Kakashi vs Maito Gai

[garas56]

There's so much half ass to this it isn't even funny you can't really consider that a win for Kakashi he got his chakra replenish 3x and healed by sakura

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On that part of kakashi winning that was when they were kids grown boys different ball game rock lee defeated Naruto & Sasuke before do you believe he can do it now

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I'm giving this to might gai i can't see Lightning beating afternoon tiger or kamui catching guy in 5th ,6th ,7th gate

In Ninjutsu kakashi better
Speed Might Gai
Genjutsu Kakashi
Taijutsu Gai
Stamina Gai
Inteligence Kakashi


Might gai already knows how to fight a sharingan user and even gave kakashi tips on how to fight one

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Afternoon tiger beats lightning blade if naruto ,yamato,killer bee fleet just the shock wave from a far distance i dont see kakashi dodging it. Kakashi water justu wouldnt work either because kisame mastering that element couldnt even save him

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Might gai was even able to go neutralize a attack from the 6 tails

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I Take this easily
1.Kakashi got only chackra replenish 2x and healed by sakura Guy was Healed and got chackra the same way right?.

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2.I dont care About Rock Lee and Sasuke Manga says Kakashi alvays 1Step ahead of Guy whitch means Kakashi>Guy(Also i need to say Opening Gates takes time and Kamui>Gates in terms of time
3.In Ninjutsu kakashi better
Speed Might Gai
Genjutsu Kakashi
Taijutsu Gai
Stamina Kakashi-Changed cous u did something unfair.....Kakashi uses his Stamina as beast right now and guy after using 7 Gate Well maybe this page says it

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Or this

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Inteligence Kakashi
Result is "4"-Kakashi"2"Guy"
U saying "Might gai was even able to go neutralize a attack from the 6 tails"And Kakashi neuralized one of the beasts two Even when guy was on Gates mode Kakashi was similar up with his spead.
Im just Saying this Kakashi with Ms>Guy bycous Guy wont be able to open Gates faster then Kamui....
Also i wonder Why Kakashi was Chosen to be 3rd division capitan if Guy is so cool?

 

[garas56]

Lmao. Guy beating Kakashi as a kid? back when he wasn't a taijutsu master? Irrelevant. Sasuke beat Naruto multiple times as kids. Don't use kiddie scans btw. Waste of time.

Anyways, that argument about Kakashi using Kamui on a moving BM Naruto is also irrelevant because Naruto wasn't moving in full speed at all. Gai's fullspeed>Naruto moved in. Kakashi can't Kamui Naruto when he's using his blitzing speed.


Cool. What does that have to do with Kamui working on Gai? exactly. Nothing. Gai never lost to current Obito so this is irrelevant.




Why should i? BM Naruto wasn't moving at his fullspeed. These arguments about Kakashi Kamuing BM Naruto are stupid. That's like me saying Sasuke is as fast as Ay because he was keeping up with V1 Ay. Nothing to do with the argument. Show me a scan where he Kamui's someone who's actually moving fast at the moment. There's no evidence that Kakashi's sharingan can keep up with Gai's speed.

Don't be an idiot. I never argued against manga facts. Your trying to change the manga facts.


All im saying. Kamui wont be enough to beat Gai. I'd agree with people saying that Kakashi wins, if they actually provided good arguments instead of the basic "Kamui GG".

1.U was saying this"Gai never lost to Obito in Taijutsu."He lost i just shoved u Scan...
2.BM Naruto was Mowing at Full Speed Back then and BM Naruto speed>Ay(For god sake he Attacked Obito with Rasengan)Show me scan is told that Naruto wasnt Moving at full speed.
3.BM Naruto Is Faster then ay who is Speed blitzing his oponents If Kakashi Kamued BM Naruto that means Kakashi Kamui speed>BM Naruto Speed with sems to be as fast as 6.7Gate so Kakashi dealed with it in easy
4.Now u see In Data boks and Manga it is Said that Kamui is Instant and Gates need Preparation on opening With Means Kamui>Gates and even if Guy wuld be able to win By opening 8th gate(Which hardly Pousible) he wuld die Thats why it means tie or Kakashi>Guy.
If Guy wuld attack first Then Maybe..... But Knowing Kakashi I know he wuld never Fall for Guy tricks and eventualy by knowing how gates works Kakashi>Guy.(I bet Kakashi has beter sensing of Oponents then guy)
BTW."Peoples saying Arguments but if u are fan u wont get a single Word".

