Kakashis chakra(explanation)

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Like you can notice in these 3databooks, you could see that Kakashis chakra didn't changed during the skip time:
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But if we compare his fights in part1 with his fights in part2(even at the beginning), you will notice that he could use much more jutsus, he could use Sharingan much more longer than it used to be. I'll just take one example in part1 and the second in part2 to show that for those who didn't noticed
Kakashi vs Zabuza(first fight part1). Sharingan activated, he used:

  • - Water copy
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  • - Water Dragon Blast
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  • - Genjutsu
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  • - Water explosion
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And his body could not support the strain caused by the sharingan after that
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Kakashi vs Kakuzu(part2). Sharingan activated, he used:

  • - One Raikiri
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  • - Another one here
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  • - 2Raikiris here again
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  • - Suiton Water Fall
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  • - Another Raikiri
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Notice that in part1, he said he would use all his chakra if he were to use But now, he used 6Raikiris and one Suiton jutsu, and even said he could still use kamui(an overtaxing jutsu) without dying at that moment(ending at the hospital though). That shows the number of jutsus he could use increased a lot during the skip time.

So i've explained you how he could use much more jutsus than in part1. Now you would probably ask how is it possible when we saw that his chakra didn't change at all in different databooks? It's simple. He trained his chakra in order to be able to use more jutsus with a small quantity of chakra. How i know that? Well, databook explains it when it talks about Kamui:
Databook3 said:
Authority of the Gods* (神威, Kamui)
Ninjutsu, Kekkei Genkai, No rank, Offensive, Defensive, All ranges
User: Hatake Kakashi

Changing the dimension in one's field of vision.
A lavish, unparalleled dimensional doujutsu!!

Kakashi's original doujutsu, released from the "Mangekyou Sharingan". It allows one to transfer anything to another dimension. If one spends a lot of time and trains one's chakra over and over again, this technique can be invoked. The target is enveloped with a barrier space, and the user concentrates their mind to what they gaze at... The target can struggle helplessly, but against this technique no defence is possible. No matter what, the space will distort and draw the target in.
"If someone spends a lot of time and trains one's chakra over and over again, .." What does that mean? It means that Kakashi obviously trained his chakra a lot, and it's the reason why he could use more jutsus with less chakra cost

If you really look carefully at Kakashis fights, you will notice that Sharingan doesn't take him a lot chakra than before. He can maintain it very long if he wants now in the contrary of before.

In part1 against Zabuza, he only fought for about 10minutes, but he already needed a rest, exhausted as hell. But notice that during the bell test in the beginning of part2, Kakashi was able to maintain Sharingan during (They had until sunrise tomorrow). The bell test begin and it's already night . So for those who think it's impossible for him to fight all this time with Sharingan activated are wrong, cuz they have forgotten to read a great part of this manga

What took a lot of him what his (kamui), so as long as he didn't use that he was fine. So the fact you see him able to fight that long during the war isn't plot since i don't think he used Kamui against the 7swordsmen

Now i'm not sayin that Sharingan or other jutsus can't take him chakra, just saying it takes him less chakra than before.

And the same goes for his Mangekyou sharingan technique. People are surprised he can use it more often, but it's the same logic like with the Sharingan. Against Deidara, he said himself that he could not control it well, and that happened since a long time ago, so it would be stupid if Kakashi wasn't able to have better control currently when we are hardly approaching the end of the manga. He simply managed to control it more probably by training his chakra even more(like stated in databook). It's not his chakra that increased, it's the control of his chakra that increased, and it's why he could use Kamui more, it's why he could use more jutsus
 

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Nice thread... but it doesn't explain how he was able to go for hours on end, and spam Kamui within seconds of using it previously (2 or 3 times in succession). >_>
 

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Yeah of course, he's not gonna keep using such a massive chakra stealing Jutsu like Kamui without coming up with a way to shorten it, Kakashi's a strategist he knows what he's doing.
 

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+plot no jutsu
though his stanima should have increased over the years
 

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Hmm ... good analysis you deserved my +rep :D
 

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Nice thread... but it doesn't explain how he was able to go for hours on end, and spam Kamui within seconds of using it previously (2 or 3 times in succession). >_>
I explained it, he simply trained hard on his chakra :D
Hmm ... good analysis you deserved my +rep :D
Thanks :)
 

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Like you can notice in these 3databooks, you could see that Kakashis chakra didn't changed during the skip time:
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But if we compare his fights in part1 with his fights in part2(even at the beginning), you will notice that he could use much more jutsus, he could use Sharingan much more longer than it used to be. I'll just take one example in part1 and the second in part2 to show that for those who didn't noticed
Kakashi vs Zabuza(first fight part1). Sharingan activated, he used:

  • - Water copy
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  • - Water Dragon Blast
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  • - Genjutsu
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  • - Water explosion
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And his body could not support the strain caused by the sharingan after that
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Kakashi vs Kakuzu(part2). Sharingan activated, he used:

  • - One Raikiri
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  • - Another one here
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  • - 2Raikiris here again
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  • - Suiton Water Fall
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  • - Another Raikiri
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  • - Another one
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Notice that in part1, he said he would use all his chakra if he were to use But now, he used 6Raikiris and one Suiton jutsu, and even said he could still use kamui(an overtaxing jutsu) without dying at that moment(ending at the hospital though). That shows the number of jutsus he could use increased a lot during the skip time.

