Kakashi vs Itachi(No MS)

[Reborn]

Itachi's Tsukuyomi and genjutsu made him. Without Tsukuyomi, I believe Itachi would've had a much harder time dealing with Kakashi back in part one.

I honestly see Kakashi and Itachi on par with one another (minus Itachi's MS abilities) due to the fact that they're both prodigies. Itachi has genjustu over Kakashi, however Kakashi has ninjutsu over Itachi (IMO). Taijutsu would be more or less the same as for speed Itachi's probably faster but Kakashi can keep up.

Difficult to say really, it may come down to whoever lasts longer, meaning chakra.

 

[Owarij]

he couldn't do it again? what -_____- kakashi was about to kill him if sakura didn't interrupt

and we are talking about itachi with no ms

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He couldn't dodge the arrow, he had to kamui it, he said so himself

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This is what happens after he uses kamui, He can barely walk or do anything properly

If he couldn't dodge it pre kamui, If sasuke uses another 1 right after he definitely won't be able to dodge it. after kamui

Sasuke had almost 0 chakra left , and was going blind from overusing Ms in danzo's fight...a full healthy sasuke could easily kill sasuke there

 

[Owarij]

Itachi's Tsukuyomi and genjutsu made him. Without Tsukuyomi, I believe Itachi would've had a much harder time dealing with Kakashi back in part one.

I honestly see Kakashi and Itachi on par with one another (minus Itachi's MS abilities) due to the fact that they're both prodigies. Itachi has genjustu over Kakashi, however Kakashi has ninjutsu over Itachi (IMO). Taijutsu would be more or less the same as for speed Itachi's probably faster but Kakashi can keep up.

Difficult to say really, it may come down to whoever lasts longer, meaning chakra.

He may have had a much harder time, but kakashi almost straight out said itachi would be able to beat him , he was out of breathe and said "He hasn't even begun to show us all he has" Kakashi did not know about mangekyou, but he did know what itachi was capable of, they were both in anbu together, He's practically admitted itachi didn't scratch the surface of his power , and he was already gasping for breathe, Not to mention that was 2v1 against itachi's odds


17 year old itachi no ms > 26 year old kakashi
13 year old itachi no ms(anbu captain) > 22 year old kakashi

 

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He couldn't dodge the arrow, he had to kamui it, he said so himself

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This is what happens after he uses kamui, He can barely walk or do anything properly

If he couldn't dodge it pre kamui, If sasuke uses another 1 right after he definitely won't be able to dodge it. after kamui

Sasuke had almost 0 chakra left , and was going blind from overusing Ms in danzo's fight...a full healthy sasuke could easily kill sasuke there

lol that last edit lol

but he did dodge with kumai, and had sakura not tried to kill sasuke, kakashi would've had time to gather himself and kill sasuke lol

like you said he was going blind and had no chakra left

 

[Owarij]

lol that last edit lol

but he did dodge with kumai, and had sakura not tried to kill sasuke, kakashi would've had time to gather himself and kill sasuke lol

like you said he was going blind and had no chakra left

lol yea kakashi can kill blind / chakra less sasuke xd

But if sasuke was full chakra and not blind, he could technically end it in two /three susanno arrows

1 , Kakashi will kamui away because it's too fast
2 Idk if kakashi cam kamui consecutively right after the other, but yea he may kamui that 1 also
3-Bingo dead

They are too fast to dodge as he said himself , he has nothing

 

[Better]

lol yea kakashi can kill blind / chakra less sasuke xd

But if sasuke was full chakra and not blind, he could technically end it in two /three susanno arrows

1 , Kakashi will kamui away because it's too fast
2 Idk if kakashi cam kamui consecutively right after the other, but yea he may kamui that 1 also
3-Bingo dead

They are too fast to dodge as he said himself , he has nothing

lol i agree with you 100% but this thread is about kakashi vs itachi no ms lol

 

[Owarij]

lol i agree with you 100% but this thread is about kakashi vs itachi no ms lol

Lol yea

People are forgetting Itachi will have his Totsuka sword and yata mirror even without susanno, they aren't sussano items....They are legendary items like the sword of kusunagi, orochimaru was searching for them, they have no real physical form, so if itachi were to wield it, it would be as small as a normal sword in his hands

 

[Better]

Lol yea

People are forgetting Itachi will have his Totsuka sword and yata mirror even without susanno, they aren't sussano items....They are legendary items like the sword of kusunagi, orochimaru was searching for them, they have no real physical form, so if itachi were to wield it, it would be as small as a normal sword in his hands

lol thats true, i guess i change my vote then

 

[Zato]

If its a 1v1 Itachi still wins. Remember Itachi's normal genjutsu still alters time. His tsukuyomi just does it far longer. Kakashi needed Naruto's help just to defeat a clone of Itachi that only contained 30% of his chakara.

 

[Mygenjutsu]

Still itachi wins
did you people forget that he was a genius 1 that comes in 100 years lol?

He gained way faster then kakashi its obv itachi pwns here also.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

itachi still pawn

 

[Nimbustratus]

if said no MS, at least sharingan is enough for itachi.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

for the OP:
next time make a thread itachi(no sharingan) vs kakashi

 

[Tendou00]

kakashi of course without kamui .he as a better chakra and better ninjutsu than itachi.

 

[DarkClaw]

Itachi with low/med difficulty wins this.

 

[Owarij]

kakashi of course without kamui .he as a better chakra and better ninjutsu than itachi.

Ninjutsu is useless against itachi, he has yata mirror

 

[fastrthnwind]

I believe this fight to be pretty even without Itachi's MS, they are both incredible in combat strategies and their taijutsu, ninjutsu, and genjutsu are great as well. Although itachi is a bit faster and can weave handsigns faster than kakashi, kakashi could last longer as he has more chakra. They both also have sharingan, which makes this fight all the more even.

 

[Owarij]

I believe this fight to be pretty even without Itachi's MS, they are both incredible in combat strategies and their taijutsu, ninjutsu, and genjutsu are great as well. Although itachi is a bit faster and can weave handsigns faster than kakashi, kakashi could last longer as he has more chakra. They both also have sharingan, which makes this fight all the more even.

Kakashi can last longer and has more chakra? really incoorect , even sick itachi lasted longer than kakashi ever would

health itachi with no ms outlasts kakashi by miles

 

[Tendou00]

Ninjutsu is useless against itachi, he has yata mirror

yea but yata mirror is part of susanoo ,it hold with 1 of his arm ,he can't use it without susanoo.

thread said no mangekyou.

 

[Owarij]

yea but yata mirror is part of susanoo ,it hold with 1 of his arm ,he can't use it without susanoo.

thread said no mangekyou.

Yata mirror is NOT a part of sussanno...It's a spiritual weapon with no real form....Orochimaru was after them and he doesn't have sussanno...If itachi was to hold them in his hand, they would be small like any normal katana and shield....they aren't sussano weapons, Orochimaru has the third legendary weapon, sword of kusunagi