Kakashi vs Kabuto

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Restrictions/Conditions: No Edo Tesnei. Kakashi's PS sword cannot produce shockwaves.
 

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Kakashi's PS is still strong enough to beat Kabuto.
 

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Quit trolling EJ Black. Kakashi negs him.
 

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The obvious answer is Kakashi, but I can see how Kabuto could push him to high diff

-Hakugeki may or may not shatter PS, but it will blind and deafen Kakashi
-Manda 2 can slither up PS and wrap around its legs, forcing it to kneel over. He can also ensnare Susano'o with Kidomaru's webs
-Mugen Onsa still works

However, Kakashi's offensive techniques are too powerful (kamui rakiriki, kamui magatama) and intangibility is tricky to deal with.

With Edo Tensei Kabuto wins.
 

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So...Kakashi isn't restricted yet you restrict Kabuto?!? Bias in these threads is ridiculous
 

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Kakashi's PS is still strong enough to beat Kabuto.

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Quit trolling EJ Black. Kakashi negs him.

Lol no way its going to be a neg fight. Any of your reasoning will get shut down

The obvious answer is Kakashi, but I can see how Kabuto could push him to high diff

-Hakugeki may or may not shatter PS, but it will blind and deafen Kakashi

-Manda 2 can slither up PS and wrap around its legs, forcing it to kneel over. He can also ensnare Susano'o with Kidomaru's webs
-Mugen Onsa still works

However, Kakashi's offensive techniques are too powerful (kamui rakiriki, kamui magatama) and intangibility is tricky to deal with.

With Edo Tensei Kabuto wins.

Def a high dif fight.

- True.
- True , but Kidomarus webs isn't a factor here
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- True, which is why Kabuto needs to land Genjutsu before the fight continues any longer


So...Kakashi isn't restricted yet you restrict Kabuto?!? Bias in these threads is ridiculous

What are you talking about lol? Kakashi's PS isn't allow to PS slash shockwave snipe in this match, since shockwaves is restricted so it isn't one sided.

Kamui snipe ends this.

Here:

In all the cases of Kamui snipe warping "instantly", they were all very close to Kakashi. Note: I will use even unskilled Kamui Kakashi to prove my point too.

Lets look at all the long range use scenario.[ > > ].<--2 more pages, you get the point. Now lets look at the close range in the same arc[ > > . Techically 2 pages compare to long range 5 pages. Lets look at more experience Kakashi via Pain arc. [ ]. Thats it 1 page for close range. Now lets look at long range[ > ]<== Page 1 give it alot more panel time. Lets look at War arc: Long range [ [/URL]> ]. Obito had enough time to cancel it. In fact the whole fight Kakashi shown he had to move closer to warp things faster, shown through out the whole fight. Juubi arc Kakashi's comment[ ]. Close range Juubi arc[ > . All of these evidence shows that close range shot of Kamui's line of sight is slower then long range shots, therefore it isn't instant in ever range. Even if Kakashi were to make a larger warp range, that would mean it will take longer to consume the opponent, shown against Deidara. [ > > ].


In the end these one shot "instant" jutsu have its cons

With that said with long range snipe, Kabuto will already be prepare to long range due to chakra built up from the eye, that he can sense. He can hide his "new" body via Oral Rebirth w/ Doton and hit Kakashi with an unexpected surprise attack, since Kakashi wouldn't be able to detect him doing.
 

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So...Kakashi isn't restricted yet you restrict Kabuto?!? Bias in these threads is ridiculous

Maybe because anyone with edo Tensei is ridiculous? They're using other people's powers, not theirs. Even then, Kabuto would still lose. Kamui snipe GG before he uses Edo Tensei.
 

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Maybe because anyone with edo Tensei is ridiculous? They're using other people's powers, not theirs. Even then, Kabuto would still lose. Kamui snipe GG before he uses Edo Tensei.

See post #7. To where I address Kamui snipe. The last person I quote, YoungDebater, said the same thing.

And no w/ Edo Tensei Kabuto rapes
 

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Unrestrict edo tensei while restricting PS and Kakashi still wins
 

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See post #7. To where I address Kamui snipe. The last person I quote, YoungDebater, said the same thing.

And no w/ Edo Tensei Kabuto rapes

You clearly state that the starting distance matters. That, and double eyes, is more than enough to snipe Kabuto. You didn't even put a starting distance.
 

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Unrestrict edo tensei while restricting PS and Kakashi still wins

Or you can argue to what he has now and I can counter them.


You clearly state that the starting distance matters. That, and double eyes, is more than enough to snipe Kabuto. You didn't even put a starting distance.

What a reasonable distance to you then?
 

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Or you can argue to what he has now and I can counter them.




What a reasonable distance to you then?

A reasonable distance to stop the Kamui snipe? At least 100m. Even then, that gives Kakashi time to activate Susanoo and use Kamui Shurikens, which have a massive AOE. If they start at that distance, snakes will get stomped. I highly doubt Hakugeki would work at that distance. You also didn't put a location. Flat land would give Kakashi a major advantage while a cave would give Kabuto an advantage.
 

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Maybe because anyone with edo Tensei is ridiculous? They're using other people's powers, not theirs. Even then, Kabuto would still lose. Kamui snipe GG before he uses Edo Tensei.

You sound so hypocritical right now
 

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You sound so hypocritical right now

I suppose because Kakashi is using Obito's powers? The thing is, Edo Tensei gives no strain to the user other than when they do the Jutsu. ET revives people that have their own consciousness. Kakashi is actually still using his chakra, his physical body and brain. Kabuto doesn't have to do shit other than watch as his team of dead people try and stomp Kakashi.
 
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