So i've explained you how he could use much more jutsus than in part1. Now you would probably ask how is it possible when we saw that his chakra didn't change at all in different databooks? It's simple. He trained his chakra in order to be able to use more jutsus with a small quantity of chakra. How i know that? Well, databook explains it when it talks about Kamui:

"If someone spends a lot of time and trains one's chakra over and over again, .." What does that mean? It means that Kakashi obviously trained his chakra a lot, and it's the reason why he could use more jutsus with less chakra cost

If you really look carefully at Kakashis fights, you will notice that Sharingan doesn't take him a lot chakra than before. He can maintain it very long if he wants now in the contrary of before.

In part1 against Zabuza, he only fought for about 10minutes, but he already needed a rest, exhausted as hell. But notice that during the bell test in the beginning of part2, Kakashi was able to maintain Sharingan during (They had until sunrise tomorrow). The bell test begin and it's already night . So for those who think it's impossible for him to fight all this time with Sharingan activated are wrong, cuz they have forgotten to read a great part of this manga

What took a lot of him what his (kamui), so as long as he didn't use that he was fine. So the fact you see him able to fight that long during the war isn't plot since i don't think he used Kamui against the 7swordsmen

Now i'm not sayin that Sharingan or other jutsus can't take him chakra, just saying it takes him less chakra than before.

And the same goes for his Mangekyou sharingan technique. People are surprised he can use it more often, but it's the same logic like with the Sharingan. Against Deidara, he said himself that he could not control it well, and that happened since a long time ago, so it would be stupid if Kakashi wasn't able to have better control currently when we are hardly approaching the end of the manga. He simply managed to control it more probably by training his chakra even more(like stated in databook). It's not his chakra that increased, it's the control of his chakra that increased, and it's why he could use Kamui more, it's why he could use more jutsus



I agree kakashi explained this in the beginning if the series while noting sakura had the greatest control of her chakra sasuke came in second and naruto came in last with the poorest control of his chakra exerted more then he needed.It wouldn't make sense if kakashi did not learn to utilize his chakra more proficiently since he has low chakra reserves to begin with.
 

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Never doubted chakra control and this is what you have basically said. However chakra control can only take you so far
 

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Never doubted chakra control and this is what you have basically said. However chakra control can only take you so far
Maybe but remember that Sasuke also has 3.5 in stamina, but look how he uses his MS techniques. Sometimes you can think that he even has a Bijuu in his body xd
 

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Maybe but remember that Sasuke also has 3.5 in stamina, but look how he uses his MS techniques. Sometimes you can think that he even has a Bijuu in his body xd

Sasuke is a teenager it's understandable for him to make that leap. Kakashi on the other hand was not he was a mature adult who was very experienced, that's why it doesn't make sense.
 
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Nice thread... but it doesn't explain how he was able to go for hours on end, and spam Kamui within seconds of using it previously (2 or 3 times in succession). >_>

remember... During the academy grad test when naruto was asked to do an ordinary clone did u see the amount of chakra he used, yet he cldn't get the tech completely... But he got it when fighting neji with relatively less chakra... The result of training... Same goes for kakashi... He can now use less chakra to do techs compared to before that includes kamui...
 

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What Kakashi used during this war?

day 1 afternoon

raikiri

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raikiri

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day 1 night

Kakashi still fight sharingan activate

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day 2

Kakashi kill Kisame's master with lighting sword

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Raikiri + tiajutsu vs jins v2


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kage bunshin

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raiden

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Had nenough chakra to use kamui but didn't need to

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Untill there he fought for more than 1 day

-used sharingan non stop
-3 raikiri
-1 kage bunshin which split divide chakra by 2
-1 raiden
-and had enough chakra to use kamui



Now there are inside kyuubi's chakra, it's possible that kyubi healed them with his chakra to restore their chakra
.When Naruto is hurt we saw how fast kyubi's chakra healed him.
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they are still taking a break inside kyubi's chakra

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Kakashi and Gai out of kyuubi's chakra

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Now Kakashi and Gai are full chakra it's like a new fight .

Kakashi use raiden

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Kage bunshin so -50% chakra

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Despite 50% left he still can spam kamui


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kunaii raikiri

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kamui

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kamui

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kamui again

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And at this state Kakashi is almost out of chakra.


