kakashi's intelligence=itachi intelligence

[ReLax -]

right and the topic is itachi and kakashi, not nagato.

I think I made an obvious point there that those instances doesn't displays once intelligence.

Right, but it went to plot eventually. Kakashi was also lucky to get Obito eye if you want to go that way.

itachi wont be able to release edo if it wasn't for his luck with the kotoamatsukami.

Itachi was intelligent enough to use Koto on himself and stop Edo/Kabuto, which was his goal at the time.

itachi would have been dead long ago if tobi didn't help him kill his clan.

Itachi was intelligent enough to approach Tobi for assistance to aid him take out Uchiha and keep him away from Konoha/Sasuke at least for as long as he was alive.

itachi would have been dead for the second time if it wasn't for naruto and bee's help.

Itachi was intelligent enough to use the resource (Naruto/Bee) he had around him to stop Nagato/Kabuto.

Nevertheless your points are easily countered.

 

[LegendaryAce]

itachi>kakashi in intelligence

 

[LegendaryAce]

Definitely Itachi and Minato at best. Shikamaru comes 3rd, because he has done lots of plans that has successfully work, except his first mission as a chunin to bring Sasuke back.

shikamaru's dad man shikamaru's dad

sorry for double post D:

 

[ReLax -]

wrong. he didn't used the crow to release himself. you make it sound like he has the WILL to do it. it was just pure luck and is not in anyway associated with his intelligence

The manga proves otherwiseU_U

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He knew his crow with Shisui eye was coming out of Naruto. "Good it came out..." Seemed planned to me.

 

[Fearmonger]

They both have a 5 in intellegence.

 

[xX Ycutie Xx]

Kakashi is smarter than him.He countered all his ninjutsu moves in part 1 and part 2.

kunai stab countered by a clone
Shuriken trick+water attack countered by suiton suije heki.
then he noticed the explosive clone and save kurenai.
part 2 his intel outmatch itachi when Kakashi's clone countered Itachi's genjutsu and caught him with a clone.

Kakashi was always smarter than him.

That doesn't really show he is more intelligent because Itachi was letting him win. Kakashi himself stated that Itachi could have easily killed him if he wanted to.
Nevertheless Kakashi is still brilliant for figuring out tobi's jutsu, but Itachi is still superior in intelligence.

 

[Minator93]

Kakashi is smarter U_U

 

[enditallsin]

Kakashi intelligence>itachis intelligence, because itachis intelligence is really nothing more than common sense,besides when itachi was alive like kakashi is now..i don't recall him being in to many situations like the one kakashi,gai,bee,and naruto are in right now...wait a sec...i don't recall itachi EVER being in any situations like the one kakashi,gai,bee,and naruto are in right now when he when he was living or any big situations at all for that fact,so he couldn't have really tested his intelligence all that much.

 

[Zato]

I'm pretty sure Itachi is smarter then Kakashi. Itachi knows things that are not even explained. Just look at Itachi's actions when he fought Nagato(some how he knew that all their eye sights were linked together and within seconds he figured out how to stop Chibaku Tensei.) and how he all of a sudden knew about all this stuff when fighting Kabuto. What Kakashi did in this recent chapter was a hypothesis, meaning he wasn't even sure it would work. He was just guessing because he never seen Naruto's attack actually hit Tobi's mask so he figured it had to come from something else in which the only explanation would be the Kunai he Kamui'd away. But, haters will be haters and fanboys will be...fanboys.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Only Shikaku and Shikmaru in this manga matches Kakashi in tactical intelligence. His feats include outsmarting Nagato, Tobi and Itachi in battle, and his insight has been complimented more times then is worth counting.

Itachi overall may be smarter, but when it comes to tactics, Kakashi is right along the Nara "duo" as the best.

 

[Icelerate]

Remember how Kakashi said that the Rennigan was just a mutation and nothing more. Also Kakashi said that the sharingan mutated from the Byakugan and not from the Rennigan. This shows us that Kakashi doesn't know much about his own sharingan. Itachi, on the other hand, knows a lot about the Uchiha's history.

Also even though Kakashi has finally figured out that Tobi teleports to the same dimension that Kakashi sends objects to, I had figured this out a long time ago which would make me much smarter than Kakashi.

Both are very smart but in part 1 Kakashi only had a 4.5 intelligence.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

wrong. he didn't used the crow to release himself. you make it sound like he has the WILL to do it. it was just pure luck and is not in anyway associated with his intelligence



right and the topic is itachi and kakashi, not nagato.

I think I made an obvious point there that those instances doesn't displays once intelligence.

