Kakashi vs 1 Naruto's clone (in chakra/bijuu mode)

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It's not anyone's fault that Kamui is OP.
Kakashi with Kamui - low difficulty
Kakashi without Kamui - mostly wins high difficulty IMO, but not all the time

Well based on that logic Kakashi can beat the SO6P.
 

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Honestly, if BM clone is as fast as the original, than it can just speedblitz Kakashi and rape him with mini TBB... and Kakashi will be helpless against speed like that.
 

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Overestimating Kakashi a bit here...datclone has solod kage level ninjas with ease in the past.

"Wtf are you serious? People are saying a SHADOW CLONE can beat Kakashi?"

....

Meanwhile in the manga:

a shadow clone has in fact stomped 3rd raikage, Muu, fought on par with Nagato and Itachi, helped immensely vs Madara... etc.
 

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kakashi wins ...

was this necessary?

but today i will get the opportunity to see some people who underrate kakashi
Kakashi wins? but please explain how
the stake isnt as fast as a fireball. whats wrong with you? the clone gets kamuid.

What proof do you have on the stakes speed? Anyway Naruto wins he speed blitzes Kakashi with a Rasengan to the face
 

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People are severely underestimating BM clone..is like saying kakashi beats BM naruto with low difficulty which is laughable at its best U_U
 

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Overestimating Kakashi a bit here...datclone has solod kage level ninjas with ease in the past.

"Wtf are you serious? People are saying a SHADOW CLONE can beat Kakashi?"

....

Meanwhile in the manga:

a shadow clone has in fact stomped 3rd raikage, Muu, fought on par with Nagato and Itachi, helped immensely vs Madara... etc.

no single naruto clone solo'd any edo ninja,even edo kimimaro and chiyo were found fighting the division when the edo tensei ended,while the last time they were seen,a km naruto clone was charging at them with a rasenshuriken.

The km clone that fought the raikage failed to graze him,it then got punked out of km,and dodai and the division protected it ling enough for it to talk to hachibi and find out 3rd raikage's weakness,by this time kabuto took over his body and naruto finally hit him,that's far from a solo,that clone would have been sliced if hr fough the raikage himself.

Muu dodged that clone without even looking,it was a combo from gaara and the clone where gaara used his sand to support it and allow them to hit muu,who would have ended that clone if it came solo.

Fight on par with nagato?LOL,crppled nagato solo'd km naruto himself v2 killer b like mere children.

Helped immensely vs madara?,hmm lets see,onoki raised the ground under madara,the clone attacked,ribcage susanoo bocked it,gaara used his lightened sand to pull madara out of his susanoo,the clone threw a rasenshuriken,it was absorbed,madara pulled down a meteor,the clone like the division ran away,while gaara and onoki stopped it,and it was still protected by dodai,madara sent a forest,kurama gave the clone enough chakra to destroy it,and then the clone ran out. Dosent seem like it helped so 'immensely' after all.
 

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Kakashi wins? but please explain how


What proof do you have on the stakes speed? Anyway Naruto wins he speed blitzes Kakashi with a Rasengan to the face

1. stop acting like naruto can blitz. his "speed" has been intercepted many times effortlessely. i dont see anyone overwank Ays speed the same way narutos speed is overwanked.

2. tobi shot a stake out his eye when a BM clone was a foot away from him with a rasengan. he only started releasing the stake when the clone was close.
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kakashi kamuid the clone before the stake hit the clone and he fooled tobi into thinking that its was him(tobi) that made the clone disappear.

stop the wank.
 

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1. stop acting like naruto can blitz. his "speed" has been intercepted many times effortlessely. i dont see anyone overwank Ays speed the same way narutos speed is overwanked.

Of course he can speedblitz Kakashi. Sasuke couldnt track A with his eyes, what makes you think that Kakashi would be able to track BM Narutos Shunshin, if its definietly faster than A's.
 

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Well based on that logic Kakashi can beat the SO6P.

We don't know. Someone as omnipotent as SO6P could probably do such a "trivial thing" as getting out of the other dimension on his own, somehow. His yin-yang jutsu that makes SO6P's imagination a reality would do. So no, based on this logic, Kakashi cannot beat the SO6P.
Besides, one can avoid getting kamuied in the first place, for example by obscuring Kamui's user view (that is, hiding himself so that Kakashi cannot see him) or using kage bunshins.