 

[Fireplay]

1.U was saying this"Gai never lost to Obito in Taijutsu."He lost i just shoved u Scan...
2.BM Naruto was Mowing at Full Speed Back then and BM Naruto speed>Ay(For god sake he Attacked Obito with Rasengan)Show me scan is told that Naruto wasnt Moving at full speed.
3.BM Naruto Is Faster then ay who is Speed blitzing his oponents If Kakashi Kamued BM Naruto that means Kakashi Kamui speed>BM Naruto Speed with sems to be as fast as 6.7Gate so Kakashi dealed with it in easy
4.Now u see In Data boks and Manga it is Said that Kamui is Instant and Gates need Preparation on opening With Means Kamui>Gates and even if Guy wuld be able to win By opening 8th gate(Which hardly Pousible) he wuld die Thats why it means tie or Kakashi>Guy.
If Guy wuld attack first Then Maybe..... But Knowing Kakashi I know he wuld never Fall for Guy tricks and eventualy by knowing how gates works Kakashi>Guy.(I bet Kakashi has beter sensing of Oponents then guy)
BTW."Peoples saying Arguments but if u are fan u wont get a single Word".

1.U was saying this"Gai never lost to Obito in Taijutsu."He lost i just shoved u Scan...

What? The scan you gave showed Gai as a kid wiping the floor with Obito. Gai hasn't lost to Obito in Taijutsu.

2.BM Naruto was Mowing at Full Speed Back then and BM Naruto speed>Ay(For god sake he Attacked Obito with Rasengan)Show me scan is told that Naruto wasnt Moving at full speed.

Don't be ridiculous. He was nowhere near full speed. If that's BM Naruto's full speed then Gai>BM Naruto in speed. That wasn't Naruto's full speed. Not even close.

3.BM Naruto Is Faster then ay who is Speed blitzing his oponents If Kakashi Kamued BM Naruto that means Kakashi Kamui speed>BM Naruto Speed with sems to be as fast as 6.7Gate so Kakashi dealed with it in easy

As i said. BM Naruto was nowhere near his full speed. That was a casual jump. Obito was about to react to it then Kakashi Kamui'd Naruto. The fact that Obito didn't get blitzed only further proves that it was a casual jump.

4.Now u see In Data boks and Manga it is Said that Kamui is Instant and Gates need Preparation on opening With Means Kamui>Gates and even if Guy wuld be able to win By opening 8th gate(Which hardly Pousible) he wuld die Thats why it means tie or Kakashi>Guy.

Kamui isn't instant. Kakashi has to stop the headband from blocking his sharingan, activate MS, aim, then Kamui. The aiming part wont happen as Gai is too fast for him. Gai doesn't need to open the 8th Gate.


As i said before. It's a draw or one of them wins Omega diff. Kamui GG argument doesn't work. Unless your willing to show me a scan where Kakashi uses Kamui on someone who's moving faster then Gai or you can provide an argument where Kakashi wins without the basic Kamui GG bullshit. Then i'll believe you.

The fight also depends on starting distance.

 

[iiDarui]

I Take this easily
1.Kakashi got only chackra replenish 2x and healed by sakura Guy was Healed and got chackra the same way right?.

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2.I dont care About Rock Lee and Sasuke Manga says Kakashi alvays 1Step ahead of Guy whitch means Kakashi>Guy(Also i need to say Opening Gates takes time and Kamui>Gates in terms of time
3.In Ninjutsu kakashi better
Speed Might Gai
Genjutsu Kakashi
Taijutsu Gai
Stamina Kakashi-Changed cous u did something unfair.....Kakashi uses his Stamina as beast right now and guy after using 7 Gate Well maybe this page says it

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Or this

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Inteligence Kakashi
Result is "4"-Kakashi"2"Guy"
U saying "Might gai was even able to go neutralize a attack from the 6 tails"And Kakashi neuralized one of the beasts two Even when guy was on Gates mode Kakashi was similar up with his spead.
Im just Saying this Kakashi with Ms>Guy bycous Guy wont be able to open Gates faster then Kamui....
Also i wonder Why Kakashi was Chosen to be 3rd division capitan if Guy is so cool?

