kakashi v.s obito

[Takos]

So all those times Kakashi nearly died and relied on Kamui and excessively on Sharingen, he was hiding some form of KG all along? Dun dun dun.

I used the word "awaken", didn't I?

Shelke shines with understanding once again.

 

[shelke]

I used the word "awaken", didn't I?

Shelke shines with understanding once again.

He's going to awake it when he's a 31 year old fart? Yes dude, unlike you, I always do. Thanks for the awesome compliment.

 

[Takos]

He's going to awake it when he's a 31 year old fart? Yes dude, unlike you, I always do. Thanks for the awesome compliment.

No, you don't. The fact that you initially believed I was talking about using KG, not activating it, proves it.

As for awakening it in his age, if Kishi wants to do it, he can do it. It was never stated that KG have to be awakened in teen years or something like this. Not even Madara was able to awaken Rinnegan as soon as he obtained Senju DNA, it took him a very long time to do it.

 

[shelke]

No, you don't. The fact that you initially believed I was talking about using KG, not activating it, proves it.

As for awakening it in his age, if Kishi wants to do it, he can do it. It was never stated that KG have to be awakened in teen years or something like this. Not even Madara was able to awaken Rinnegan as soon as he obtained Senju DNA, it took him a very long time to do it.

Really?

I believe Kakashi might awaken some hidden Kekkei Genkai (which would then be explained to also be used by his father when he was alive) that could help defeat Obito. No troll is needed.

Activating/awakening hidden KG? Is there a difference? KG's are available since birth and are unlocked at a very very young age. It's consistent across all clans. Stop making outlandish comments that don't support your logic. Thank you.

 

[Takos]

Really?

Activating/awakening hidden KG? Is there a difference? KG's are available since birth and are unlocked at a very very young age. It's consistent across all clans. Stop making outlandish comments that don't support your logic. Thank you.

You fully deserve the title of a hater.
They are not unlocked at a very young age, else Madara would have awakened the Rinnegan soon after obtaining Senju DNA, as Senju DNA was technically the only requirement for Rinnegan aside from EMS.

I'll let Narutopedia explain this better, maybe you'll grasp it:
"The Sharingan needs to be activated by the user when they are faced with a difficult circumstance[27] or placed under emotional stress."
And another one:
"Only a select few members of the Uchiha clan manifested the Sharingan."

What do we know from it?
1. There are conditions to awakening a KG and no matter how old one is, unless they are fulfilled, KG won't be awakened.
2. Not EVERYONE with potential to awaken a KG activates it.

So your theory (don't know where you got it, though. Probably from the same place you came up with Obito's intangibility, hm?) is generally baseless.

 

[ZabuzaMomichi]

Obito has more experience with HIS eye. So if It came down to it i am sure Obito has an advantage (sad to say). BUT... Kakashi is a better shinobi than obito. If they fought obito would win because it would come down to their sharingan

 

[shelke]

You fully deserve the title of a hater.
They are not unlocked at a very young age, else Madara would have awakened the Rinnegan soon after obtaining Senju DNA, as Senju DNA was technically the only requirement for Rinnegan aside from EMS.

I'll let Narutopedia explain this better, maybe you'll grasp it:
"The Sharingan needs to be activated by the user when they are faced with a difficult circumstance[27] or placed under emotional stress."
And another one:
"Only a select few members of the Uchiha clan manifested the Sharingan."

What do we know from it?
1. There are conditions to awakening a KG and no matter how old one is, unless they are fulfilled, KG won't be awakened.
2. Not EVERYONE with potential to awaken a KG activates it.

So your theory (don't know where you got it, though. Probably from the same place you came up with Obito's intangibility, hm?) is generally baseless.

Rinnegan is an inherited KG ability? Where do you get all this from, man? Only inherited KG sharingen ability are till MS for a sharingen. To upgrade it further, it requires more. Since the majoiry of Uchiha were ninjas, I can't see how they can not awak it at a young age? Obito for example didn't awake it through emotional stress, but Sasuke did, and at a younger age. He was 7 when he awoke it the first time. I already know the second point.

What does sharingen have to do with Kakashi? It's not his KG, nor did he unlock it. He can't get EMS unless he goes through the same procedure Madara, and Sasuke did. He can't awake rinnegan without getting EMS first. If you are talking about his own bloodline limit, then why haven't we seen it for so many years? Doesn't make sense to me.

