Kakashi vs Danzo

[BenjerminGaye]

And why not? that's like saying since hashirama never died against susano he can't be killed with a kunai even though he was about to kill himself with a sword.

All you did was prove my point.

Izanagi isn't based on how many times danzo (or any user for that matter) dies. Its an illusion cast upon oneself, giving the user the ability to redo anything they chose to do as long as its active. For danzo each eye is active for 1 minute therefore he can redo as much as he want for the duration of said eye. 11 sharingan eyes means he can do this 11 times.

It has nothing to do with him dying.

 

[Oblivionx]

All you did was prove my point.

Izanagi isn't based on how many times danzo (or any user for that matter) dies. Its an illusion cast upon oneself, giving the user the ability to redo anything they chose to do as long as its active. For danzo each eye is active for 1 minute therefore he can redo as much as he want for the duration of said eye. 11 sharingan eyes means he can do this 11 times.

It has nothing to do with him dying.

and i was talking about pressuring danzo to use izanagi. Since he can be killed with a simple kunai too, he will have to use izanagi for that too. Heck i think he did use it against sasuke when sasuke used simple shuriken or something. Although if you go back and count danzo's deaths, they are around 10 or 11. So may be rewriting once cancels it's effects and it's more like you can rewrite once within a minute? But obviously this is a secondary topic not related to this discussion.

 

[BLAZE]

Hebi sasuke will push danzo too.

Are you serious :lol

 

[BenjerminGaye]

and i was talking about pressuring danzo to use izanagi. Since he can be killed with a simple kunai too, he will have to use izanagi for that too. Heck i think he did use it against sasuke when sasuke used simple shuriken or something. Although if you go back and count danzo's deaths, they are around 10 or 11. So may be rewriting once cancels it's effects and it's more like you can rewrite once within a minute? But obviously this is a secondary topic not related to this discussion.

i really can't go further into this debate with you if you don't understand how izanagi works.

For example obito only used izanagi once yet his lasted 5 minutes and based off of konan's tech he would have 'died' countless of times.

I'd link individual pages but its best you Reread the chapter

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[NarutoX28]

For someone such as Kakashi, Izanagi is literally the last thing he should be up against in all honesty. Ten minutes of relentless battling in which Kakashi will have to exhaust his chakra through ninjutsu if he were to elude Danzo's attempts at binding his movement would cause Kakashi's strength to deteriorate significantly and render him useless within the latter half of the match. Sasuke in particular had Susano'o to deter all of Danzo's jutsu in addition to sheer willpower to overcome the exhaustion and defend against Danzo's attacks in spite of his physical condition while Kakashi is easily defenseless if he were to battle Danzo relentlessly since he lacks those advantages.

Lack of stamina is one of the greatest weaknesses when battling Danzo and Kakashi happens to be one of them. Kakashi's repertoire such as his profound ninjutsu expertise as well as his opportune usage of feints are mitigated by Danzo's Sharingan as well as Izanagi and would just further one of the inherent weaknesses Kakashi would have to endure when battling against Danzo.

Danzo wins overall.

 

[NarutoX28]

In that exact same scan you posted it showed Karin literally staying safe from it. :lol
And I stated he only needs to hold the wall up for a couple seconds so he can go underground to escape it.

I meant if Kakashi appeared under Baku.
He can jump upwards to slice him with Raiden.

Now that I think of it another option is countering it similar to how Sasuke countered it by shooting a Katon.
Kakashi can form a Suiton so that when Baku sucks it in it drowns.

I sincerely hope you know Kakashi is confirmed to have access to all basic elements including Katon.

 

[Oblivionx]

Are you serious :lol

yeah.

i really can't go further into this debate with you if you don't understand how izanagi works.

For example obito only used izanagi once yet his lasted 5 minutes and based off of konan's tech he would have 'died' countless of times.

I'd link individual pages but its best you Reread the chapter

You must be registered for see links

okay okay i got it. Still doesn't change anything since that wasn't the point under discussion.

For someone such as Kakashi, Izanagi is literally the last thing he should be up against in all honesty. Ten minutes of relentless battling in which Kakashi will have to exhaust his chakra through ninjutsu if he were to elude Danzo's attempts at binding his movement would cause Kakashi's strength to deteriorate significantly and render him useless within the latter half of the match. Sasuke in particular had Susano'o to deter all of Danzo's jutsu in addition to sheer willpower to overcome the exhaustion and defend against Danzo's attacks in spite of his physical condition while Kakashi is easily defenseless if he were to battle Danzo relentlessly since he lacks those advantages.

Lack of stamina is one of the greatest weaknesses when battling Danzo and Kakashi happens to be one of them. Kakashi's repertoire such as his profound ninjutsu expertise as well as his opportune usage of feints are mitigated by Danzo's Sharingan as well as Izanagi and would just further one of the inherent weaknesses Kakashi would have to endure when battling against Danzo.

Danzo wins overall.

Kakashi's stamina improved drastically in war arc. And he isn't using kamui here. The jutsu which exhausts him the most just like susano exhausts sasuke.
@bold, sharingan didn't help itachi who is miles ahead of danzo in perception.
Yes danzo most probably wins but this isn't a bad match up. Kakashi has his chances.



PS. if you guys really think war arc kakashi without kamui loses badly. Then you are saying any kakashi bar DMS loses to danzo. Because kamui isn't much of a help against 10 minutes of izanagi, in fact it exhausts him early. Heck even DMS will become debatable since that lasted about 10 minutes as well.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

yeah.

okay okay i got it. Still doesn't change anything since that wasn't the point under discussion.

it changes everything. You gotta go back to the drawing board and explain how kakashi beats it.

I.e. Pressuring him into using izanagi 10-11 times, whilst being able to defend himself from danzo's attacks.

Sasuke was forced to do it via susanoo as explained by obito towards the end of the chaper.

 

[Oblivionx]

it changes everything. You gotta go back to the drawing board and explain how kakashi beats it.

I.e. Pressuring him into using izanagi 10-11 times, whilst being able to defend himself from danzo's attacks.

Sasuke was forced to do it via susanoo as explained by obito towards the end of the chaper.

okay bro -_-