To conclude this, it doesn't matter what's happened , the most important to know is that now Kakashi at full of his chakra can use , 1 kage bunshin wich split chakra 2 in 2 , raikiri ,raiden and 4 kamui.
 
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@narutokage99: Good explanation, but i really doubt that Kyubi gave him chakra. If it was the case, Kishi would have mention it even once during their fight. If it's that easy, then a smart guy like Kakashi would have notice it and would have told to Naruto to enter BM again so that they recover now(they are tired right now), which is not obviously the case
 

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@narutokage99: Good explanation, but i really doubt that Kyubi gave him chakra. If it was the case, Kishi would have mention it even once during their fight. If it's that easy, then a smart guy like Kakashi would have notice it and would have told to Naruto to enter BM again so that they recover now(they are tired right now), which is not obviously the case
I'm agree with all you said, of course he can use kamui moer than before but i'm confused with these 2 kage bunshin. 2 kage bunshin is a lot , even after using kage bunshin he was still able to use kamui. Notice Kage bunshin take more chakra than kamui.

I remember him saying after his 1st kage bunshin that he's worried of his chakra.


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Hard to believe that he had still too much chakra, i believe kyubi's chakra healed Gai and Kakashi, we can see the bubbles while they are inside.



So since the beginning of the war Kakashi used

3 Raikiri
1 Kunai raikiri
1 Zabuza sword raikiri
2 Raiden
2 Kage bunshin
4 Kamui

Maybe kishi gave him a power up but i believe that after the 5 TBB he gained back his chakra and it was like a new fight for him and Gai.

It doesn't matter if his chakra has been restored or not, the most important as i said he can use 4 kamui with 50% of his chakra (after kage bunshin) ,raikiri with kunai and raiden.It's still a power great up imo.
 
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Like you can notice in these 3databooks, you could see that Kakashis chakra didn't changed during the skip time:
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But if we compare his fights in part1 with his fights in part2(even at the beginning), you will notice that he could use much more jutsus, he could use Sharingan much more longer than it used to be. I'll just take one example in part1 and the second in part2 to show that for those who didn't noticed
Kakashi vs Zabuza(first fight part1). Sharingan activated, he used:

  • - Water copy
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  • - Water Dragon Blast
    You must be registered for see images
  • - Genjutsu
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  • - Water explosion
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And his body could not support the strain caused by the sharingan after that
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Kakashi vs Kakuzu(part2). Sharingan activated, he used:

  • - One Raikiri
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  • - Another one here
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  • - 2Raikiris here again
    You must be registered for see images
  • - Suiton Water Fall
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  • - Another Raikiri
    You must be registered for see images
  • - Another one
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Notice that in part1, he said he would use all his chakra if he were to use But now, he used 6Raikiris and one Suiton jutsu, and even said he could still use kamui(an overtaxing jutsu) without dying at that moment(ending at the hospital though). That shows the number of jutsus he could use increased a lot during the skip time.

So i've explained you how he could use much more jutsus than in part1. Now you would probably ask how is it possible when we saw that his chakra didn't change at all in different databooks? It's simple. He trained his chakra in order to be able to use more jutsus with a small quantity of chakra. How i know that? Well, databook explains it when it talks about Kamui:

"If someone spends a lot of time and trains one's chakra over and over again, .." What does that mean? It means that Kakashi obviously trained his chakra a lot, and it's the reason why he could use more jutsus with less chakra cost

If you really look carefully at Kakashis fights, you will notice that Sharingan doesn't take him a lot chakra than before. He can maintain it very long if he wants now in the contrary of before.

In part1 against Zabuza, he only fought for about 10minutes, but he already needed a rest, exhausted as hell. But notice that during the bell test in the beginning of part2, Kakashi was able to maintain Sharingan during (They had until sunrise tomorrow). The bell test begin and it's already night . So for those who think it's impossible for him to fight all this time with Sharingan activated are wrong, cuz they have forgotten to read a great part of this manga

What took a lot of him what his (kamui), so as long as he didn't use that he was fine. So the fact you see him able to fight that long during the war isn't plot since i don't think he used Kamui against the 7swordsmen

Now i'm not sayin that Sharingan or other jutsus can't take him chakra, just saying it takes him less chakra than before.

And the same goes for his Mangekyou sharingan technique. People are surprised he can use it more often, but it's the same logic like with the Sharingan. Against Deidara, he said himself that he could not control it well, and that happened since a long time ago, so it would be stupid if Kakashi wasn't able to have better control currently when we are hardly approaching the end of the manga. He simply managed to control it more probably by training his chakra even more(like stated in databook). It's not his chakra that increased, it's the control of his chakra that increased, and it's why he could use Kamui more, it's why he could use more jutsus

Nice thread +rep :ice:
 

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This makes since using facts from kishi. Nice work!
 
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