Kakashi vs. Obito: No Sharingan or Bijuu! RINNEGAN ALLOWED

[Piratefish]

He couldn't have aged a bit afterwards cause he was at the end of his natural lifespan, its most likely that he summoned it and connected himself to the statue in a short period of time.

How Madara got knowledge of the Rinnegan techs doesn't matter since he passed all of that knowledge to Obito.

I never said it was easy, I just said there is no reason to believe Obito can't use both at the same time.

Has he stated that he got the Rinnegan at the end of his lifespan?

Practical ability and theoretical knowledge are two VERY different things.

 

[KidGamer65]

Has he stated that he got the Rinnegan at the end of his lifespan?

Practical ability and theoretical knowledge are two VERY different things.

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<---At the end of his life span he got the Rinnegan.

With Dojutsu seen in this series, knowledge about the technique is enough.

-Danzo learned about Izanagi, and got the Sharingan, then he could use it, no practice needed.

-Obito got MS and could automatically use Kamui and he was using Mokuton too.

-Sasuke got MS and could automatically use Amaterasu

 

[Piratefish]

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<---At the end of his life span he got the Rinnegan.

With Dojutsu seen in this series, knowledge about the technique is enough.

-Danzo learned about Izanagi, and got the Sharingan, then he could use it, no practice needed.

-Obito got MS and could automatically use Kamui and he was using Mokuton too.

-Sasuke got MS and could automatically use Amaterasu

Madara could have practiced Rinnegan techs while connected to the Gedou, and there's a time gap between his natural lifespan's end and Nagato getting the eyes.

Doujutsu being grasped instinctively seems to be exclusively the property of the Sharingan, which is logical as you literally learn even your opponents abilities without much effort on your part.

The Byakugan, on the other hand, requires BASTARDLY amounts of time to master.

The Rinnegan seems to be of this type, proof is Nagato, Madara timegap, and Obito not using even ONE Rinnegan tech even though he doesn't have to worry about the Paths sapping his chakra any more, AND he's got Senju DNA.


This seems like an interesting enough topic for a separate thread.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara could have practiced Rinnegan techs while connected to the Gedou, and there's a time gap between his natural lifespan's end and Nagato getting the eyes.

Doujutsu being grasped instinctively seems to be exclusively the property of the Sharingan, which is logical as you literally learn even your opponents abilities without much effort on your part.

The Byakugan, on the other hand, requires BASTARDLY amounts of time to master.

The Rinnegan seems to be of this type, proof is Nagato, Madara timegap, and Obito not using even ONE Rinnegan tech even though he doesn't have to worry about the Paths sapping his chakra any more, AND he's got Senju DNA.


This seems like an interesting enough topic for a separate thread.

There is most likely no timegap, Zetsu could have transplanted Nagato's eyes into him while Madara was stuck to the Mazo, I don't see an elderly Madara who is about to die going to the Rain Village and transplanting his eyes into Nagato.

There is nothing indicating that the Rinnegan is this type.

We have no idea about the timeline specifics for Madara and Nagato getting the eyes so I'm not going to get into that

As for Obito not using any techniques, he doesn't need them yet, up until now, he has been fighting Kakashi and he doesn't need Rinnegan against Kakashi when he has the Sharingan.

This could be pretty interesting for a thread...but I don't know if anyone would pay attention due to all the troll threads popping up.

 

[Piratefish]

There is most likely no timegap, Zetsu could have transplanted Nagato's eyes into him while Madara was stuck to the Mazo, I don't see an elderly Madara who is about to die going to the Rain Village and transplanting his eyes into Nagato.

There is nothing indicating that the Rinnegan is this type.

We have no idea about the timeline specifics for Madara and Nagato getting the eyes so I'm not going to get into that

As for Obito not using any techniques, he doesn't need them yet, up until now, he has been fighting Kakashi and he doesn't need Rinnegan against Kakashi when he has the Sharingan.

This could be pretty interesting for a thread...but I don't know if anyone would pay attention due to all the troll threads popping up.

I may be responsible for some of those, or at least some of the joke ones. They might look trollish from a distance.

I agree that the timegap is hard to estimate, and it seems to be the deciding factor in this debate. I myself can imagine old Madara kidnapping and experimenting on Nagato rather easily.

There's nothing indicating it isn't, either.

Obito seems to be in a troublesome position at the moment, and the Rinnegan could help turn the tide. If he doesn't bust it out, shall we agree that Rinnegan techs are hard, and that two at once are beyond him?

Or shall we agree to disagree?

 

[KidGamer65]

I may be responsible for some of those, or at least some of the joke ones. They might look trollish from a distance.

I agree that the timegap is hard to estimate, and it seems to be the deciding factor in this debate. I myself can imagine old Madara kidnapping and experimenting on Nagato rather easily.

There's nothing indicating it isn't, either.

Obito seems to be in a troublesome position at the moment, and the Rinnegan could help turn the tide. If he doesn't bust it out, shall we agree that Rinnegan techs are hard, and that two at once are beyond him?

Or shall we agree to disagree?

We should just agree to disagree for now, and pick up again when he see more of Obito's fighting style.

Oh and btw, you aren't responsible for any of the troll threads that have popped up, they are all being made some guy called Big Burgers.

 

[Piratefish]

We should just agree to disagree for now, and pick up again when he see more of Obito's fighting style.

Oh and btw, you aren't responsible for any of the troll threads that have popped up, they are all being made some guy called Big Burgers.

I have a few which definitely SEEMS trollish, and one which seems to have been deleted. Here's an example:

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[KidGamer65]

I have a few which definitely SEEMS trollish, and one which seems to have been deleted. Here's an example:

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Lol, that was kinda funny, but the ones made by Big Burgers are outright trolling, what is messed up is this is the same guy who has been trolling the base for weeks now, he just keeps making alts and using proxies to get past IP Bans.

 

[Piratefish]

Lol, that was kinda funny, but the ones made by Big Burgers are outright trolling, what is messed up is this is the same guy who has been trolling the base for weeks now, he just keeps making alts and using proxies to get past IP Bans.

That's annoying. Get a life, person I've never seen nor heard of.

 

[KidGamer65]

That's annoying. Get a life, person I've never seen nor heard of.

Lol, I agree.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

rinnegan is still a dojutsu and with gunbai mokuton and barriers he can take kakashi comfortably, with rinnegan tracking kakashi's chakra

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I agree. I mean Kakashi has 4/5 of the elements but that doesn't mean that Tobirama (I chose him on purpose) can't beat him.

3/5

He only has fire in the anime.

Obito takes this.

Make it base, sharinganless kakashi versus base, sharingan/rinnegan/mokutonless Obito and Kakashi might stand a chance.

As it is, Obito wins easily.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Kakashi w/o sharingan is like. A square wheel. It won't function right; its nuclear rape for kakashi