And by the way, Sharingen KG points don't apply to other clans. Maybe you should look into those as well.

 

[shelke]

What do we know from it?
1. There are conditions to awakening a KG and no matter how old one is, unless they are fulfilled, KG won't be awakened.
2. Not EVERYONE with potential to awaken a KG activates it.

So your theory (don't know where you got it, though. Probably from the same place you came up with Obito's intangibility, hm?) is generally baseless.

Right, like with manga pages, and straight out of Kakshi's mouth you mean, the whole intangibility explanation? lol Still so hurt over Kamui points. Get over it. Kakashi's kamui is absurd compared to Obito's.

 

[Takos]

Right, like with manga pages, and straight out of Kakshi's mouth you mean, the whole intangibility explanation? lol Still so hurt over Kamui points. Get over it. Kakashi's kamui is absurd compared to Obito's.

Kakashi never stated anything you claim, but I'm getting hopeless again. It's you who's hurt over Kamui points. Make a thread about your "theory" unless you don't want to see how much people will laugh at it.

You did not accept the fact that according to your thesis, intangibility is a complicated process of using a jutsu in with amazing speed, something that COULD NOT POSSIBLY be done by Obito who used it in the same minute he obtained MS. That's one of a ton of arguments as to why your theory fails. I will not write once again all the others, as this isn't a proper thread for that. Make your own topic, as I said.

What does sharingen have to do with Kakashi?

It as a KG and it proves your theory:

KG's are available since birth and are unlocked at a very very young age. It's consistent across all clans.

to be wrong.

Sharingen KG points don't apply to other clans.

Lol, they're just a proof that KGs does NOT need to be awakened in the young years. In fact, they don't have to be awakened at all by some people.

KG's are available since birth and are unlocked at a very very young age. It's consistent across all clans.

This is what it proves wrong.

 

[shelke]

^ What are you babbling about? You mean this post:

Spoiler

I have never seen anyone as hard-headed as you. So he wraps his body to another dimension and doesn't bring it back? What the HELL are you even trying to accomplish here? To go to this lengths just to prove your point? It isn't theory, it's manga fact:

Kakashi: His jutsu to absorb objects and his jutsu to slip through things are both space time Jutsu. Note: NOT Jutsus, but a singular term.
Kakashi: Those parts of his body were overlapping with Naruto's body when he was slipping through. Meaning, he had warped his body into another dimension.
Kakashi: That way of thinking is a mistake; he's not transparent. It looked like your blow was slipping through him, but...The part that was over-lapping with your body was just moved to another dimension. In other words, the left part of his face your fist went through ... was simply existing in another dimension. Meaning, he only warps and unwraps parts of his body, yet he does it so fast that he looks intangible.

Continued: At roughly the same time, I sent my Kunai to another dimension as a physical object. When he launched himself forward to ...grab you, the kunai just finished vanishing next to his face. MEANING: Kakashi's Kunai hit him when he unwrapped his body and was trying to grab Naruto as he can't do so when he is slipping through.

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So according to you, he sends his body parts in the other dimension, but doesn't bring them back? How is he visible to the eye then? This isn't a theory, but an explained point. And by the way, I have posted it twice in another thread, and people with enough understanding of language and general grasp of understanding agreed. It's just your shortcoming as a monolingual that is causing all this.

You make stuff up, like how I said 'Obito is dodging Kamui with the speed of light' when I never even said anything along these lines. Same is the case with that Danzo thread. Pulling things out of places. The only one who is emotionally challanged over thread debates, is you. Get over yourself, and for the god, don't embarrass yourself any more. Your general comprehension skills are worse than my 5 year old cousin, and English is not even even my first language.

Do you even know what KG is? No Uchiha can unlock the sharingen if they don't have this in their blood. So why are you bringing people who don't have the capability to unlock any KG at all, regardless of their clan status. The point of discisson is only for those who can. And the majority - if not all going by my knowledge - have unlocked it in one way or another when they were young. Look at Ino, Shino, Kiba, Shikamaru. All of them can use their KG since a very young age. What is Kakashi's clan ability? I haven't even heard of this non-sense you are making up.

Stop wasting everyone's time, especially mine. Quote me only if you have something concrete. Don't bother otherwise, because you're just an annoying troll who accuses me of posting crap, when I have never posted anything without pages from the manga, and illustrating all the story of a discussed topic.

