creates a small hole and if you are moving towards the hole you will be sucked in faster than if you are moving away from the hole.

This example works with how Kakashi Kamui'd Deidara's arm, the missile towards Choji, Sasuke's Arrows, Naruto and Eighttails, The Juubi's arm, and Pein's nail bullet. The Kamui hole starts wrapping and sucking you in , but if you're moving away from it the harder it will be.

Kakashi created a small kamui hole and Sasuke's Susano'o Arrows & Pein's nail bullet all were going straight towards Kakashi's face which is where the Kamui hole was opened up at. In other words, both arrows and the nail were moving into the kamui hole which made it seem like Kamui was extremely fast because of how fast the nail & arrows were going then getting warped.

Similar thing with the Missile going towards Choji in the Pein arc and the Eighttails and Naruto. All those times Kakashi knew where they were headed and timed a hole for where they would be . In the missile's case... Choji was the target and Kakashi knew that so he created a hole behind Choji and in front of the missle (in between Choji & missile) and the missile flew right into the kamui hole.

In the case of the Juubi's arm. Kakashi was aiming at the Juubi's face and Madara began summoning it away. The Kamui missed the face and instead warped the arm. Why did this happen? Well the Juubi's face was located above the arm (or closer to Madara) while Madara was summoning it away, the juubi was being pulled closer to Madara's s/t summoning warp and moving towards the left sort of. The head had moved to the left and the arm was moving to where the head was .. and by that time the kamui had opened up where the head was because it was the initial target, the arm moved into the kamui and was ripped off. (assuming)
Summons do have some traveling paths as you can see when Gamabunta is summoned and drops from the sky on top of the Kyuubi.

In Deidara's situation, although it was our first time seeing Kakashi use Kamui, he used it 3 times before it finally warped Deidara's arm off. Deidara was moving away from the Kamui ... had he been moving towards it , it might've been warped quicker.. maybe.
 

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senju bean...senju bean....XD

that kamuis speed was doubled, that was just a figure of speech by madara, as in you increased your speed...

its not as if madara was standing there with a stopwatch and a calculator to deduce the exact speed.!!

maybe they might have same speed I wouldn't know, but using such a thing for such deduction, lol I don't think so...

:win:

you have to do better than that to convience me...:sweat:

I have to concur with this. Madara would have to be a computer to be that accurate.
 

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I have to concur with this. Madara would have to be a computer to be that accurate.


You don't think a god is fast as a computer?

The Juubi is a god.

Madara is its Jin.
 

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Kakashi isn't as fast as Obito's kumai no doubt.

Kakashi's aid doubled Obito's speed because when double mangekyo comes together, it utilizes the full power.

Separated....you'll find a significant difference.
 
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