"Opening Gates takes time and Kamui>Gates in terms of time"

Please, please tell me you aren't this much of a bakayaro. Hachimon takes almost no time at all for Gai

 

[Takos]

Show me a scan of this Kakashi kamuing Naruto's clone. Also Kakashi beating Obito in Taijutsu has no relevance to this as Gai never lost to Obito in Taijutsu. If you mean Obito countering Gai's speed with that Kamui he just pulled off in the scan you provided. Obito used Kamui to dodge it.

Kakashi and Obito were in the Kamui dimension when he and Kakashi fought. Kakashi didn't win. They both got pierced but Obito was the one who left.

Your implying that Kakashi Kamui'd a full speed BM Naruto. That's not possible as even Sasuke's sharingan couldn't keep up with V2 Raikage and BM Naruto>V2 Raikage. Show me the scan and i'll show you the flaw.

I don't feel like rebutting all of this, so I'll just state the obvious - Obito himself admitted Kakashi won against him and you're saying it was a draw? Please.

Kamui isn't instant. Kakashi has to stop the headband from blocking his sharingan, activate MS, aim, then Kamui. The aiming part wont happen as Gai is too fast for him. Gai doesn't need to open the 8th Gate.

Kakashi has to remove his headband - that's the argument brought more and more frequently when people can't find anything else (see my signature).

Activate MS?
During a fraction of a second when Sasuke shot his arrows at Kakashi:
-Kakashi concluded that the arrows are too fast for him to dodge otherwise than with Kamui
-Kakashi activated MS
-Kakashi used Kamui twice

Also, Obito was going head to head with Guy even when he didn't use Kamui to dodge:

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In other words, Obito DID counter Guy's taijutsu. And we all know Kakashi overpowered Obito in taijutsu to create an opening for killing him.

But on the other hand, I find (some of) your arguments convincing and I am eager to agree Guy has a chance of winning. Little chance, however. Don't forget Kakashi is not "all kamui and nothing else".

1. Speed - at 6th gated Guy's level - arrived at the battlefield together with him and then attacked edo jins together equally fast.
2. Genjutsu - at Obito's level - that speaks for itself
3. Ninjutsu - Kakashi's ninjutsu is his own tier - apart from "crude" ninjutsu mastery displayed shown in 3 elements perfected and a sheer number of techniques available, Kakashi is also a master of bunshin feints. Zabuza, Itachi (twice), Pain... all of them fell for Kakashi's feints.

So my final opinion is Kakashi winning 8 out of 10 times.

 

[garas56]

What? The scan you gave showed Gai as a kid wiping the floor with Obito. Gai hasn't lost to Obito in Taijutsu.

Don't be ridiculous. He was nowhere near full speed. If that's BM Naruto's full speed then Gai>BM Naruto in speed. That wasn't Naruto's full speed. Not even close.

As i said. BM Naruto was nowhere near his full speed. That was a casual jump. Obito was about to react to it then Kakashi Kamui'd Naruto. The fact that Obito didn't get blitzed only further proves that it was a casual jump.

Kamui isn't instant. Kakashi has to stop the headband from blocking his sharingan, activate MS, aim, then Kamui. The aiming part wont happen as Gai is too fast for him. Gai doesn't need to open the 8th Gate.


As i said before. It's a draw or one of them wins Omega diff. Kamui GG argument doesn't work. Unless your willing to show me a scan where Kakashi uses Kamui on someone who's moving faster then Gai or you can provide an argument where Kakashi wins without the basic Kamui GG bullshit. Then i'll believe you.

The fight also depends on starting distance.