 

[Takos]

^ What are you babbling about? You mean this post:

Spoiler

I have never seen anyone as hard-headed as you. So he wraps his body to another dimension and doesn't bring it back? What the HELL are you even trying to accomplish here? To go to this lengths just to prove your point? It isn't theory, it's manga fact:

Kakashi: His jutsu to absorb objects and his jutsu to slip through things are both space time Jutsu. Note: NOT Jutsus, but a singular term.
Kakashi: Those parts of his body were overlapping with Naruto's body when he was slipping through. Meaning, he had warped his body into another dimension.
Kakashi: That way of thinking is a mistake; he's not transparent. It looked like your blow was slipping through him, but...The part that was over-lapping with your body was just moved to another dimension. In other words, the left part of his face your fist went through ... was simply existing in another dimension. Meaning, he only warps and unwraps parts of his body, yet he does it so fast that he looks intangible.

Continued: At roughly the same time, I sent my Kunai to another dimension as a physical object. When he launched himself forward to ...grab you, the kunai just finished vanishing next to his face. MEANING: Kakashi's Kunai hit him when he unwrapped his body and was trying to grab Naruto as he can't do so when he is slipping through.

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So according to you, he sends his body parts in the other dimension, but doesn't bring them back? How is he visible to the eye then? This isn't a theory, but an explained point. And by the way, I have posted it twice in another thread, and people with enough understanding of language and general grasp of understanding agreed. It's just your shortcoming as a monolingual that is causing all this.

You make stuff up, like how I said 'Obito is dodging Kamui with the speed of light' when I never even said anything along these lines. Same is the case with that Danzo thread. Pulling things out of places. The only one who is emotionally challanged over thread debates, is you. Get over yourself, and for the god, don't embarrass yourself any more. Your general comprehension skills are worse than my 5 year old cousin, and English is not even even my first language.

Do you even know what KG is? No Uchiha can unlock the sharingen if they don't have this in their blood. So why are you bringing people who don't have the capability to unlock any KG at all, regardless of their clan status. The point of discisson is only for those who can. And the majority - if not all going by my knowledge - have unlocked it in one way or another when they were young. Look at Ino, Shino, Kiba, Shikamaru. All of them can use their KG since a very young age. What is Kakashi's clan ability? I haven't even heard of this non-sense you are making up.

Stop wasting everyone's time, especially mine. Quote me only if you have something concrete. Don't bother otherwise, because you're just an annoying troll who accuses me of posting crap, when I have never posted anything without pages from the manga, and illustrating all the story of a discussed topic.

Too many fails to name them, so I'll bother with just a few:
1. Shikamaru, Choji and Ino do not use KG. xd It's Hiden, a type of ninjutsu passed down to a small group of people.

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2. Obviously we haven't heard of Kakashi having his own KG, but that's the point - it MIGHT be in his blood and MIGHT be yet to be awoken.

Stop wasting everyone's time, especially mine. Quote me only if you have something concrete. Don't bother otherwise, because you're just an annoying troll who accuses me of posting crap, when I have never posted anything without pages from the manga, and illustrating all the story of a discussed topic.

Oh, the irony.

 

[Bogard]

Kakashi has greater stamina than Itachi since he was able to fight during 2days sharingan activated, spamming huge techniques like Raikiri(something like 8 or 9times) or kamuis(4 or 5times) and still have energy to fight and even said he could still use kamui for few more times. In comparison, Itachi struggled in his short fight alone against Sasuke only using MS techniques 4times. I think that alone shows that Kakashi's stamina is greater. So with better control of his chakra, he maybe has a chance to win against Obito

 

[shelke]

The groups who possess these techniques are usually extremely secretive about them in order to ensure that no one other than the members of the group or clan learn them. As such, they are passed down through oral means instead of being written down or recorded. A few hiden techniques require a special ability or lineage and as such are usually the pride and fame of the clan that possesses them. The Nara clan's Shadow Imitation Technique and the Aburame clan's Parasitic Destruction Insect Technique are examples of this. These technique also cannot be copied through any means of simple observation.

Doesn't matter does it? And Hiden is as close to KG as it can get, going by that fact that it can also never be copied, only taught. By the way, this rubbing in doesn't suit someone like you. At least I accept when I am wrong. That is the whole point of discussion, which someone like you would never grasp. Still going on with Kakashi's KG?