Kakashi & Jiraiya >>> EMS Sasuke

[Kazekage35]

Your sig is funny

How is that funny? That's the love of my life scoring a game winning goal for my beloved country on our way to the gold medal game... which they won

 

[Sasuke1025]

Just because he sees them coming doesn't mean he can do much. He can sense them but he will have to dodge multiple living things

That's ru it'll b hard especially if he's fighting Kakashi and jiraya cuz hell get distracted but if he does c the he doesn't have 2 dodge them he can simply use chidori nagashi

 

[KONOHA FLASH]

Those statements were both false. My IQ is well over 70 therefore I am not retarted and also I'm not a skunk because I am in fact human. Go kill yourself

Not making fun of you at all but your IQ is defiantly above 70 because that is borderline mentally handicapped.

 

[al3xsmith13]

That's the issue here. We don't know EMS Sasuke's moves. We know EMS > MS, but we are still unsure of what it does. We know Sasuke now has an upgraded Susanoo and so far that's pretty much it. We were hoping to see something amazing against Kabuto, but that was Itachi's game. Kishi gave Itachi his redemption fight and he deserved it IMO. It's clear that he's saving Sasuke's power up for later when he'll be faced with a stronger opponent.

And here my simplest reason as to why Sasuke would stand a chance to win against those two: Kishi stated in interviews numerous times that Naruto and Sasuke are evolving equally. They've always been close in power in the manga and I don't think this will be any different. I mean they're supposed to die if they face each other...that's how balanced they are. So Sasuke's stronger than people give him credit at the moment.

By EMS we know that its his MS moves heightened and he can use them with more ease. I understand how we cant assume his other abilities until shown, but from all his EMS displays in the kabuto fight (although very few) I still believe jiraiya and kakashi would win. And i also understand how naruto and sasuke have and will always remain equals in a sense. But even so the match up is in the favor of kakashi and jiraiya.

 

[Kazekage35]

That's ru it'll b hard especially if he's fighting Kakashi and jiraya cuz hell get distracted but if he does c the he doesn't have 2 dodge them he can simply use chidori nagashi

True, but could he use Chidori in Susano'o?

Not making fun of you at all but your IQ is defiantly above 70 because that is borderline mentally handicapped.

I know that was the joke haha. He said I'm retarted but if your IQ is under 70 you are mentally retarted which I said I'm not haha. The joke, my IQ is well over that meaning I'm not retarted haha

 

[KONOHA FLASH]

I agree. I think experience and intelligence is a big factor in this match up

 

[Kazekage35]

I agree. I think experience and intelligence is a big factor in this match up

I agree too. Welcome to the base by the way

 

[KONOHA FLASH]

True, but could he use Chidori in Susano'o?



I know that was the joke haha. He said I'm retarted but if your IQ is under 70 you are mentally retarted which I said I'm not haha. The joke, my IQ is well over that meaning I'm not retarted haha

True haha jokes on him xd

 

[Sasuke1025]

True, but could he use Chidori in Susano'o?

I'm pretty sure He can since he used a fire ball jutsu inside his susano'O to defeat his summon

 

[Kazekage35]

True, but could he use Chidori in Susano'o?

I'm pretty sure He can since he used a fire ball jutsu inside his susano'O to defeat his summon

Well that's true. He might be able to defeat them then but I still give the edge to the duo

 

[Sasuke1025]

Well that's true. He might be able to defeat them then but I still give the edge to the duo

Oh lol no I was just arguing about the dogs xD I also think that current sasuke would lose to them I'm not one of those "sasuke can beat everybody" kind of fanboys xD

 

[Kazekage35]

Oh lol no I was just arguing about the dogs xD I also think that current sasuke would lose to them I'm not one of those "sasuke can beat everybody" kind of fanboys xD

Ohh ok! I can respect that aha

 

[shivjee]

sure about jiraiya but not so sure about kakashihttp://www.nexobi.net/uploads/nb/alucard.gif

 

[al3xsmith13]

sure about jiraiya but not so sure about kakashihttp://www.nexobi.net/uploads/nb/alucard.gif

its jiraiya and kakashi together... haha

 

[KyuubiUzumaki]

You have no opponent. You've enumerated Jirayia and Kakashi's features...ok, now please tell me what can Sasuke do with his EMS? Cause we're not entirely sure how strong he can get. We haven't seen him go all out, unlike those 2 you just mentioned.

My idea would be for you to wait until you actually see what EMS Sasuke can do. That way, you won't be called a hater.

Dude dude...
Since we dont know his abilities; is it not logical to go by what we HAVE seen?
From what we have seen, he cannot beat both Kakashi and Jiraya...not yet anyway. You cant go about assuming that he has hidden powers when we havent seen them. Whether or not he has them is another issue, but we can only debate with his current powers. To do more, makes you a fanboy.

 

[TenTen Fanbase]

Agreed

 

[hatakii kakashii]

kakashi solos .. kamui gg

 

[Seth 42]

I think you are right

 

[iiPyromaniac]

Kakashi and Jiraiya vs Sasuke is definitely overkill. Jiraiya alone could defeat Sasuke. Kakashi alone - 80% chance I'm giving him. Based upon Sasuke's current abilities, skills and jutsus, he would have a 20% chance of beating Kakashi alone, due to lack of experience and his head-on approach to battle. Kakashi uses tactics, as seen in his battles. Sasuke does not. Jiraiya's overconfident and cocky, but regardless, his array of jutsu, abilities and his experience easily outweighs Sasuke's EMS Abilities.

Not a fanboy here, just stating the obvious.

 

[6pathofpain]

Bet you think current Sasuke would lose to Itachi too :|

Itachi will still beat sasuke.

I think Kakashi and Jiraiya could beat EMS Sasuke. They are both a lot smarter and have more battle experience. They both have a wide range of jutsus that can counter sasuke's techniques

Jiraiya
-SM: in SM he can dodge amaterasu (kakashi could give him enough time to get into sage mode)
-Belly of the toad technique
-Swamp of the Underworld technique (this could immobilize susanno)
-Ma and Pa Sound Genjutsu- one of the strongest genjutsus and unavoidable
-Three huge toad summons
-Needle Jizo/ Lions mane technique

Kakashi
-Kamui : Jiraiya could immobilize sasuke with the swamp of the underworld giving kakashi the opportunity to kamui to a vital
-Dog Summons (could go underground and pull Sasuke out of susanno)
-Chidori / lightning manipulations

I really think that together Jiraiya and Kakashi could beat EMS Sasuke although it would be high difficulty. They have the two on one advantage along with tons more experience, and a wide array of jutsus to counter sasukes sharigan techniques

so i wanna know what you think about this match up

Both jman and kakashi would possibly solo sasuke, both of em is over kill