1.Wher is was Writed that He was nowhere near full speed? if Guy in 4Gates=Kakashis Speed i doubt 7th Gates>BM NARUTO in speed And also rearead Manga wher Obito says That Damn Kakashi Has beter timing then mines whitch means BM Naruto was fast and obito vasnt able to reackt to it.
2.Naruto Blized Obito thats why Obito used wepons from dimension anyvays he culd make himself intagable so even when he was Blized he culd realy on his Eyes
3.Kakashi Can aim Easily i saw this in War art to much Kakashi used Kamue Efective to much times and its instant Manga facts Why are u arguing with Manga?Kakashi awakened his Mangekyō Sharingan after unintentionally killing Rin Nohara, though seemed unaware of its awakening until years later. With it he can perform Kamui: a technique that creates a space-time barrier in the form of a swirling void that sucks any target he focuses his eye on to another dimension and also bring them back; even transporting them to a new location. Originally, Kakashi lacked proper control to accurately hit his target. His skill and aim later improved greatly, able to successfully warp small, fast-moving, or multiple targets in rapid succession as seen against Pain, and Sasuke respectively.Even Obito, who mastered his variation of Kamui, openly acknowledged Kakashi's great skill with the technique and his timing and reaction.
As Kakashi Is in fight or before it he alvays with it i doubt u Know how Kakashi acts in Fight if u thin Kakashi will fight Streangth vs strangth he vill fight Strangth+Brains+Skills VS Strangth admit that Kakashi is beast in analyzing oponent and he wuld either trick Guy in fight and win or Make draw Kakashis Headband is not a problem 1Sec and hes ready Kakashi don't need to aim if His oponent stands Straight or Runs toward him or tries to open gates....Yes its depends on Starting Distance
and eisight pousibility if guy wuld attack from Behing he wuld Have huge advantage or if staring fught distance is 10-50meters,Kakashi wuld nod Have time to open his Eye but still Non gated guy wont Do big damage to kakashi with his normal speed

 

[garas56]

"Opening Gates takes time and Kamui>Gates in terms of time"

Please, please tell me you aren't this much of a bakayaro. Hachimon takes almost no time at all for Gai

Do u know Kakashi can open 1Gate of Opening do i need to show u how he dose that?

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Pleas Don't argue with Facts Kakashi>Guy Till Kakashi is smarter has beter Genjutsu he is more skilled controls chackra much beter and Has one of most Powerfull dojutsu"MS".

 

[EKSITE]

I Take this easily
1.Kakashi got only chackra replenish 2x and healed by sakura Guy was Healed and got chackra the same way right?.

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2.I dont care About Rock Lee and Sasuke Manga says Kakashi alvays 1Step ahead of Guy whitch means Kakashi>Guy(Also i need to say Opening Gates takes time and Kamui>Gates in terms of time
3.In Ninjutsu kakashi better
Speed Might Gai
Genjutsu Kakashi
Taijutsu Gai
Stamina Kakashi-Changed cous u did something unfair.....Kakashi uses his Stamina as beast right now and guy after using 7 Gate Well maybe this page says it

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Or this

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Inteligence Kakashi
Result is "4"-Kakashi"2"Guy"
U saying "Might gai was even able to go neutralize a attack from the 6 tails"And Kakashi neuralized one of the beasts two Even when guy was on Gates mode Kakashi was similar up with his spead.
Im just Saying this Kakashi with Ms>Guy bycous Guy wont be able to open Gates faster then Kamui....
Also i wonder Why Kakashi was Chosen to be 3rd division capitan if Guy is so cool?

Wont be able to open gate faster then he can kamui yeah ok lol

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Kakashi already admitted the superiority of the Gate > Kamui kakashi knew he couldn't warp the tail beast bomb with kamui but guy could of with his gates.

Gate is a pro at opening the gates unlike Kakashi he open it and closed it split second with you half ass post


Learn how to read i was referring to your might gai beating kakashi post duh

 

[TheEvilOne]

Kakashi wins unless Guy has full intel and Kakashi has no intel.

 

[Touken]

Gai wins. Kakashi isn't gonna Kamui something as fast as a Gated Gai.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Gai wins. Kakashi isn't gonna Kamui something as fast as a Gated Gai.

Says who ?

 

[Bogard]

People always say gated Gai is too fast for Kakashi to react, yet even in dangerous situations like in this war, Gated Gai never showed me the impression he is that fast that high level ninjas couldn't follow. We've even see him do timing attacks with Kakashi using raikiri. Not even mentioning the sharingan here that helps to predict movements with great level of accuracy, said sharingan that Gai admitted to be a problem for him enough to create an entire fighting style in order to fight on equal grounds with his rival. The real advantage of gates comes with asakujaku that gives the user an impressive attacking speed or Hirudora an impressive long range attack. Gai could it to overpower Kakashi if necessary(Asakujaku mostly in close combat however).

