Kakashi killed Rin for good reasons.

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the why obito say to kakashi you let rin die if he saw him kill her?
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Isn't it pretty obvious that he saw them??
My guess is that Obito knew that something was wrong with Rin,I don't think Obito believes that Kakashi killed her for the fun of it,he said that to him cause he believes that Kakashi should have found a better resolution rather than to kill her.
 

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srls,I believe that madara took control of Rin and set the whole thing up so Kakashi would kill her in front of Obito.That way he could use him easier.Obito is an uchiha and he needed him as a backup plan...Madara had implanted rinnegan to Nagato but he couldn't be sure that Nagato would come to his side...That's why he needed another ally who could take the rinnegan.
I think Madara had some play in it too. It's not a coincidence that Kakashi happened to kill Rin at that moment so Obito/Kakashi could awaken MS. He could have been involved in whatever experiments the Mist had going on.
 

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Isn't it pretty obvious that he saw them??
My guess is that Obito knew that something was wrong with Rin,I don't think Obito believes that Kakashi killed her for the fun of it,he said that to him cause he believes that Kakashi should have found a better resolution rather than to kill her.
then why the need for Madz to put genjutsu on them to make obito believe kakashi killed rin if obito knew there was a reason behind it?
 

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then why the need for Madz to put genjutsu on them to make obito believe kakashi killed rin if obito knew there was a reason behind it?
I never said that he put them under genjutsu.I said that Madara manipulated the whole situation to gain Obito's loyalty.I can't believe that Obito thinks that Kakashi just killed her without a reason.What does he believe?That Kakashi went "Oh Rin let me check if chidori works...Oh nice,pierce right through your heart,great tanks for the help Rin."
If that was the case he would have killed him when he was unconscious.Imo Obito knew that Rin may have been involved in something and Kakashi had to kill her.But in Obito's mind Kakashi should have placed Rin above everything and protect her.That's why he told him that I will make a world that people like you won't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves.
 

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This is kind of why ninjas aren't supposed to have emotions especially on missions. Obito who's in love with Rin puts her above anything else. When he saw Kakashi kill her, he didn't think that it "Oh that's not right, Kakashi's a good guy" but instead, he let his emotions get the better of him and consume him. Another reason is emotions can be used against you so Madara took the opportunity to use his love for Rin to get Obito on his side.

I'm not saying emotions are bad or anything though! I love love lol
 

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This might be a little far-fetched theory, but I think everyone expect Kakashi was a Zetsu clone. It was all part of Madara's master plan, first he purposely made Zetsu tell Obito about how Kakashi and Rin are in danger, then other Zetsu helped Obito to get there, and when Obito finally arrived to the battle field, he saw Rin being killed by Kakashi. This way Madara could easily manipulate Obito to help him in his goals. There are still flaws in the theory, but simply put Madara was behind the incident. And what makes this more plausible is the fact that it's yet to be explained in manga, why? Because it would bring a twist to the plot -> Obito betraying Madara.
 

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This might be a little far-fetched theory, but I think everyone expect Kakashi was a Zetsu clone. It was all part of Madara's master plan, first he purposely made Zetsu tell Obito about how Kakashi and Rin are in danger, then other Zetsu helped Obito to get there, and when Obito finally arrived to the battle field, he saw Rin being killed by Kakashi. This way Madara could easily manipulate Obito to help him in his goals. There are still flaws in the theory, but simply put Madara was behind the incident. And what makes this more plausible is the fact that it's yet to be explained in manga, why? Because it would bring a twist to the plot -> Obito betraying Madara.
Then we're left with the problem of what actually happened to Rin. If it turns out she died on another mission, it wouldn't make Obito any less upset. He'd still blame Kakashi/war/violence etc and his end goal would remain the same. Whereas your theory is plausible, it creates so many plot holes.
 

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This might be a little far-fetched theory, but I think everyone expect Kakashi was a Zetsu clone. It was all part of Madara's master plan, first he purposely made Zetsu tell Obito about how Kakashi and Rin are in danger, then other Zetsu helped Obito to get there, and when Obito finally arrived to the battle field, he saw Rin being killed by Kakashi. This way Madara could easily manipulate Obito to help him in his goals. There are still flaws in the theory, but simply put Madara was behind the incident. And what makes this more plausible is the fact that it's yet to be explained in manga, why? Because it would bring a twist to the plot -> Obito betraying Madara.
Everyone was zetsu clones except from Kakashi??And Rin??So...were is the real Rin right now??
 

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Then we're left with the problem of what actually happened to Rin. If it turns out she died on another mission, it wouldn't make Obito any less upset. He'd still blame Kakashi/war/violence etc and his end goal would remain the same. Whereas your theory is plausible, it creates so many plot holes.
Unexplained things doesn't mean that it's a plot hole, the same thing happened with Tobi=Obito theory <-- ''Tobi is not Obito, too many plot holes''

Everyone was zetsu clones except from Kakashi??And Rin??So...were is the real Rin right now??
Killed before that incident, Kakashi was fooled in a way or another.
 

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I have a feeling that after Madara died, Obito found out about the truth of Rin's demise since he controlled the Mist Village afterwards, he may have initially thought Kakashi killed Rin out of malice but it was actually caused by some jutsu used on Rin that would make her an intelligence leakage of Konoha against her will, that is why the Mist ninjas were so desperate to retrieve her body saying "we worked so hard on it". And based on Rin's character, I'm more inclined to think that she asked Kakashi to kill her so she would not betray the Leaf, albeit involuntarily.

I also have a hunch that Madara was behind what those Mist ninjas did to her, in order to faciliate Obito's fall to the dark side. Obito could've found this out later when he was controlling the Mist and thus became distrustful of Madara ever since.
 
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You also have to wonder why those Zetsus informed Obito of what was happening with Kakashi and Rin, it's not really their character to be benevolent and help someone out of concern, they are, first and foremost, agents of Madara. I think the incident was expertly calculated by the old man.
 
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