Kakashi Using Obito's MS and Perfect Susanoo Makes Sense

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How is Kakashi using Obito's MS an asspull? It sounds like some people are mad. Obito is doing the same thing Itach did to Sasuke with Amaterasu and Hagoromo giving half of his powers each to Naruto and Sasuke. EDIT: Obito's Chakra is also helping Kakashi activating PS, so it further proves why he can use it

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Another "issue" people are talking about is Kakashi being able to use Perfect Susanoo without EMS. It was already shown that Indra was able to use Perfect Susanoo with only the MS, so why not Kakashi? (And no, this doesn't mean in any way Kakashi is the reincarnation of Indra)

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This is all just temporary, I don't get why people are so frustrated about this.
 
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When Itachi could not use perfect susanoo. It is BS that Kakashi a non Uchiha can

so yeah it is an asspull
 

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When Itachi could not use perfect susanoo. It is BS that Kakashi a non Uchiha can

so yeah it is an asspull

You only find it an asspull because Itachi didnt use PS? K lol, Obito's Chakra is inside helping Kakashi use that anyways sooo
 

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Normally,I'd agree but this chapter is just too laughable and ludicrous.
 

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No, it doesn't. He lacks EMS, he lacks Uchiha Blood, or Dna. Susano'o is even rare when one has Uchiha DNA. He pops in two eyes and goes PS instantly? If this isn't poor writing, then I don't know what is.

Well, Kishimoto sure proved one thing - Kakashi is nothing with Uchiha leftovers. Congratulations Kishimoto, for finally making that clear to everyone.
 

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No, it doesn't. He lacks EMS, he lacks Uchiha Blood, or Dna. Susano'o is even rare when one has Uchiha DNA. He pops in two eyes and goes PS instantly? If this isn't poor writing, then I don't know what is.

Well, Kishimoto sure proved one thing - Kakashi is nothing with Uchiha leftovers. Congratulations Kishimoto, for finally making that clear to everyone.

You obviously didn't read so...
Obito's Chakra is inside Kakashi, which is why he is able to use it. No one ever said you need EMS either, since Indra didnt and he used it.
 

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This is all just temporary, I don't get why people are so frustrated about this.

cause they cant use their brains it seems.. got to love them butthurts though lol
 

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Next minute Sasuke dies and gives his sharingan/rinnegan powers to Naruto, whom in turn dominates Kaguya with perfect susanoo/six paths mode ying yang ultimate attack
 
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You only find it an asspull because Itachi didnt use PS? K lol, Obito's Chakra is inside helping Kakashi use that anyways sooo

Not only that the fact, but the fact that he can use it on the spot. By the way Itachi not being able to use PS is a big problem in this context, becuase he is arguably the most talented Uchiha of all time, so yeah that is a big reason why it is an asspull.
Why has not Obito used Perfect susanoo to defend himself? You could say he was low on chakra, but Kakashi as well
 

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Not only that the fact, but the fact that he can use it on the spot. By the way Itachi not being able to use PS is a big problem in this context, becuase he is arguably the most talented Uchiha of all time, so yeah that is a big reason why it is an asspull.
Why has not Obito used Perfect susanoo to defend himself? You could say he was low on chakra, but Kakashi as well

Kakashi has probably been storing chakra in his body, and Obito as a spirit probably gave all the chakra he had to Kakashi. Both chakras together are probably enough. As for Itachi the only explanation I can make as to why he didnt use Perfect Susanoo is because his sickness could have affected him more when using it. As well as the fact his Complete Susanoo already had Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror.
 

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You obviously didn't read so...
Obito's Chakra is inside Kakashi, which is why he is able to use it. No one ever said you need EMS either, since Indra didnt and he used it.

Indra is from where the line started. Now you are paralleling Indra with Kakashi? When even his reincarnation couldn't awaken it this way?
 

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Lovely how Obito; Low on chakra, is able to use Kamui to transcend death, has enough to give Kakashi his eyes, and then together are able to manifest a Perfect Susano'o when even together their reserves should be insufficient for it. Also how they even got straight to that; No other forms. Just straight up Perfect Susano'o with amazing mastery with no prior skills with this technique.
 
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When Madara had gotten Hashirama's cells, Hagaromo quoted the Madara basically took Indra's Chakra and combined it with Ashura's Chakra. With this, it is said that Madar's Chakra had gotten a boost and allowed him to use Wood Release. Isn't it safe to say that Obito acquired Ashura's Chakra? He did in fact get a boost in his chakra and was able to use Kamui without damaging his eye. Therefore Obito had Ashura's Chakra. So when Obito's chakra went inside of Kakashi, maybe the Chakra of Ashura that he had went inside of him as well. Also when Obito had both MS after being recovered by Naruto, he could have easily used Susano'o if he was at one hundred percent in chakra. Although he had to borrow some from Sakura, it still left him with little chakra.

It was also said that Madara and Obito didn't have Amaterasu, but knew how to put out the flames. (Such as when Madara first got revived and Sasuke used Amaterasu on him. Madara instantly put the flames out. Then there was when Sasuke used Amaterasu on Obito when he first made eye to eye contact. Some people say he used Kamui to send it to another dimension, but Obito was the one who had been trained under Madara and learned forbidden techniques such as Izanagi. Maybe one of the other Uchiha techniques could have been putting out Amaterasu flames.) Also, the Susano'o is based off that person's power. Itachi's being genjutsu, he used the sword that seals you away or rather in a genjutsu for all eternity. Madara being more offensive, his Susano'o had two sides so that he could attack from either behind or in front of himself. It also wasn't shown that he could use Tsukuyomi nor Amaterasu. Sasuke mainly uses Amaterasu and never used Tsukuyomi, so his Susano'o was based off of that. The Susano'o that Kakashi wields could possible be Obito's in every aspect. Maybe because of his feelings towards Kakashi, he'd manifest a Susano'o with the same scar? Sasuke's Susano'o uses a crossbow which resembles his past when he and Itachi fought that animal beast thing.

(P.S: If Itachi passed on Amaterasu to Sasuke (A technique Itachi could use), Hagoromo passed on techniques to Sasuke and Naruto (Which Hagoromo could use), & Obito passed on his Mangekyou Sharingan with the powers (Which he obviously could use). How is it possible for Kakashi to be able to do this and Obito not being able to do this?
 
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When Itachi could not use perfect susanoo. It is BS that Kakashi a non Uchiha can

so yeah it is an asspull

That's because Obito had the sage's chakra, once you reach that level there is no limitations to what you can do.

Chakra>>>everything

Madara said it himself, the one with the most/powerful chakra is the strongest.
 
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