But it's pretty much a fact that once Kakashi manages to hit with Kamui, it's game over. Now when I think of it, Naruto's clone indeed has a chance of avoiding it, by creating more clones. I think that would pretty much result in Kakashi's loss. However, if Kakashi manages to kamui him before he creates clones (and we know that Kamui is fast enough to do it), then it's the other way around.
 
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1. stop acting like naruto can blitz. his "speed" has been intercepted many times effortlessely. i dont see anyone overwank Ays speed the same way narutos speed is overwanked.

2. tobi shot a stake out his eye when a BM clone was a foot away from him with a rasengan. he only started releasing the stake when the clone was close.
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kakashi kamuid the clone before the stake hit the clone and he fooled tobi into thinking that its was him(tobi) that made the clone disappear.

stop the wank.

I know maybe because Kakashi used Kamui before Obito duh. Anyway I hate both characters, I don't know why im debatin for Naruto but he is so far above Kakashi it's crazy
 

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Overestimating Kakashi a bit here...datclone has solod kage level ninjas with ease in the past.

"Wtf are you serious? People are saying a SHADOW CLONE can beat Kakashi?"

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Meanwhile in the manga:

a shadow clone has in fact stomped 3rd raikage, Muu, fought on par with Nagato and Itachi, helped immensely vs Madara... etc.

yes he "soloed" the 3rd raikage:
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as you saw, dodai got him the **** out of there twice.

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whats that. is it heavy prtection from dodai that we are seeing? yes it is. let me tell you that narutos rasengan wouldve failed epicly against an alive 3rd raikage. kabuto didnt know his weakness but the real 3rd raikage does.

yup he sure did stomp mu:
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wouldve gotten hit by jinton if it wasnt for gaaras sand. naruto straight up asked for help.

it was the real naruto that fought itachi and nagato.
 

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no single naruto clone solo'd any edo ninja,even edo kimimaro and chiyo were found fighting the division when the edo tensei ended,while the last time they were seen,a km naruto clone was charging at them with a rasenshuriken.

Does 3rd Raikage ring a bell?

The km clone that fought the raikage failed to graze him,it then got punked out of km,and dodai and the division protected it ling enough for it to talk to hachibi and find out 3rd raikage's weakness,by this time kabuto took over his body and naruto finally hit him,that's far from a solo,that clone would have been sliced if hr fough the raikage himself.

Actually if you look back at this page you would see the Rasenshuriken did knock him out the Rasenshuriken was also stated to not only damage the body but also the chakra circulatory system so it's like Neji's gentle fist it's impossible for the human body to overcome no matter how strong they are the only reason it didn't do that to the Raikage is because he dosen't have that due to being a edo tensei. Naruto never got punked out of km he ran out of chakra forming the TBB. They only distract him for secs besides there fodders what help are they?

Fight on par with nagato?LOL,crppled nagato solo'd km naruto himself v2 killer b like mere children.

Crippled Nagato didn't solo Naruto and Bee that was Prime Nagato Naruto only had a portion of his power in that fight.
 

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@genji no...just no

yes he "soloed" the 3rd raikage:
as you saw, dodai got him the **** out of there twice.

whats that. is it heavy prtection from dodai that we are seeing? yes it is. let me tell you that narutos rasengan wouldve failed epicly against an alive 3rd raikage. kabuto didnt know his weakness but the real 3rd raikage does.
Well considering when Naruto actually had knowledge he solod him...last I checked ET auto regenerates all damage so its not like all those fodder attacks accumulate and count for anything. and a SM Naruto clone solod him effortlessly.
yup he sure did stomp mu:
wouldve gotten hit by jinton if it wasnt for gaaras sand. naruto straight up asked for help.
That's like saying if Madar didnt use Preta against FRS he would have died and had no other counters. We saw in the next panel Naruto extend his hand and hit the unexpected Muu, he was solod.
it was the real naruto that fought itachi and nagato.
...a real Naruto with 6% chakra and would have had the exact same result if a clone was in his place
 

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Does 3rd Raikage ring a bell?


He had a lot of help from everyone in this fight.

Actually if you look back at this page you would see the Rasenshuriken did knock him out the Rasenshuriken was also stated to not only damage the body but also the chakra circulatory system so it's like Neji's gentle fist it's impossible for the human body to overcome no matter how strong they are the only reason it didn't do that to the Raikage is because he dosen't have that due to being a edo tensei. Naruto never got punked out of km he ran out of chakra forming the TBB. They only distract him for secs besides there fodders what help are they?

Damaging chakra system won't do anything on Edo. Edo regenerates himself so that he's always at full chakra and stamina. So no, Rasenshuriken did absolutely nothing in this scenario.



