Kakashi vs Raikage A

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With full intel Ay takes him out with a V2 blitz.
 

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It may have escaped your notice but Naruto was like 1 meter away from Ay and Naruto already performed his kage bunshin handseal so wtf are you talking about. And jumping to the conclusion that Naruto would have been hit is merely a speculation because we've seen him dodging faster attacks.

Doesn't change the outcome of this fight. Ay wins. His speed is too much for Kakashi to react to.
 

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The moment he goes into v2 Kakashi makes multiple clones once he swings and hits a clown he's then sniped seeing as MS users can see him before he strikes.( ). Once he hits the clone he's then sniped.

Ay literally stopped himself from striking in that scan because of the Enton. In V2 Ay vanished from Sasuke's vision & appeared in no time at all behind him.

After that happened we see Sasuke with his MS noticed
 
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Doesn't change the outcome of this fight. Ay wins. His speed is too much for Kakashi to react to.
Unless he teleports himself to the other dimension right at the start (he can do it faster than A could blitz him) and later goes back while trying to remain unnoticed like Obito against Naruto and then a sneak attack on Ay. So i cant go any further than to say that A likely wins more times than not.
 

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Ay wins. MS can't kee up with v2 Ay's speed, so Kakashi's kamui is rendered useless. Lol at the clone making argument, Kakashi has no time to do that kind of maneouver against someone that fast.

The only chance Kakashi gets is to make a kamui warp right when the battle starts, giving Ay no time at all, not even for going v2. If Ay goes v2 is definitely over for Kakashi.
 

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That's when Ay had weights attached to his arms, sort of like how Rock Lee wore weights on his legs. When he fought with them off Naruto couldn't make the tiger seal fast enough before he would have caught that fade. Ay w/no weights > Ay w/ weights
Please don't tell me that your referring to those things on his arms if so sign out ASAP.

With full intel Ay takes him out with a V2 blitz.
Clones disagree.

Ay literally stopped himself from striking in that scan because of the Enton. In V2 Ay vanished from Sasuke's vision & appeared in no time at all behind him.

After that happened we see Sasuke with his MS noticed
Umm no if he gave a shit about Enton he wouldn't have hit it in the first place. plus that was Ei shunsui that escaped Sasuke Los he casual speed isn't doing such a thing.

Ay wins. MS can't kee up with v2 Ay's speed, so Kakashi's kamui is rendered useless. Lol at the clone making argument, Kakashi has no time to do that kind of maneouver against someone that fast.

The only chance Kakashi gets is to make a kamui warp right when the battle starts, giving Ay no time at all, not even for going v2. If Ay goes v2 is definitely over for Kakashi.
In the time it takes him to get into v2 clones will be deployed. Or your right he can snipe him from the start.
 

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Ay literally stopped himself from striking in that scan because of the Enton. In V2 Ay vanished from Sasuke's vision & appeared in no time at all behind him.

After that happened we see Sasuke with his MS noticed

MS Sasuke was never blitzed in the first place.

As Ei attempted to flicker outside his Field of Vision, MS Sasuke's head turned in the direction of his speed indicating that Sasuke detected Ei's speed, but couldn't follow it as he moves much faster than Sasuke can turn his head. Later, we're given an indication that Sasuke followed his speed as there are no exclamation marks which would normally indicate a blitz as well as the fact that he properly timed his Enton the instant before Ei attempted to strike his Susano'o.
 

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Please don't tell me that your referring to those things on his arms if so sign out ASAP.
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Unless you present some sort of evidence that shows the weights on his arms didn't slow his strike speed down, you ain't saying nothing.
 

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Clones disagree.

This dude is gonna react to a V2 blitz from 20 meters with a clone? Smh. When he had to use Kamui for a Susanoo Arrow?
 

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This dude is gonna react to a V2 blitz from 20 meters with a clone? Smh. When he had to use Kamui for a Susanoo Arrow?

Honestly to be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if Kakashi engaged him with clones to begin, so by the time Ei decides to use V2, Kakashi already has his trap clones in place.
 

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Honestly to be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if Kakashi engaged him with clones to begin, so by the time Ei decides to use V2, Kakashi already has his trap clones in place.

Ay has full intel and the distance is 20m. There is no "by the time he uses V2". The moment the match starts is when he blitzes Kakashi and kills him.
 

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Ay has full intel and the distance is 20m. There is no "by the time he uses V2". The moment the match starts is when he blitzes Kakashi and kills him.

Pre-War Arc Kakashi? Sure.
Anything War-Arc or later, it ends differently.
 

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Not a chance. The only Kakashi that stops a V2 blitz is Kakashi w/ Hagoromo's chakra.

Kakashi fought against Obito and caught him numerous times in taijutsu and genjutsu, I don't think V2 Ei is on that level.
 

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Kakashi fought against Obito and caught him numerous times in taijutsu and genjutsu, I don't think V2 Ei is on that level.

Smh. V2 Ay is far faster than Obito, and he'd wreck Obito in CQC.
 

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You know that Obito took on BM Naruto, BM Bee, Kakashi and Gai, all at the same time?
Kakashi beat him in kamui land on his own.

You do know that Obito was in perfect condition and had Kamui and his Gunbai then right? Kakashi beat a tired Obito who couldn't phase through things because he was in his dimension. Take the fight outside and Obito would've stomped him since outside, Kakashi canonically could not win on his own.
 

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@Keehl

All Obito was doing in his fight was activating Kamui and passing through their attacks. The fact that Obito lost to Kakashi is direct evidence his physical abilities are slightly below that of Kakashi, so close you won't even see the difference, until those crucial last moments on who's a tad bit quicker.

In Kamui Land in that same scenario, Ay would beat his ass six days to Sunday.
 

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Unless he teleports himself to the other dimension right at the start (he can do it faster than A could blitz him) and later goes back while trying to remain unnoticed like Obito against Naruto and then a sneak attack on Ay. So i cant go any further than to say that A likely wins more times than not.
kakasho can't teleport to the other dimension

he can only teleport back to this one after obito puts him there
 

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Every version of Kakakashi except DMS, loses.
 
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