Kakashi stopped being op? LOL don't make me laugh.

[Aertes]

honestly in a high stakes 1 on 1 match kamui is a handicap to kakashi more than anything, everyone in the war is fighting together so the majority of nin have knowledge on it. were I a shinobi I'd try and force him to use it defensively with explosives or large scale jutsu, he may have 4 to 5 uses but this can be shortened to only one use by how big the object is he is transporting.

1 well coordinated attack can force him to over exert himself, causing him to end up on a hospital bed without ever being touched, kakashi is only OP when part of a 2 or more man squad, solo kakashi will have trouble focusing his eye to even execute kamui, don't get me started on him trying to kamui someone like Gai.

You are forgetting that kakashi, because he knows his weakness, doesn't rely much on kamui.He has so many tech. he can use for offensive and defensive purposes and only uses kamui as last resolution.In his fight with Kakuzu he didn't even have to use it,even though he was a formidable enemy.You cannot measure Kakashis power only with the kamui he has so many other strong jutsus.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Wasn't Kakashi already fodderized by a near blind and exhausted Sasuke? The faster technique is Susano arrow, this is a manga fact. And Kakashi doesn't have the speed to dodge the arrow, that's why he said he had to warp it away with Kamui. Manga fact.

Sasuke is fully healed and stronger than he was before. Kakashi would be demolished in record time.

P.S. 2 Kamuis would nearly empty Kakashi. It isn't a trivial jutsu to use as stated by the manga. Again, manga fact. Have a nice day though, fanboy.

Please stop being a typical uchiha fanboy.

Kakashi used Kamui 5 times before be restored by Kurama and thats a fact!!!!

Kakashi being near Kurama and receiving chakra (according to you) is not a fact, it's just your opinion. Show me the scan where it suggests kakashi was restored before Naruto grabbed kakashi's hand.

Please don't be blinded by your fanboyism.

 

[Forget Me Not]

you still act the stupid character but i don't mind

Lol, you sound so extremely dumb. Hey guys, I'm acting the stupid character now! Keep getting mad because I just pwned you, noob.

itachi when he use 3 amatrasu he was close to the death

What does Itachi have to do with this thread? Yes, Itachi was sick and doesn't have substantial stamina. This much is known.

sasuke when he fought itachi he used only 4 raikery and 3 katon and he was empty of the chakara

What in the world is chakara? Guys like you shouldn't be allowed on the base. When you learn to spell 6-lettered words like "chakra" please come back and argue your points. But for now, leave the arguing to the real experts. You've proven to be nothing more than an inarticulate fanboy.

 

[RockLee the Green Beast]

****ing idiot, no one is OP in this manga.

 

[Retsu]

You are forgetting that kakashi, because he knows his weakness, doesn't rely much on kamui.He has so many tech. he can use for offensive and defensive purposes and only uses kamui as last resolution.In his fight with Kakuzu he didn't even have to use it,even though he was a formidable enemy.You cannot measure Kakashis power only with the kamui he has so many other strong jutsus.

I'm not saying he's nothing without it, only trying to explain to the fanboys that he doesn't use it because it comes with just as many drawbacks as it does perks.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Kakashi cannot warp himself or bigger objects without the Kyūbi's chakra.[

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False.

This was before the Kyuubi handed him chakra. Kakashi warped himself.

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[EZQ]

Kakashi can use 5 kamuis without kurama

Kakashi can warp himself without kurama

Kakashi can warp 1/3 of a biju

Kakashi still OP, haters

 

[Forget Me Not]

Please stop being a typical uchiha fanboy.

Kakashi used Kamui 5 times before be restored by Kurama and thats a fact!!!!

Kakashi being near Kurama and receiving chakra (according to you) is not a fact, it's just your opinion. Show me the scan where it suggests kakashi was restored before Naruto grabbed kakashi's hand.

Please don't be blinded by your fanboyism.

Please re-read the chapter.

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This scan illustrates that directly receiving the Kyuubi's chakra "is a lot stronger than before." This means that it's stronger than the chakra he received from Kyuubi prior. If you go back a few chapters it also partially explains this.

It also says the only reason Kakashi was able to go to the other dimension and back was due to the Kyuubi's chakra.

This has all been explained in the manga. He isn't able to use it as much and it isn't CLOSE to being as strong previously as he said it's AT LEAST 3x times more powerful.

Kakashi is one of my favorite characters. After this chapter though it's clear that Kishi was trying to convey this point. It's about time to come back down to earth, guys. It's comfy down here! Now disperse, fanboy.

 

[EZQ]

FORGET ME NOT, i can't quote you, my computer is slow

Kakashi CAN warp himself without kurama's chakra, being almost dead, he was capable of warping himself. Look again the chapter "kakashi's decision"

Kakashi Can use kamui a lot of times without kurama.

 

[Retsu]

Kakashi can use 5 kamuis without kurama

Kakashi can warp himself without kurama

Kakashi can warp 1/3 of a biju

Kakashi still OP, haters

He can use up to 5, the bigger the object is, the less amount of times he has to use it.

he can warp himself, but without kurama if he tried that in a match he could get stuck in his own kamui, something he knows, which is why he avoids doing that.

1/3 of a bijuu is the maximum size he can transport, once he kamui's something that big be it an explosion or a jutsu, he is effectively out of the fight.

Kakashi is only OP when he has a ninja supporting him, 1 on 1 kakashi is not all that and a bag of chips, He's the perfect example of an OP guy that can still lose to ppl that aren't as OP as him, and I'm no hater.

 

[Aertes]

Lol, you sound so extremely dumb. Hey guys, I'm acting the stupid character now! Keep getting mad because I just pwned you, noob.



