Kakashi seriously cannot be stopped

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I edited my last post, please go back up and re-read.

I am a Kakashi fan but I realize his limitations. As I've said, he would have to resort to something else which he has plenty of other attacks at his disposal and he is great at analysis, he's fast, and good with taijutsu. Kamui is not his only attack nor should everything he does be based on this one single jutsu as you are doing now. Also,he is not an Uchiha, and the only reason he was able to istantly Kamui to the degree he did the last few chapters was becuase both eyes where in close proximity of each other. After Obito, Naruto, and Sakura were teleported to the Kamui dimension his original kamui feats returned.

Look at these thing objectively. Kakashi is not invincible. SMH over such a minor detail.

concernng susano'o, it has feats contradicting that statement. kakashi's kamui though? it has triumphed every single time.

i agree with the rest. kakashi is extremely versatile and his an amazing repetoire. kamui isnt his only technique, but it sure puts him up there with the very best due to its haxx.
 

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We don't know if Onmyodon was used or not...

P.S. Kakashi is going blind so his time's down-falling... But he's hell of a character.
And Kamui has proved a lot over-time...
 

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Kamui is a jutsu of Mangekyou Sharingan therefore the weakness of MS is the weakness of Kamui. It would also seem that when first using the technique, Kakashi didn't quite have the skill for it, hence why deidara dodged and it only got his arm. The more he has used it the better it had gotten but also the worse his eyesight. This is a weakness. The other is shadow clone or whatever other clone the sharingan can't see through. Kamui takes up a lot of chakra and he can't exactly spam it, sure he has used it a lot, but not over and over and over in quick sucession. If Naruto were to fight Kakashi, kamui would be useless, too many clones.
 

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We don't know if Onmyodon was used or not...

P.S. Kakashi is going blind so his time's down-falling... But he's hell of a character.
And Kamui has proved a lot over-time...

onmyoden is the black spheres madara has circling him. he used it as a shield vs gai's onslaught yet kakashis kamui put a nice hole through it.
 

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onmyoden is the black spheres madara has circling him. he used it as a shield vs gai's onslaught yet kakashis kamui put a nice hole through it.

So? Kamui warps space and time not the thing itself. The black balls have not been shown to erase space and time. It hasn't even been shown to erase chakra, only physical objects including jutsus that manifest physically (remember, with ninjutsu, one transforms chakra into a physical object like fire wood or what have ye so long as its physical, when its not physical its not ninjutsu). Kamui is space time not physical, therefore kamui can warp it.

Its not like it broke the rules, you just have yet to have seen them apply that way, it doesn't make the tech. invincible.
 
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So? Kamui warps space and time not the thing itself. The black balls have not been shown to erase space and time. It hasn't even been shown to erase chakra, only physical objects including jutsus that manifest physically (remember, with ninjutsu, one transforms chakra into a physical object like fire wood or what have ye so long as its physical, when its not physical its not ninjutsu). Kamui is space time not physical, therefore kamui can warp it.

you're missing the entire point. onmyouden was stated to negate ninjutsu and only senjutsu/taijutsu works. yet kamui, a classified ninjutsu according to databook worked fine. What does that tell you about kamui as a jutsu?
 

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onmyoden is the black spheres madara has circling him. he used it as a shield vs gai's onslaught yet kakashis kamui put a nice hole through it.

That I know very well, the point is that that black material isn't Onmyodon itself but is used in conjunction with the black material...

So, it's still unknown if it was Onmyodon at that time...
 

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lmfao at these post in this thread. no need for me to add on

ot- as you know this thread is false and pure fanatsy, kakashi didnt do it alone

This. Obviously Minato was there as well.
 

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just stands there? remind me who kamui'd onmyouden to give gai an opening?

remind me who kamui's madara's arm off?

remind me who allowed obito to enter the kamui dimension to save naruto's life?

sasuke? hashirama gives him a jutsu to counter senjutsu then gets one paneled by his own weapon. pfffft.

remind me about bolded too plz
 

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going blind isnt a weakness of the technique. its a weakness of the mangekyo. all im saying is Kakashi with kamui is virtually unstoppable.

no, kamui is all ranges as stated by the databook.

not so it can be countered by a kuni to the eye while try to use kamui, also this is a slow jutsu anything bigger than ball takes time to absorb, especially if its moving. This has happened every time he used kamui on an enemy because he doesn't know where they are headed the only time it seemed quick is when he kamui something small or he planned to that like with naruto's clone when they broke Obito's mask
 

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Sorry OP, but you are utterly wrong due to common misconception made by people with assuming Onmyoudon = Black stuff, which is WRONG.

Here is more detailed explanation why you are wrong:

Just read it ;)
 
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kamui has literally defied the odds. it has defied everything.

onmyouden stated to negate all ninjutsu, fell before kamui's might. therefore kamui would work on literally anything. couple this with its unstoppable speed of warp and kakashi becomes virtually unstoppable (if he chooses to use kamui, that is)

Kamui is also not some sort of Nature element or some Chakra manipulation. It is a space time jutsu that is literally creating portals that at their closure, dimensionally dissect things. It is like, the most powerful means of cutting in the universe i assume.

it is still ninjutsu, but it does not revolve around the regular cycle of ninjutsu, just like Doujutsu Sharingan/Byakugan does not belong to the same mechanics of other Kekkei Genkai like Storm/Scorch/Dust Tota and etc.

Uchiha are indeed very unique.
 

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I edited my last post, please go back up and re-read.

I am a Kakashi fan but I realize his limitations. As I've said, he would have to resort to something else which he has plenty of other attacks at his disposal and he is great at analysis, he's fast, and good with taijutsu. Kamui is not his only attack nor should everything he does be based on this one single jutsu as you are doing now. Also,he is not an Uchiha, and the only reason he was able to istantly Kamui to the degree he did the last few chapters was becuase both eyes where in close proximity of each other. After Obito, Naruto, and Sakura were teleported to the Kamui dimension his original kamui feats returned.

Look at these thing objectively. Kakashi is not invincible. SMH over such a minor detail.

Prime MS Kakashi solos.
 

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Kamui disappointed me this chapter I thought it would rip a hole in Madara, but he has to warp the chakra first.
 

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What makes even less sense is the fact that Kakashi never used Kamui on Madara, prior to warping Naruto and Obito...Logic is dead in Naruto...
 

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you're missing the entire point. onmyouden was stated to negate ninjutsu and only senjutsu/taijutsu works. yet kamui, a classified ninjutsu according to databook worked fine. What does that tell you about kamui as a jutsu?

It tells me that kamui works like it should, not that it is all powerful. Kamui is good but kakashi is not a god. Kakashi is low tier kage level at best. That is quite a feat but he cant beat every opponent. BTW kamui isnt that fast, he cant head snipe anyone who has a decent amount of speed. In fact speed isn't required to block it at all all you need is a wall or shadow clones. Beyond that, spaamming long range attacks will keep kakashi from focusing on his target and will force him to quit using it.

I will concede that it is ninjutsu, I was getting a bit mixed up, but saying that the black bals can erase all ninjutsu is cleary an overstatement by whoever said that. What i mean is that the black balls aren't the be all end all of techniques therefore kamui beating the black balls does not mean that kamui is the be all end all of techniques. It is like saying water is the best cuz it beats fire which beats wind which beats lightning etc. just because a technique A beats a seemingly strong technique B does not make the A technique the strongest because evry jutsu has a weakness. It is just a matter or finding it, it would seem the weakness of that particular version of the black balls is kamui, good luck trying to beat the speed balls thrown by madara. Kakashi even knew he couldnt kamui that. Kamui is too slow.
 
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