Kakashi on his own is Sh*t

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LOL, top 3?!

A chapter where Kakashi fails in his task and suddenly threads about him everywhere? Well here's mine- he's not that great. Kamui against a lot of opponents (never made the top 10) isn't an instant solution to most 1v1 in actual combat.

Kakashi will be in hospital if he tries using it so recklessly. People with abilities and the stamina to actually use them crush Kakashi. It's a strong long-range move but when he fails (like in todays chapter and when against Obito) he's in trouble. Using it just once uses about 1/3 of his chakra in one go like a fool. He's like a drinking lightweight trying to do Whiskey shots and it in no way makes him god-like like people claim. It's not instant. It's not game-ending. It's basically just what rasen-shuriken used to be: a really hyped up move everyone freaked out over that Naruto could only use about 1-2 times before dying but then in reality most enemies survived.

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Obito was more skilled with it and nobody gives him such credit. In just one attack that could hit or miss (because it's not THAT fast really) Kakashi loses 1/3 of his chakra that he could've used on his large moveset of jutsu or stayed alive for a few more minutes in battle. That's a REALLY bad battle plan and everyone else had to cover him a lot in the early stages of the Guy/Naruto/Bee/Kakashi VS Obito fight.

What would've happened if he was alone here against such a strong opponent?

He'd be caught out of breath and chakra defenseless temporarily unless someone gives him his asthma pump. Without backup (like he constantly had against Deidara, Kakazu, Obito & Gedo) Kakashi cannot risk even using it unless he is 1000% sure he can hit. What happens in actual situations he uses Kamui?

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Ouch.

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Woops.

Kamui is only strong with the Kyuubi cloak (at least 3 times stronger) and without that cloak, it's borderline unusable as an actual strategy for someone like Kakashi.
 

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I didnt read, only because i agree with you. Kakashis Kamui is over rated. Itll be the death of him
 
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You do understand that the size of Kamui is proportional to the amount of chakra it takes, correct?

And that Kakashi can change the size at will, right?

So theoretically what if he just Kamuis a hole in your chest or your neck or your head? Lol is 1/3 of his chakra exhausted then? And considering the fact that he's used Kamui twice now since returning and only showed signs of fatigue the panel after he used it and nowhere else makes you sound a little butthurt.

Besides Kakashi is so much more than Kamui, you're talking like his entire move set is predicated around it. He fought Kakazu and Hidan by himself and almost killed Deva path w/o Kamui yet you claim he is shit by himself.

Stop.
 
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Kakashi no kamui kadai hyoka sa re
 

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yea a half dead obito who cant move a muscle, kakashi is so tough

Who gives a shit. Kakashi also beat him in the Kamui dimension. Keep coming with excuses to defend your boy, but Kakashi is far from shit on his own.
 

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^^^^^^
Kakashi has more than enough stamina/chakra to abuse Kamui.97% of the characters in the series can't dodge it.
 

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Kakashi >> your fav









 

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You do understand that the size of Kamui is proportional to the amount of chakra it takes, correct?

And that Kakashi can change the size at will, right?

So theoretically what if he just Kamuis a hole in your chest or your neck or your head? Lol is 1/3 of his chakra exhausted then? And considering the fact that he's used Kamui twice now since returning and only showed signs of fatigue the panel after he used it and nowhere else makes you sound a little butthurt.

Besides Kakashi is so much more than Kamui, you're taking like his entire move set is predicated around it. He fought Kakazu and Hidan by himself and almost killed Deva path w/o Kamui yet you claim he is shit by himself.

Stop.


This^

Unlike Obito,

Kakashi isn't a one trick pony whining about his 13 year old lost love. Nor is he an Uchiha. You are comparing a jutsu that isn't designed for him against the almighty god clans of the Narutoverse. Kakashi is more than just Kamui, you sound upset because he isn't goku or Hashi or some BS. He isn't a god teir shinobi yet manages to hold his own against said opponents. Not every fighter needs to be able to beat someone one on one as Shonen Jump mangas like to portray. And his Kamui DID work this chapter. It's not his fault that Madara summoned it away before he could Kamui the whole dang statue. He did get its arm though. Thread=Failed go b**ch to someon else and :stfu:
 
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Minato, my hero <3

and nah I don't care about petty fandom rivalries, that's your area. I like Kakashi, just not the left eye Kamui.

I can see your liking for him; you calling him shit reflects dat so well :cool:

Oh you.
 

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Minato, my hero <3

and nah I don't care about petty fandom rivalries, that's your area. I like Kakashi, just not the left eye Kamui.

I can see your liking for him; you calling him shit reflects dat so well :cool:

Oh you.
 

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I can see your liking for him; you calling him shit reflects dat so well :cool:

Oh you.

Nah man, I love that bells stuff. Him lecturing Sasuke after he pinned him to that tree was boss, plus he makes Movie 3 watchable. Everything written in this post still stands tho. Trust NB to make this into an Obito/Kakashi thread.

That post of yours must've been so funny to you that you felt the need to post it twice. Don't worry man that's cool.
 

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This^

Unlike Obito,

Kakashi isn't a one trick pony whining about his 13 year old lost love. Nor is he an Uchiha. You are comparing a jutsu that isn't designed for him against the almighty god clans of the Narutoverse. Kakashi is more than just Kamui, you sound upset because he isn't goku or Hashi or some BS. He isn't a god teir shinobi yet manages to hold his own against said opponents. Not every fighter needs to be able to beat someone one on one as Shonen Jump mangas like to portray. And his Kamui DID work this chapter. It's not his fault that Madara summoned it away before he could Kamui the whole dang statue. He did get its arm though. Thread=Failed go b**ch to someone else and :stfu:

True as phack. Kakashi never whines about Rin unlike Obito, nor about his father's suicide. He's a toughened badass.
 

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Kakashi should've got taken out with the fodders during Madara's rampage. His chakra level is so low, even Sakura can take him on without even breaking a sweat.

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Wow this underestimation is insane. You have a very biased perspective.
 
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