[Theory] Kakashi with new power-up and Guy goes 8-Gates

[Minato x]

Okay so, Kakashi was getting serious on this chapter and I think we might see his real trump card.
And Guy is definetely going 8-Gates and showing us its power.


I think that Kakashi's MS is pretty much like EMS. I shall explain.

We've seen Kakashi use Kamui and different jutsu with his MS often, he's been using it many times, it also powers him up, but we haven't seen signs of damaged vision (as happened with Itachi and Sasuke, which is normal).

I think that a transplanted Sharingan / MS has both its pros and cons.

Let's start with cons :

• Huge Chakra Drain
• Can't be used for a long time
• Needs good training to use it

^ those are facts.

But the advantage of a transplanted Sharingan / MS is (according to me) :

* DOES NOT LOSE ITS LIGHT. Yes, you heard me, since we have not seen any signs of damaged view and lost of light by Kakashi, a transplanted Sharingan would then never lose its light. Everything must have few disadvantages and advantages.

So, Kakashi is at no risk of losing his light, but he's at risk of getting his whole chakra drained which results to daeth.
I think there's a new jutsu Kakashi developed, or it's a normal MS jutsu other people could not foresee (other people : Uchihas).

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I have more to explain.

As you've seen, when Guy goes 6 and 7 Gates, he has jutsu named strangely, like Daytime / Afternoon Tiger, Morning Peacock.

What's left now is Midnight. And from a source I've heard, these were connected to Japanese mythology and the next character / animal was Dragon ; therefore Guy's new Jutsu will be most likely named Midnight Dragon.

 

[Sexy Jutsu]

Okay so, Kakashi was getting serious on this chapter and I think we might see his real trump card.
And Guy is definetely going 8-Gates and showing us its power.


I think that Kakashi's MS is pretty much like EMS. I shall explain.

We've seen Kakashi use Kamui and different jutsu with his MS often, he's been using it many times, it also powers him up, but we haven't seen signs of damaged vision (as happened with Itachi and Sasuke, which is normal).

I think that a transplanted Sharingan / MS has both its pros and cons.

Let's start with cons :

• Huge Chakra Drain
• Can't be used for a long time
• Needs good training to use it

^ those are facts.

But the advantage of a transplanted Sharingan / MS is (according to me) :

* DOES NOT LOSE ITS LIGHT. Yes, you heard me, since we have not seen any signs of damaged view and lost of light by Kakashi, a transplanted Sharingan would then never lose its light. Everything must have few disadvantages and advantages.

So, Kakashi is at no risk of losing his light, but he's at risk of getting his whole chakra drained which results to daeth.
I think there's a new jutsu Kakashi developed, or it's a normal MS jutsu other people could not foresee (other people : Uchihas).

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I have more to explain.

As you've seen, when Guy goes 6 and 7 Gates, he has jutsu named strangely, like Daytime / Afternoon Tiger, Morning Peacock.

What's left now is Midnight. And from a source I've heard, these were connected to Japanese mythology and the next character / animal was Dragon ; therefore Guy's new Jutsu will be most likely named Midnight Dragon.

IMO.. only reason Kakashi hasn't lost his sight is because he doesn't spam MS techniques like a total douche.... Hmmm... not hard to guess who I'm talking about lol.

And unless they are in a really DIRE situation, why would Guy use 8 gates? He would die as a result... but maybe that's one death that we'll finally get to see in this so called "WAR" haha.

 

[andrets]

very well said... fufufu!!!! + rep 4 u!

 

[amaterasuboy11]

good theory
+rep

 

[SilverSlick]

Midnight Dragon sounds tight as ****. He should save that for Madara though since Tobi could just go intangible for 5 minutes. I'm assuming that's how long Guy will be able to sustain 8th gate. Lol, troll logic.

 

[Minato x]

IMO.. only reason Kakashi hasn't lost his sight is because he doesn't spam MS techniques like a total douche.... Hmmm... not hard to guess who I'm talking about lol.

And unless they are in a really DIRE situation, why would Guy use 8 gates? He would die as a result... but maybe that's one death that we'll finally get to see in this so called "WAR" haha.

Kakashi has used Kamui quite many times. MS also gives him power ups, like using Raikiri more times, he's used his MS quite many times for a non-Uchiha.

Well Guy would sacrifice himself for the world and he would go 8 Gates, but he might also get saved by some PnJ whatsoever. (Kishi Style, ya know).

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Thanks to anyone who repped (such an active forum)

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Midnight Dragon sounds tight as ****. He should save that for Madara though since Tobi could just go intangible for 5 minutes. I'm assuming that's how long Guy will be able to sustain 8th gate. Lol, troll logic.