What does Itachi have to do with this thread? Yes, Itachi was sick and doesn't have substantial stamina. This much is known.



What in the world is chakara? Guys like you shouldn't be allowed on the base. When you learn to spell 6-lettered words like "chakra" please come back in argue your points. But for now, leave the arguing to the real experts. You've proven to be nothing more than an inarticulate fanboy.

Stop being such a d*ck and grow up.Not everyones first language is english.If that's so annoying to you get your ass in a base that isn't global.Don't insult other people because they can't spell a word right what are you 5 years old or something???And kakashi was never fodderized by Sasuke get your facts straight it is not the same thing to be on 1vs1 and to be on a fight that you actually have to protect someone.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

No he didn't. This is a dumb myth. In fact Kakashi being around Kyuubi the entire time was silently revitalizing him. Re-read the chapter.



The same Pain he was fodderized by?



What is Amatrasu and Tuskymui? Your spelling is atrocious. It makes it rather hard to take you seriously. Sasuke also has significantly higher stamina than Kakashi, for the record.



Only in your dreams. Itachi and Sasuke are both myriads stronger than Kakashi and it isn't even close.



Current Kakashi is still the same Kakashi. Once again re-read the chapter.

And this, my friends, is an example of a fanboy in denial. Life must have lost meaning for you once you figured out that Kakashi is still Kakashi, huh?

1. Where was it stated that Kakashi has been silently being revitalized by the Kyuubi? From what we've just read, it showed a picture of them clasping hands and that the Kyuubi actually made a reference as to HOW he gave him chakra at THAT time.

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So that point doesn't work.

And fodderized by Pain? Other than Jiraiya and Naruto, he's the only one to successfully even take out a BODY of Pain, and had to take on Deva Path. Of course Pain beats him, but Pain even stated himself that Kakashi would give him trouble

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Facing all six would have been a different story, but the fact of the matter is that he was up against the strongest path along with another path.

I'm afraid Pains opinion is greater than yours.

Kakashi has improved leaps and bounds. Whether it's by a larger chakra pool, having used Kamui a number of times, all after using a few lightning based techniques (Raikiri and whatnot) against the Seven Swordsmen, along with during the fight with Obito, BEFORE being handed chakra by Kurama, shows that his stamina has improved greatly. He's not quite top ten, but he's not nearly as weak as your playing him out to be.

And why attack him for his spelling? It seems like you're just trying to put yourself on top of someone else. How do you know he's not a kid or that English isn't his first language?

Also, as for that link you put up above, it's just a really ****ty translation.

*********** states this-

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Much more reliable. Sustaining can have a whole other meaning.

 

[Forget Me Not]

And why attack him for his spelling? It seems like you're just trying to put yourself on top of someone else. How do you know he's not a kid or that English isn't his first language?

Also, as for that link you put up above, it's just a really ****ty translation.

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Much more reliable. Sustaining can have a whole other meaning.

I had no idea the translation I read was slightly inaccurate. Regardless, I've already explained my stance on this matter.

And I'm attacking him for his spelling because of his annoying resilience and the fact that mostly everything he's saying is a strawman. He's bringing up Itachi and Sasuke now because he thinks I'm a fan of the characters or something so he's trying to attack them.

He also repeatedly says "acting the stupid character" despite having no fluid evidence in his statements at all. I'm glad that there's some logical Kakashi supporters though.

Furthermore, Kakashi *was* fodderized by Pain. He didn't even phase Pain that entire battle and he was only using two Paths. Saying that he could be troublesome in the future does not tantamount to him being a worthy opponent. Naruto held his own far better than Kakashi did with just SM. There is no evidence that suggests his stamina has greatly increased at all. In fact, this chapter only proves the contrary.

 

[Aertes]

I had no idea the translation I read was slightly inaccurate. Regardless, I've already explained my stance on this matter.

And I'm attacking him for his spelling because of his annoying resilience and the fact that mostly everything he's saying is a strawman. He's bringing up Itachi and Sasuke now because he thinks I'm a fan of the characters or something so he's trying to attack them.

He also repeatedly says "acting the stupid character" despite having no fluid evidence in his statements at all. I'm glad that there's some logical Kakashi supporters though.

Furthermore, Kakashi *was* fodderized by Pain. He didn't even phase Pain that entire battle and he was only using two Paths. Saying that he could be troublesome in the future does not tantamount to him being a worthy opponent. Naruto held his own far better than Kakashi did with just SM. There is no evidence that suggests his stamina has greatly increased at all. In fact, this chapter only proves the contrary.

Well allow me to disagree.
There is no part in any chapter that indicates that Kakashi was secretly being revitalized.Plus from what we 've seen to pass the kuubi's chakra Naruto has to make physical contact.There wasn't any physical contact between Naruto and Kakashi before Kurama grabbed him.And Naruto was really worried about Kakashi before Kurama gave him his chakra.If Naruto was revitalizing him he wouldn't have to worry about him.
Kakashi used much more jutsus and kamui in the war and in the fight with Obito than he used when he fought Pain.That indicates that either his stamina was increased or he gained better control of his chakra and of his MS.Either way it shows that he has improved from the Pain arc.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

kakashi's still op 1/3 a bijuu? Gedo mazo's head? thats still bigger than a human lol.
5 kamui's
1 raiden(lightening transmission)
1 earth wall
couple chidori's.
yeah he still kicks ass

 

[blackbird31468]

Kakashi can use 3 Kamuis' without kurama

Kakashi can warp 1/3 of a bijuu but it will take out all of his chakra

Kakashi's still kage level

not hating

Fixed.