Crippled Nagato didn't solo Naruto and Bee that was Prime Nagato Naruto only had a portion of his power in that fight.

Prime Nagato? Prime Nagato that could not even move without help? Well...

Well considering when Naruto actually had knowledge he solod him...last I checked ET auto regenerates all damage so its not like all those fodder attacks accumulate and count for anything. and a SM Naruto clone solod him effortlessly.
That's like saying if Madar didnt use Preta against FRS he would have died and had no other counters. We saw in the next panel Naruto extend his hand and hit the unexpected Muu, he was solod.

...a real Naruto with 6% chakra and would have had the exact same result if a clone was in his place

Lol. If Naruto's clone would have been defeated without Gaara's help, then it means Naruto's clone did NOT solo anyone, geez.

As for Naruto with little chakra...
Kakashi, after wasting chakra on 7 swordsmen fought also against immortal jinchuuriki (wasting chakra) and then started to fight Tobi with others.
So by your logic it's as if it was Kakashi's clone fighting Tobi and not real Kakashi.
 
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@genji no...just no

Well considering when Naruto actually had knowledge he solod him...last I checked ET auto regenerates all damage so its not like all those fodder attacks accumulate and count for anything. and a SM Naruto clone solod him effortlessly.
That's like saying if Madar didnt use Preta against FRS he would have died and had no other counters. We saw in the next panel Naruto extend his hand and hit the unexpected Muu, he was solod.

...a real Naruto with 6% chakra and would have had the exact same result if a clone was in his place

raikage tanked those attacks because of his durable body, not because of edo. sm naruto soloed controlled 3rd raikage that had no mind of his own with knowledge.

we obviously saw that he needed gaaras sand as a platform. naruto didnt come close to soloing mu.

nope, the clone disappears after nagatos shinra tensei.
 

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He had a lot of help from everyone in this fight.

Like who? The only help I could remember is from that rubber guy who only helped him once for a few secs in that fight and from fodders.

Damaging chakra system won't do anything on Edo. Edo regenerates himself so that he's always at full chakra and stamina. So no, Rasenshuriken did absolutely nothing in this scenario.

I already said that next time fullying read my post before replying.

Prime Nagato? Prime Nagato that could not even move without help? Well...

No the Nagato that had red hair that fought Naruto and Bee.
 

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Of course he can speedblitz Kakashi. Sasuke couldnt track A with his eyes, what makes you think that Kakashi would be able to track BM Narutos Shunshin, if its definietly faster than A's.
In the contrary of Sasuke, Kakashi is a kage bunshin user. He always uses kage bunshins or kawarimi when he fights. If Naruto or A land a hit, he will most likely find that it was a KB or something. Also i doubt a BM clone has the same speed the original has judging by how easily Madara countered him
 

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In the contrary of Sasuke, Kakashi is a kage bunshin user.
Sure, but that clone can make KM clones on his own. And just becuase Kakashi can make clone doesnt change the fact that BM Naruto can speedblitz him.
Also i doubt a BM clone has the same speed the original has judging by how easily Madara countered him
If that clone has enough chakra to use BM and mini TBB, then I have no doubts that he can also use Shunshin on his normal level.
 

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Like who? The only help I could remember is from that rubber guy who only helped him once for a few secs in that fight and from fodders.

ANY help without which Naruto's clone would be defeated means that he did not solo.

I already said that next time fullying read my post before replying.

Ah, right. I've read it, but I guess I am too sleepy to get the whole point at first try, sorry. :p
Still, I don't think we can just say his chakra system would be damaged without any indication of that in the manga. Even if Rasenshuriken does it normally, Raikage's body is special, and chakra system is inside the body.
 

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raikage tanked those attacks because of his durable body, not because of edo. sm naruto soloed controlled 3rd raikage that had no mind of his own with knowledge.
I'm just saying if he took any damage whatsoever from that ET would have healed it. So Naruto clone vs Raikage when Naruto solod him was the same as full health raikage fighting him. you just supported my point more.

Why does that matter, it's not that specific weakness that he has anything to do with. If anything the smartest Naruto character would have deduced it but apparently he didn't. Raikage was too slow, his weakness is "his own jutsu", if he was living he would have just died instead
we obviously saw that he needed gaaras sand as a platform. naruto didnt come close to soloing mu
. Needed? You use this word too loosely, Madara would have died vs FRS without rinnegan too I guess.

nope, the clone disappears after nagatos shinra tensei.
Yeah...somethjing tells me you don't have the scans to support that
 
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