He will use the 8 Gates new Jutsu to attack the Gedo Mazo or distract Tobi so Naruto and B can use Bijuu Dama on the Gedo Mazo.


Kakashi and Guy distract Tobi.
Naruto and B fight the Gedo Mazo / Juubi (before it's completely revived)

 

[NOemotions]

Okay so, Kakashi was getting serious on this chapter and I think we might see his real trump card.
And Guy is definetely going 8-Gates and showing us its power.


I think that Kakashi's MS is pretty much like EMS. I shall explain.

We've seen Kakashi use Kamui and different jutsu with his MS often, he's been using it many times, it also powers him up, but we haven't seen signs of damaged vision (as happened with Itachi and Sasuke, which is normal).

I think that a transplanted Sharingan / MS has both its pros and cons.

Let's start with cons :

• Huge Chakra Drain
• Can't be used for a long time
• Needs good training to use it

^ those are facts.

But the advantage of a transplanted Sharingan / MS is (according to me) :

* DOES NOT LOSE ITS LIGHT. Yes, you heard me, since we have not seen any signs of damaged view and lost of light by Kakashi, a transplanted Sharingan would then never lose its light. Everything must have few disadvantages and advantages.

So, Kakashi is at no risk of losing his light, but he's at risk of getting his whole chakra drained which results to daeth.
I think there's a new jutsu Kakashi developed, or it's a normal MS jutsu other people could not foresee (other people : Uchihas).

--

I have more to explain.

As you've seen, when Guy goes 6 and 7 Gates, he has jutsu named strangely, like Daytime / Afternoon Tiger, Morning Peacock.

What's left now is Midnight. And from a source I've heard, these were connected to Japanese mythology and the next character / animal was Dragon ; therefore Guy's new Jutsu will be most likely named Midnight Dragon.

Much likely. rep+

 

[p0002q]

1) Welcome
2) Nice posts - it is a breath of fresh air to see respectable threads with good write ups and insight.

I like the name midnight dragon - would expect nothing less from Guy.

The Kakashi thing i've thought about off an on over the years. He's displayed more MS use than they have for Itachi and Sasuke. (especially in the original series). And like you said, there is absolutely no signs of light loss with his eye.
I agree.

 

[Naruto cool]

maybe

 

[MangekyouJ]

Okay so, Kakashi was getting serious on this chapter and I think we might see his real trump card.
And Guy is definetely going 8-Gates and showing us its power.


I think that Kakashi's MS is pretty much like EMS. I shall explain.

We've seen Kakashi use Kamui and different jutsu with his MS often, he's been using it many times, it also powers him up, but we haven't seen signs of damaged vision (as happened with Itachi and Sasuke, which is normal).

I think that a transplanted Sharingan / MS has both its pros and cons.

Let's start with cons :

• Huge Chakra Drain
• Can't be used for a long time
• Needs good training to use it

^ those are facts.

But the advantage of a transplanted Sharingan / MS is (according to me) :

* DOES NOT LOSE ITS LIGHT. Yes, you heard me, since we have not seen any signs of damaged view and lost of light by Kakashi, a transplanted Sharingan would then never lose its light. Everything must have few disadvantages and advantages.

So, Kakashi is at no risk of losing his light, but he's at risk of getting his whole chakra drained which results to daeth.
I think there's a new jutsu Kakashi developed, or it's a normal MS jutsu other people could not foresee (other people : Uchihas).

--

I have more to explain.

As you've seen, when Guy goes 6 and 7 Gates, he has jutsu named strangely, like Daytime / Afternoon Tiger, Morning Peacock.

What's left now is Midnight. And from a source I've heard, these were connected to Japanese mythology and the next character / animal was Dragon ; therefore Guy's new Jutsu will be most likely named Midnight Dragon.

Wow....Midnight Dragon.....Wouldn't that be a fitting final jutsu to use to that will result in SOMEONE'S death...lol

 

[Wysten]

One thing you are forgetting about Kakashi, and that was the time he confronted Itachi about his loss of eyesight. How would he know this if he wasn't at least experiencing it in one eye?

Otherwise cool theory.

 

[Deidera]

First of all Kakashi has used Kamui only 4 times and second, he does lose his sight otherwise he wouldn't have said this to Itachi

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[Minato x]

1) Welcome
2) Nice posts - it is a breath of fresh air to see respectable threads with good write ups and insight.

I like the name midnight dragon - would expect nothing less from Guy.

The Kakashi thing i've thought about off an on over the years. He's displayed more MS use than they have for Itachi and Sasuke. (especially in the original series). And like you said, there is absolutely no signs of light loss with his eye.
I agree.