Did i say it was pure will? He still use the crow to override the control. Stop trying to flame me it won't work.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Remember how Kakashi said that the Rennigan was just a mutation and nothing more. Also Kakashi said that the sharingan mutated from the Byakugan and not from the Rennigan. This shows us that Kakashi doesn't know much about his own sharingan. Itachi, on the other hand, knows a lot about the Uchiha's history.

Also even though Kakashi has finally figured out that Tobi teleports to the same dimension that Kakashi sends objects to, I had figured this out a long time ago which would make me much smarter than Kakashi.

Both are very smart but in part 1 Kakashi only had a 4.5 intelligence.

This is why intelligence is far too broad of a term to classify people. It has to be broken down to tactical and, for lack of better words "book smarts".

As examples:

Hiruzen and Orochimaru are god-like in book smarts.

Kakashi and the Nara father/son duo are god-like in tactical intelligence.

Also, how exactly was Kakashi supposed to figure out, before these last two chapters, that his kamui warps things to the same dimension that Tobi can go to? This has been the only chance he's ever had to figure that out. Using that against him makes no sense at all..

 

[Hmongkage916]

Itachi >>>> Kakashi
every single way and angles u can even thing off.
even shikamaru=kakashi as intl

Diff is that kakashi doesnt have the resource of power to make it happen like itachi does.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Itachi will always be smarter than Kakashi. I bet if Guy had kamui if would've figured it out to

Wow, Champ. I would want to insert Kamui on Guy to see if he could figure it out in the same moment Kakashi did.

 

[Icelerate]

This is why intelligence is far too broad of a term to classify people. It has to be broken down to tactical and, for lack of better words "book smarts".

As examples:

Hiruzen and Orochimaru are god-like in book smarts.

Kakashi and the Nara father/son duo are god-like in tactical intelligence.

Also, how exactly was Kakashi supposed to figure out, before these last two chapters, that his kamui warps things to the same dimension that Tobi can go to? This has been the only chance he's ever had to figure that out. Using that against him makes no sense at all..

I was just joking but they are almost equal. Itachi has an overall edge imo because he has shown intelligence other than pure strategy which Kakashi has mostly done. Also it seems Shikaku and maybe Shikamaru are slightly above Kakashi in that category also. But just to let you know, I knew Kakashi's kamui lead to Tobi's dimension a long time ago from the clues that Kishi gave us. For exmaple, Deidara lost his arm to kamui but Tobi somehow got it back. Also Tobi says during the kage summit arc that Kakashi's kamui is useless against him. I figured it was due to Tobi's ability to warp between the two dimensions. Also the previous chapter greatly hinted this as well when Gedo Mazo warping was stopped by Tobi.

 

[EliteKakashi]

I was just joking but they are almost equal. Itachi has an overall edge imo because he has shown intelligence other than pure strategy which Kakashi has mostly done. Also it seems Shikaku and maybe Shikamaru are slightly above Kakashi in that category also. But just to let you know, I knew Kakashi's kamui lead to Tobi's dimension a long time ago from the clues that Kishi gave us. For exmaple, Deidara lost his arm to kamui but Tobi somehow got it back. Also Tobi says during the kage summit arc that Kakashi's kamui is useless against him. I figured it was due to Tobi's ability to warp between the two dimensions. Also the previous chapter greatly hinted this as well when Gedo Mazo warping was stopped by Tobi.

Kakashi had no clue about Deidara's arm, so I'm not sure how that plays in.

Kakashi could have very easily thought that kamui didn't work on Tobi for the simple fact that when he's intangible, he can't be warped. You say you figured it out based on hints Kishi gave you, but that doesn't mean Kakashi was given any of those hints.

Kakashi began to figure out this in the last chapter. Basing simply on what Kakashi KNEW up to that point, I don't see how it'd be expected for him to figure it out prior to this fight.

And Shikaka/Shikamaru may very well be smarter in tactics, but Kakashi has them matched, if not beaten in feats. But that plays in to him being one of the "major" characters of the series.

 

[Mugen Tsukyomi]

no way,look how long it took kakashi to figure it out itachi would have figured it out way faster, kakashi's level is probably on minato's level now but not on itachi.

 

[EliteKakashi]

no way,look how long it took kakashi to figure it out itachi would have figured it out way faster, kakashi's level is probably on minato's level now but not on itachi.

Itachi wouldn't have been able to figure out how to hit Tobi.

Want to know why?

Because it'd be impossible for him to. It requires kamui.

 

[Bogard]

I knew Kakashi's kamui lead to Tobi's dimension a long time ago from the clues that Kishi gave us. For exmaple, Deidara lost his arm to kamui but Tobi somehow got it back.

Deidaras arm didn't went into Kamuis dimension. The dimension was separating his body with his arm and it was just cut and smh fell on the ground at that time