kakashi over current naruto with (logic)

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Naruto acts dumb but has his "genius" moments.

Current Naruto would destroy Kakashi & Sasuke at the same time without much difficulty.
 

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KCM Naruto = EMS Sasuke

BM Naruto >>>>> EMS Sasuke

Has sasuke effortlessly beaten bijuus? Or proved able to catch obito off guard? Blitzing across several mountains instantly? One attack rivalling 6 bijuu dama? Deflecting bijuu by growling? Above bijuu level growth? Easily stop an S-Rank level katon that can theoretically spiral forever? Nothing sasuke has shown in EMS can touch BM naruto.
Yea that's true but sasuke is on kakashi level an smarts but if he was around forr naruto fights and training he would op naruto even whit the fox. Because base sasuke can shut down the fox so in dis next fight between naruto and sasuke no bm or kcm so stop with that
 

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KCM Naruto = EMS Sasuke

BM Naruto >>>>> EMS Sasuke

Has sasuke effortlessly beaten bijuus? Or proved able to catch obito off guard? Blitzing across several mountains instantly? One attack rivalling 6 bijuu dama? Deflecting bijuu by growling? Above bijuu level growth? Easily stop an S-Rank level katon that can theoretically spiral forever? Nothing sasuke has shown in EMS can touch BM naruto.

I don't know why you guys are arguing, cuz this derailed the thread
 

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no you are not realizeing wat I'm saying by kakashi know everything than naruto is able to do so I'm pretty sure he has ways to conter his moves even if the fox does help
kakashi dont know about sage mode and his abilities.
 

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no you are not realizeing wat I'm saying by kakashi know everything than naruto is able to do so I'm pretty sure he has ways to conter his moves even if the fox does help

That's not true, naruto shits on kakashi from a great height
 

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Yea that's true but sasuke is on kakashi level an smarts but if he was around forr naruto fights and training he would op naruto even whit the fox. Because base sasuke can shut down the fox so in dis next fight between naruto and sasuke no bm or kcm so stop with that

It wasn't, that's an excuse, and two, Naruto wins in that scenario because of his Shadow clones, immense rasengans, rasenshuriken, and overall chakra and stamina. Also, are you serious? Kakashi's intellect transcends Sasuke's. He's not stronger, but in terms of intellect.. I've already established BM naruto effortlessly solos, I don't see what you don't get about that. Sasuke only 'nerfed the fox' when Kurama was not on any terms with Naruto whatsoever. Now, that they are practically connected, it's physically impossible. Second, BM Naruto is relativistic in terms of speed, he ran across a field of mountains in one panel. As for attack and defense, he has tanked Wood Dragon, which Hashirama used to bind Kurama, the one that was on par with Perfect Susano'o. and advent of a flowering trees, which is a multi-kage level attack and would have ****ed the kages if it wasn't for Onoki

More proof of his instant speed:

BM Naruto beats sasuke no difficulty whatsoever.
 

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He has analytical skills, but in comparison to other analyical shinobi he is lacking...Naruto is not mentally smart....your example of chakra transfering and jutsu usage is an example of his physical intelligence.. and sasuke in his three battles shows more intelligence mentally than naruto does in all of shippuden. i see your points, but you cannot compare naruto mentally to sasuke its not even close
  1. naruto understand principle of chakra transfer tech = mentally intelligence.
  2. naruto show in shipuuden his analytical skills in two battle... also naruto not use cheat eyes which improve analytical skills
 

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what ever op move throws at kakashi he wi kumui it tbb and all

All that is required is a relativstic blitz and a super kurama enhanced punch to solo Kakashi. This is coming from a huge kakashi debater, I have read all of his jutsu's databook pages and defend him all the time. Can you please post actual manga pages instead of talking out of your ass? Because right now, you have no argument, sorry
 

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It wasn't, that's an excuse, and two, Naruto wins in that scenario because of his Shadow clones, immense rasengans, rasenshuriken, and overall chakra and stamina. Also, are you serious? Kakashi's intellect transcends Sasuke's. He's not stronger, but in terms of intellect.. I've already established BM naruto effortlessly solos, I don't see what you don't get about that. Sasuke only 'nerfed the fox' when Kurama was not on any terms with Naruto whatsoever. Now, that they are - practically connected, it's physically impossible. Second, BM Naruto is relativistic in terms of speed, he ran across a field of mountains in one panel. As for attack and defense, he has tanked Wood Dragon, which Hashirama used to bind Kurama, the one that was on par with Perfect Susano'o. and advent of a flowering trees, which is a multi-kage level attack and would have ****ed the kages if it wasn't for Onoki

More proof of his instant speed:

BM Naruto beats sasuke no difficulty whatsoever.
you must be naruto fanboy huh
 

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  1. naruto understand principle of chakra transfer tech = mentally intelligence.
  2. naruto show in shipuuden his analytical skills in two battle... also naruto not use cheat eyes which improve analytical skills

Chakra transfers are done physically. not mentally. he may understand them, that might be the only mental aspect of it, but the transfer is done physically... naruto is an uzumaki, meaning he is on the younger sons side of the family, indicating physical intelligence not mental. stop...naruto is no where near as smart as you are making him seem.
 

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what ever op move throws at kakashi he wi kumui it tbb and all

kakashi can't kamui anything that big without naruto's help, so please tell that lie to someone else, it holds no relevance with me.

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All that is required is a relativstic blitz and a super kurama enhanced punch to solo Kakashi. This is coming from a huge kakashi debater, I have read all of his jutsu's databook pages and defend him all the time. Can you please post actual manga pages instead of talking out of your ass? Because right now, you have no argument, sorry
I don't know how to post scans but I'm going to throw you a rep because your a good debater but I'm over dis thread now
 

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The highest kamui kakashi has shown is is transporting Gyuuki. What's funny is this kid honestly thinks kakashi is able to warp BM TBB, which is casually several mountains. If you scaled gyuuki to a mountain, he would be dwarfed.
 

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Kakashi Over any naruto I say this because kakashi knows all of naruto moves his Fighting style kakashi would kill naruto at any time even if naruto is stronger than him he's not smarter than him kakashi knows watt to say to make him lose it and we all know u must keep your cool in battel

This post has no logic, sorry to say.
Intelligence doesn't get you so far in situations where the power gap between you and the other person is huge.
Even if kakashi know's all of Naruto's moves, he can only do very very little.
The only logical conclusion to this battle is: Naruto stomps low diff.
 
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