Thank you and I'm glad you agree

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Wow....Midnight Dragon.....Wouldn't that be a fitting final jutsu to use to that will result in SOMEONE'S death...lol

The jutsu wouldn't result to death, but when the 8th Gate 'expires' then you die from loss of chakra.

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One thing you are forgetting about Kakashi, and that was the time he confronted Itachi about his loss of eyesight. How would he know this if he wasn't at least experiencing it in one eye?

Otherwise cool theory.

Kakashi would experience a loss of eye sight only in his left eye, that's where the Sharingan is. He doesn't have 2 Sharingans, only one and if he would experience loss of eyesight, it would be only one and that the Sharingan eye.

 

[p0002q]

Deidera does raise a good point - and I was trip'n and thinking about Shar use not his MS power

But it is a great point about Kakashi saying that - well played

 

[Minato x]

First of all Kakashi has used Kamui only 4 times and second, he does lose his sight otherwise he wouldn't have said this to Itachi

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But he hasn't shown any signs. Itachi would grab his eye because it hurted too much. Same with Sasuke, it would switch back to his normal eye.

For a Shinobi like Kakashi that doesn't have a big chakra pool, using Kamui 4 times is dangerous and with his MS he can use Raikiri more times which would also affect his eye, considering he used his MS and Sharingan many times, he still hasn't shown signs.

It's true Kakashi hasn't used it as much as Itachi and Sasuke, but he's a non-Uchiha.

Kakashi would never keep the Sharingan without knowing something about it, he did some research, maybe even entered the Naraka Shrine after the Uchiha got massacred, who knows.

 

[Deidera]

I think that when he uses 2 successive times in the same battle without a rest he'll die as shown vs Tendo Pain.
I'd say that his eyesight deteriorated just a little bit ,that how he noticed and asked Itachi,I don't think he knows where the shrine is ,he only believed that the Rikudo sennin was a myth and that the rennigan was a mutation until Tobi had said it was ,so I don't see why he'd read or know where the Naka shrine is before Tobi had actually told him about it.

 

[Minato x]

He could've read the Naraka Shrine Tablet and as I said, Kakashi wouldn't let details like that escape from him, if he has a tool or a jutsu, he knows how to use it and nearly everything about it.

 

[Wysten]

But he has shown great pain. Unlike Itachi, he collapsed after two uses of it and was completely unable to move for a considerable time afterwards while he recovered. When fighting Sasuke, he had only used it once and experienced some bodily weakness when trying to prevent him from killing Sakura. He might not go through the entrie eye clutching that Sasuke and Itachi go through, but he does encounter serious disconfort and probably isn't capable of using as often to bring those radical side effects. Itachi and Sasuke meanwhile are more capable of pushing it to it's limits (the latter especially, when he invaded the summit he must have used it excess of 10 times in total, despite the charka recovery it did a huge number to him.)

He has already stated that his Sharigan eye expericed some eyesight loss, hence he doesn't have EMS. Though having a normal eye to enable him to continue seeing is one of the few perks he has over a pureblood.

 

[Deidera]

Yes,I wonder what that jutsu he's going to use will be
Could it be :
1)Kamui?
2)Something similar to Sasuke's chidori no gesh(Chidori streams) but in the direction of the Juubi?
Or something else.

 

[Minato x]

But he has shown great pain. Unlike Itachi, he collapsed after two uses of it and was completely unable to move for a considerable time afterwards while he recovered. When fighting Sasuke, he had only used it once and experienced some bodily weakness when trying to prevent him from killing Sakura. He might not go through the entrie eye clutching that Sasuke and Itachi go through, but he does encounter serious disconfort and probably isn't capable of using as often to bring those radical side effects. Itachi and Sasuke meanwhile are more capable of pushing it to it's limits (the latter especially, when he invaded the summit he must have used it excess of 10 times in total, despite the charka recovery it did a huge number to him.)

He has already stated that his Sharigan eye expericed some eyesight loss, hence he doesn't have EMS. Though having a normal eye to enable him to continue seeing is one of the few perks he has over a pureblood.

He gets physical and mental damage, but no damage of vision whatsoever.
Sasuke and Itachi are Uchihas, they can use it freely, it doesn't drain their chakra as it does with Kakashi, the reason why Kakashi is damaged.

Pain to the body is all related to the chakra drain.
I'm talking about vision damage.

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Yes,I wonder what that jutsu he's going to use will be
Could it be :
1)Kamui?
2)Something similar to Sasuke's chidori no gesh(Chidori streams) but in the direction of the Juubi?
Or something else.

New power, something we haven't seen. A newer and better version of Kamui might happen, but Chidori Stream is too weak against Gedo Mazo/Juubi.
His new power up (that most likely will happen) will be related to his Sharingan.