Kakashi is above sannin level

Takos

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When did people start thinking teleportation = K.o?

Kakashi only beats them if he teleports their head with Kamui. .... Otherwise no.


So no the Sanin are stronger then Kakashi. The way you say it makes it Kakashi > Edo Madara.

The fact is, teleportation IS ko in this situation. It's like sealing, the enemy is trapped in a dimension he cannot get out of. In case of normal people, they will just die of starvation, which is pretty much a KO. In case of edos, they will be trapped there forever, unable to do anything. Still counts as a win for Kakashi, if you ask me.

Also, Kakashi>Edo Madara is false in most cases, because Kakashi, without Naruto's help, hasn't been able to warp something as huge as Madara's Susanoo. What's more, if Madara knew about Kamui and took Kakashi seriously, he would be wise enough to use a bunch of clones to deal with Kakashi while he himself would just hide away, to be safe. 10 Madara's mokuton clones would be more than enough to handle Kakashi.
 
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This is a common issue we see every time statements like this are made (Hashirama's comment on Itachi is a prime example), people don't take them at face-value & misconstrue them. While Kakashi has had had some opportunities to "kill" Obito, this does not make him stronger than Obito or the Sannin, people forget that Kakashi has had help extreme amounts of assistance in facing Obito & has been saved twice now by Naruto & has also been revived by Kurama's chakra twice, which has allowed him to to perform feats far beyond what his true limits are as he himself pointed out, Kakashi's actual limits were evident in his battle against the Edo Jinchuriki, the only real power he has gained since; within his own natural limits is the ability to enter & exit Kamui's dimension at will, however as Obito pointed out this is also limited by Kakashi's chakra reserves, Kakashi is a powerful shinobi, but do not get carried away over a simple statement.shodaimeicon:
 
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Kakashi >>> Tsunade

Kakashi >= SM Jiraiya

Orochimaru with edo tensei >>>>>> kakashi
 

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Kakashi is a very careful fighter especially against enemies unknown to him, he often try to learn first the abilities of his opponents and look for weakpoints to exploit. He is a precision type, so he always choose to bring down his opponents with minimal toll. Apparently his strength is also his weakness. His reluctance to pull his biggest gun right off the bat has often led him to extended fights which is very dangerous for him because of the chakra drain just by using sharingan, leaving him empty when the time he truly needs it (against pain and kakuzu). For him to win against the sannin 1 on 1, he must avoid prolonged battle. We know that sometimes Kakashi is willing to finish an enemy off using his strongest techniques when he recognizes threat (ex. Ororchimaru, Deidara, Tobi, Gedo Mazo, Juubi).

So the real question is, does he think the sannin are great threat, cause if he thinks so, we know he would try to use kamui on spot. None of the sannin have showed any defence against kamui. It's fast and an all range attack and able to warp huge mass in exchange large amount of his chakra. And Kakashi is very precise at using it like a sniper, he is able to warp fast moving objects as have been shown countless times in the manga. The only person countered it so far is obito.

We know kakashi has the capabilty to finish any of the sannin with his strongest jutsu. Do I think he's above their level? No. But I think he is on their level. He has the potential to surpass them, as we can see he has improved in this war. He has the skills to go toe to toe against any of the three but not for extended period of time, each of the sannin is chakra monster, so his best bet is to finish them off quickly.
 

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both sage mode an et takes a lot of prep time but Kamui is instant

And? I simply stated that Orochimaru and Jiraya are stronger than Kakshi when using those. I didn't say they could beat him in a fight if they hadn't prepared it beforehand.
 

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Kakashi never stood a chance against the Deva path, so dont say "he put up a fight."

He almost killed him, and would have if asura path didn't save deva path....besides kakashi's kamui proficiency has improved tremendously in the war arc
 

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i agree kakashi has shown alot of growth and he deserves some creditability.
 
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