[Predictions] Kakashi Obito Tobi Madara connection (:

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Originally Posted by Oden
I wanted to comment on a few things. If you have seen my previous posts I have mentioned that Madara's (Tobi's) and Kakashi's MS seem to be related, because they both open different dimensions. Madara and Kakashi also have have their MS in opposite eyes, which makes me believe that each has one of the same pair. The only way that could happen is if they both came from the same original head. Obito. He is some how connected to this.

I think that my prediction holds ground because Madara has never fought back against anyone and he uses some type of space time jutsu. Kakashi has used his jutsu to open dimensions to suck things in. One is passive the other aggressive. So if they are sharing a set of eyes then Madara has the genjutsu eye and Kakashi has the ninjutsu eye.

Now to my point, If Madara orders around Pein then he most have some leverage. Maybe he knows where the 'real Pein' is, in some other dimension. And only the all tailed beasts can set him free and Madara is the master mind with his own agenda. With all that said Kakashi is going to place a huge role in beating Pein because I don't think Kakashi was using a finished jutsu against that 'Art is a blast' dude.

On a side note as cool is Pein is Naruto is going to beat him because he has the same general ability with enough shadow clones to summon frogs and watch his back at the same time. "It is like looking left and right at the same time." I can't wait for next week...



that's me now:)



Yeah, this is it!
The connection Obito - Tobi ( tobitobitobitobi etc. )
makes sense now,
That's why Madara called himself Tobi - cause he owes Obito's left eye :)
And as a bunch of people said before, Kakashi obtained his MankegoyuSh.
"from a close friend, who he lost" (ham, that's very symbolical in real life lol) - Obito gave him his right eye. And shortly after, was crushed by a Rock. What happened to his Left eye?

And we know Madara had ordinary MS when dealing
with the 9Tails, he was loosing his eyesight at that time,and he needed an eye,
to make his Mankegoyu Sharingan stronger and everlasting, so
he stole Obito's, that's the only explanation of their connection. ok.
But If true,How?? Obito's supposed to be crushed by a rock, his other eye too :D!


This Is obvious now (Madara has Obito's left eye) but I wonder how he got Obito's eye?
There's no proof,but No one saw Madara's Mankegoyu! so if it looks like this , like
Kakashi's- lool

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About who's d master of who-

They both have same goals - Pain 'nd Madara!
Madara-Destruction of Konoha (only?)
Pain- Destruction of some of the world ,so,after, the people should feel
the Pain and Remorse, and eventualy they'll feel the Buddhist compassion
and then world peace bla bla, etc.

And until their goals are the same It does not matter who obeys who :)
But after - perhaps everybody has plans 4 d other,
although, It's obvious that Madara uses Pain, as
he uses Sasuke (or Does he? killer bee clone thing, etc.?)


About the paths-

U know, 7 is a holy number in Japanese culture,
and the "Paths of Samsara (pain)" are six material (yeah,even the ghosts!), and
there is one celestial, which always is self-understood by
philosophers, and needs no mentioning anywhere!

I think Nagato ( lol "the real pain" lol ) is the seventh path,
which is u could call it "Pure energy" or "Ghost energy" etc.,
which controls the other paths.
And there in example goes
all the info, gathered from the 12 rin'negan eyes,
from there comes all the commands to the paths,
e.g. the brain

What d u think?


(pooh so long!)

:)
 
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good work with the info in the paths and stuff. but i seriously cant agree wih the obito is madara stuff and i tired prove that madara is madara and obito is dead i not going to try and do it again
 

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Well, no Obito's not Madara! Just
Madara calls himself tobi cause he took Obito's eyes,
ofcourse they're different persons, the common thing is
the eyes (I can't Imagine another explanation for the
connection, but pls, Madara is NOT Obito)

perhaps I posted too much words In my post,
cause it's too unclear 4 me 2

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Not to be a ****, but the whole ''Tobi-Obito'' wordplay thing has been discussed 100 times.
It's already been stated by Kishi [Weather the interview was fake or has yet to be seen] that Tobi is Madara.
Like I said before, why would Madara want Obito's eye?
Not only were there like a million other, better choices at the time, why would he even need a new eye?
He had EMS, meaning that his Sharingan was eternal.
Unless his eyes got poked out [Which is possible] when he was fighting Shodaime, I don't see a reason why he would need a new eye.
And not only that, why wouldn't he get someone with 2 eyes?
It's not like there weren't a ton of Uchiha walking around Konoha with 3 Tomoe [Sasuke's father?]
And just because Kakashi and Madara have sharingan's on different sides of there face means nothing.
If, Madara needed an eye, he could have put it on his right side or his left.
Just because he [Supposedly] took his right eye, doesn't mean he had to put it on his right side, he could have put it on his left as well.
And another thing, How could Madara use Obito's other eye?
It was crushed by a giant ass bolder!
There's no way the other eye survived, even Obito stated ''My whole right side is crushed''
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The fact that both Madara and Kakashi have space/time jutsu's means nothing.
It's known that the sharingan is a space/time Dojutsu.
Itachi's MS had space/time jutsu's [Tsukuyomi], Kakashi's MS has space time jutsu's, Madara's MS [Supposedly] has space/time jutsu's, and who knows with Sasuke, he'll probably unlock a space/time jutsu down the road as well.
The only reason Madara never fought back is because he never had a reason to.
When Madara encountered Sasuke, he didn't fight him because he needed Sasuke for his plan.
When Madara encountered Team Kakashi, he didn't fight back because he got word that Itachi and Sasuke had finished fighting, so he had to leave in order to collect there bodies.
If Madara ever had to fight, he would, he just hasn't needed to yet.
Also, if Kakashi and Madara had Obito's eyes, then wouldn't they have the same pattern?
If Madara's space/time jutsu was part of his MS, then we would have seen his MS pattern and it would have been identical to Kakashi's.
I'm sorry, but Madara is Tobi and Tobi is Madara.
Case closed.
 

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Of course Tobi is Madara :D
And you have a Goood point of course!

But I know that. I just wonder, why the hell did Kishi connect them, it's
not a mere coincidence :)
 

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Of course Tobi is Madara :D
And you have a Goood point of course!

But I know that. I just wonder, why the hell did Kishi connect them, it's
not a mere coincidence :)
Yea, your right, it can't ALL be a coincidence, There no doubt is SOME kind of a connection SOMEWHERE, but as of right now, I really can't say.
 
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