Problem is that Kakashi is much more versatile than him and it has been frequently shown during their duels, that Kakashi sometimes managed to fool him with little tricks like Kawarimi or Kage Bunshin. A raiton kage bunshin for example could be a perfect trick against an opponent such as Gai, having no means to identify the clone with the original, and that could leave him open for a following attack(Raikiri most likely). It's no wonder that Gai himself admitted that Kakashi was always one step ahead of him in their battles:

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Kakashi is simply stronger than Gai, but not by much probably

 

[elsepa]

Gates gg tenchar.

 

[elsepa]

Exactly, i was refering to people like this one. Although as a Gai fanboy, it's not surprising. Still waiting on the page where Gated Gai became Flash other than in fanfictions though

Nah , i'm not a fanboy . He may not be that strong , but strong enough to take Kakashi for sure.

 

[Liath]

as heavily implied in the manga, i believe the eternal rivals are equal.

 

[iiDarui]

Do u know Kakashi can open 1Gate of Opening do i need to show u how he dose that?

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Recuest time Of consentrating....
Pleas Don't argue with Facts Kakashi>Guy Till Kakashi is smarter has beter Genjutsu he is more skilled controls chackra much beter and Has one of most Powerfull dojutsu"MS".

That's Kakashi!! Obviously Gai trains with the Hachimon MUCH mow that Kakashi. Inn terms of gates: Gai>>>>>>>>>Kakashi
And saying that Kakashi can warp someone as fast as Gai is like saying Neji can hit Gai with a 64 palms. It doesn't make sense. He can't hit something he can't see, let alone keep up with. Same with Kakashi. He can't warp Gai if he can't see him. Gai's speed>x100 to Kakashi's vision.

 

[deidara senpai]

i guess my post on page 1 didnt mean anything lol

 

[Red Slayer]

he can
obito was able to avoid naruto by warping himself although naruto was so near to him

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kakashi can go underground deeply to avoid hiudora as another option

How can u compare Obito to Kakashi, He is Uchiha, Kakashi isn't

OT:Gai wins high diff

 

[garas56]

That's Kakashi!! Obviously Gai trains with the Hachimon MUCH mow that Kakashi. Inn terms of gates: Gai>>>>>>>>>Kakashi
And saying that Kakashi can warp someone as fast as Gai is like saying Neji can hit Gai with a 64 palms. It doesn't make sense. He can't hit something he can't see, let alone keep up with. Same with Kakashi. He can't warp Gai if he can't see him. Gai's speed>x100 to Kakashi's vision.

I ask u one more time how will Guy gona open Gates

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if Kakashi Kamuis him?

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If u in fight and Being spot by that Ms U are dead meath Kakashi dont need much just simply Start Kamui and Guy Need to open gates so Kakashi is in advantage in everything Dont Forget Kakashi in War article Even when guy was in 4-6gates was in the same speed with Guy that means even if guy will Try to fight Hand to Hand thats wont Be so efective Against Kakashi who is also MS User...
Like i said Kakashi>Guy From Med to high dif...

 

[garas56]

Wont be able to open gate faster then he can kamui yeah ok lol

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Kakashi already admitted the superiority of the Gate > Kamui kakashi knew he couldn't warp the tail beast bomb with kamui but guy could of with his gates.

Gate is a pro at opening the gates unlike Kakashi he open it and closed it split second with you half ass post


Learn how to read i was referring to your might gai beating kakashi post duh

so Kakashi was able to use Thunder Slash which was as Fast as Guys 6th gate and moved at the same Sped Impresiv thats realy means Kamui>Gates bycous Kakashi Ceaped up with that speed..
Guy and Kakashi both Culd do it and one of Them wuld be dead by now either...Your point 8th gates>Kamui yes but 7Gates<Kamui thats what u Have And Kakashi wuld not wait till Guy will open 8Gates Kamui is Faster Then guy in 6Gates so guy has no Chanses of wining...