Kakashi is the best "ninja" IMO

[Gerkak]

10/10 thread.

Indeed kakashi is the most skilled ninja.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Kakashi has shown to be the very best at using what he has left and is very smart in those type of situations. very well said

 

[Chie]

Not only that, but he has endured a lot of pain himself over the years. Never knew mom, dad suicided, the guy he finally got along with died to save him, his teammate died and he failed to keep his promise, his sensei died, Sandaime died, his student defected from Konoha, his classmate (Asuma) was killed by a group it turns out his best friend was controlling the whole time and then he needed the resolve to try and stop him.

There are very few people who got that true definition of shinobi above Kakashi, but there are some. People like BZ, Itachi, Madara, hashirama, etc. Kakashi is an example of one who endures, the man has seen hell and hasn't strayed from his path. Gotta respect that.

This is exactly how I feel.

Kakashi isn't the best shinobi, however, very few surpass him in this regard and he is indeed one of the best ones in NV.

 

[dms_kakashi]

Not imo, in reality he is the best and will always be

 

[griffnat13]

Going off topic means you know I'm right and basically Naruto killed Madara had he not absorbed the Shinju. LOL

These guys with their fanfiction.

I went off topic? You didn't even address the thread topic. Naruto wouldn't even have gotten the chance to do that if so6p hadn't received him. Are we reading the same manga even?

 

[Koha]

The Same Madara that got Soloed by BZ? LoL

Nope. Madara isn't he strongest. The core of his new strength came from Hashirama Senju which would by logic make him the strongest.

.... In what world does this make sense?

[Also, the core of his power moved from the cells of Hashirama to the Shinju Tree, and we know Madara was killed off since Kishi wrote himself into a corner with the whole "Madara has NO weaknesses" and retconned part of the story since.] Even so, it became Madara's power... IMO which made him the most powerful.

OT: Well, there's also Haku xD but you're right, Kakashi is the best "Shinobi"

 

[Cunning Linguist]

Strictly speaking, Kisame is the greatest ninja. Kakashi is good too, I guess

 

[Nismo]

I went off topic? You didn't even address the thread topic. Naruto wouldn't even have gotten the chance to do that if so6p hadn't received him. Are we reading the same manga even?

I agree with you Griff, that kid UzumakiRyu only post to get his post count up. Anyways,Anbu Itachi is the best ninja in my opinion.

 

[Psy]

Kisame and Zabuza were amazing. >.>

 

[ANiMUS]

Agreed, I u really can't deny kakashi's skills

 

[griffnat13]

Strictly speaking, Kisame is the greatest ninja. Kakashi is good too, I guess

Kisame and Zabuza were amazing. >.>

How do you guys mean kisame? Not disagreeing I'm just curious

 

[ministerC4]

How do you guys mean kisame? Not disagreeing I'm just curious

Same, I wonder if they mean by mindset?
Justu/skill wise he was very un-ninja like.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

The Same Madara that got Soloed by BZ? LoL

Nope. Madara isn't he strongest. The core of his new strength came from Hashirama Senju which would by logic make him the strongest.

Wrong again. You seem to be on a role here in getting things twisted. BZ cannot be sensed and had access to senjutsu chakra thanks to Obito stealing some from Madara, so he attacked him from behind like a coward, and Madara's core strength came from his brother, he just required hashi's dna to obtain the rinnigan, that is all. It would be different if he needed hashi's dna to beat him, but we all know he didn't since in that battle they almost killed each other, and hashi was the cowardly one in stabbing him from behind in a sad attempt to kill him, which failed.

Madara > Hashi >>>> Naruto.

Going off topic means you know I'm right and basically Naruto killed Madara had he not absorbed the Shinju. LOL

These guys with their fanfiction.

You are one to talk, you have many fanfics on here that I would love to link up in this thread, but unfortunately it would derail this thread, so let's keep it simple and just agree that you refuse to accept reality.

@op: I agree, very difficult to argue against, and not only is kakashi a true shinobi, but he is absolutely among the most powerful and resourceful as well. Kakashi is indefinitely one of the best.

 

[Mikeyofthesharingan]

The way how he is known throughout the nv and such i can see the debate for it. Unfortunately i have to disagree with both statments madz being strongest (current naruto or sasuke) and i feel itachi should also be highly considered for best "ninja"

 

[Legitbeans]

Itachi has all of these traits and more.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Wrong again. You seem to be on a role here in getting things twisted. BZ cannot be sensed and had access to senjutsu chakra thanks to Obito stealing some from Madara, so he attacked him from behind like a coward, and Madara's core strength came from his brother, he just required hashi's dna to obtain the rinnigan, that is all. It would be different if he needed hashi's dna to beat him, but we all know he didn't since in that battle they almost killed each other, and hashi was the cowardly one in stabbing him from behind in a sad attempt to kill him, which failed.

Madara > Hashi >>>> Naruto.

Actually wouldn't it be then Izuna >>> Madara << Hashirama then Naruto


You are one to talk, you have many fanfics on here that I would love to link up in this thread, but unfortunately it would derail this thread, so let's keep it simple and just agree that you refuse to accept reality.

@op: I agree, very difficult to argue against, and not only is kakashi a true shinobi, but he is absolutely among the most powerful and resourceful as well. Kakashi is indefinitely one of the best.

To your first comments:

You tell me by your second post below to accept reality when in fact it is blatantly obvious you are clearly in denial by trying to explain to me the details of BZ backstabbing Madara though my point stands to reason and you trying to prove to me otherwise proves this.

And without the Rinnegan, How long would Madara survived and even though after attaining the Shinju he was still beaten with that ultimate power but that's beside my point.

Madara gained Izuna's eyes because his little brother was killed and several years after that he died to Hashirama but later used that jutsu to stay alive and latter gathered and used his friends dna to gain the Rinnegan which only possible through having some part of both Ashura and Indra in them and finally absorbing the Shinju though that didn't stop him being beaten.

You call what Hashirama cowardly? yet Madara had the Sharigan and should of seen through it with the "most powerful eyes" yet didn't. What he did was only skill. It isn't Hashirama's fault he couldn't tell who was fake and who wasn't guess his eyes weren't as good like he figured probably why he went after Hashirama's dna to gain the Rinnegan.

To the second:

What I said isn't fact but use common sense, what do you think would of happened to Madara had he not absorbed the tree?

 

[griffnat13]

To those who say Itachi (not just for fanboyism, but for his strength) I agree that he is a great "ninja", but he later relied on things like susanoo and amaterasu which puts him under the strength category. Kakashi always has to use his smarts. I semi-agree though.

 

[Jcub]

I actually mean "ninja" not just strength. (I mean, obviously Madara is the best and strongest.) He's unbelievably smart, utilizes ninja tools, quick to act, and if he had the power to beat big people like Kaguya and So6P, he easily could come up with a strategy to do it. Agree?

Kakashi vs Kabuto for best actual ninja...

 

[Eye of the Beholder]

As shinobi one of the best. He doesn't have huge chakra but is very smart, quick to take the right decision... True shadow warrior... so you are kind of right.