Takos
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People seem to be stunned by the fact that Kakashi matches Obito in combat currently. Well, it's no surprise to me, because Kakashi is currently equal to Obito.
The most popular argument people use to justify Kakashi matching Obito is that Obito had exhausted himself with controlling junchuuriki, fighting Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi, etc. This, of course, is a valid reason, but let me present a rebuttal.
While it's true Obito has been weakened drastically from his fight against four people (well, duh), we should take into account some other factors as well:
To sum up:
-Naruto, Bee and even more Kakashi and Guy have been already after multiple fights when they faced Obito, who was fresh and ready to roll (and had Gedo Mazo, two immortal bijuus and five immortal V2 jinchuuriki)
-People claim Obito is now, against Kakashi, at disadvantage due to him fighting earlier several strong shinobi at once, but on the other hand Kakashi has been fighting for two days straight with no rest and Obito only for several hours at most. No disadvantage here for anyone, and if any, it's a very slight one.
-Intel DOES make a difference.
-Kakashi and Obito are the only known counters for each other.
Thus, it makes perfect sense Kakashi can match Obito now, since they ARE, in fact, equal. U_U
The most popular argument people use to justify Kakashi matching Obito is that Obito had exhausted himself with controlling junchuuriki, fighting Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi, etc. This, of course, is a valid reason, but let me present a rebuttal.
While it's true Obito has been weakened drastically from his fight against four people (well, duh), we should take into account some other factors as well:
1) It was hardly a 1vs4 fight with two full IMMORTAL bijuus and four V2 IMMORTAL jinchuurikis on his side, even if it was Obito who controlled them. Plus, have I mentioned a Gedo Mazo that pretty much soloed the whole division of Ninja Alliance? :erm:
2) The fight against Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi was Obito's first fight in the whole war. Meanwhile, Naruto and Bee have been fighting already for quite long, both against Zetsu fodder and powerful IMMORTAL shinobi like Itachi, Nagato and the kages. They also had no rest at ALL, as opposed to Obito. However, Kakashi is the main point of this thread, let's look at him, then. Kakashi and Guy have fought even LONGER than Naruto and Bee, because they've been thrown right into action from the very beginning of the war (and they have much smaller stamina than Naruto and Bee). Just to make my point clearer:
Kakashi has been fighting with no breaks (apart from the one for running from one battlefield to another, hardly counts) for two days straight, while Obito has been fighting for about several hours at most!
3) Obito's main strength was his Kamui, or to be more precise, keeping it in secret from his enemies. We could see on several occassions that this is what made him so much above everyone else.
-Obito said that Itachi could possibly beat him if he knew his secret.
-Konan, who had only partial knowledge on Kamui, was able to deal some massive damage to Obito and force him to use Izanagi to survive.
-Kakashi vs Obito fight is just another example of how intel is important; now that Kakashi knows Obito's secret (and he deserves credit for cracking it), he can match him.
Of course it doesn't mean Obito is weak once someone knows about Kamui. He's easily beyond kage level anyway, but... so is Kakashi.
4) Kakashi's and Obito's kamui versions nullify each other. That's correct, the only counter for Kakashi's Kamui is Obito's kamui. Similarly, the only counter for Obito's Kamui is Kakashi's. Only Obito can stop Kakashi's offensive Kamui and only Kakashi can still pose any danger to Obito when he uses his kamui for defence.
2) The fight against Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi was Obito's first fight in the whole war. Meanwhile, Naruto and Bee have been fighting already for quite long, both against Zetsu fodder and powerful IMMORTAL shinobi like Itachi, Nagato and the kages. They also had no rest at ALL, as opposed to Obito. However, Kakashi is the main point of this thread, let's look at him, then. Kakashi and Guy have fought even LONGER than Naruto and Bee, because they've been thrown right into action from the very beginning of the war (and they have much smaller stamina than Naruto and Bee). Just to make my point clearer:
Kakashi has been fighting with no breaks (apart from the one for running from one battlefield to another, hardly counts) for two days straight, while Obito has been fighting for about several hours at most!
3) Obito's main strength was his Kamui, or to be more precise, keeping it in secret from his enemies. We could see on several occassions that this is what made him so much above everyone else.
-Obito said that Itachi could possibly beat him if he knew his secret.
-Konan, who had only partial knowledge on Kamui, was able to deal some massive damage to Obito and force him to use Izanagi to survive.
-Kakashi vs Obito fight is just another example of how intel is important; now that Kakashi knows Obito's secret (and he deserves credit for cracking it), he can match him.
Of course it doesn't mean Obito is weak once someone knows about Kamui. He's easily beyond kage level anyway, but... so is Kakashi.
4) Kakashi's and Obito's kamui versions nullify each other. That's correct, the only counter for Kakashi's Kamui is Obito's kamui. Similarly, the only counter for Obito's Kamui is Kakashi's. Only Obito can stop Kakashi's offensive Kamui and only Kakashi can still pose any danger to Obito when he uses his kamui for defence.
To sum up:
-Naruto, Bee and even more Kakashi and Guy have been already after multiple fights when they faced Obito, who was fresh and ready to roll (and had Gedo Mazo, two immortal bijuus and five immortal V2 jinchuuriki)
-People claim Obito is now, against Kakashi, at disadvantage due to him fighting earlier several strong shinobi at once, but on the other hand Kakashi has been fighting for two days straight with no rest and Obito only for several hours at most. No disadvantage here for anyone, and if any, it's a very slight one.
-Intel DOES make a difference.
-Kakashi and Obito are the only known counters for each other.
Thus, it makes perfect sense Kakashi can match Obito now, since they ARE, in fact, equal. U_U
