kakashi is a greater genius than itachi

[chazbak]

Ok guys first of all im begging u no flames or rage, lets just try to debate rationally and lets stay mature
Alright, before everything i wanna clear something up (greater genius =/ stronger) so i dnt want some people to misunderstand what im trying to say
Ok now, in this manga people are usually called true genius when they create they own jutsus, graduate the academy a very young age, master technique fairly easily or understand complex situations..
But if we look at it kakashi has itachi beat in almost all of those points or they're on par...just look at creating jutsu first, itachi has NEVER shown a jutsu he created on his own(and if u disagree give me just 1 example) which make kakashi a greater genius than itachi already since he created a complex S RANK JUTSU at freaking 13...if u look at the academy they both graduated very young around 5 or 6, itachi became ABNU captain at age 13, kakashi became jounin at 13 and lead a squad during war time...when its come to analysing or strategizing they are both excellent
so in almost every area which determine a genius they're almost on par exept the creation of jutsus where kakashi is better than itachi (and this aspect for me is the most important to determine a genius), so what do u guys think, and REMEMBER im not saying kakashi is stronger than itachi, we all know itachi is stronger

 

[Two]

MS when you're 13> Chidori when you're 13

 

[Lord Snow]

Nah, kakashi is good but not better than itachi

 

[Punk Hazard]

MS when you're 13> Chidori when you're 13

not a really good argument since you dont need training for that, someone just needs to die, not really much on the part of the person getting MS unless they are doing the killing

plus, kakashi would be considered a genius there too since he trained to get it while itachi had someone die. itachi is stronger with it and has more power, but if kakashi had an uchiha body, i think he would be great

 

[Blaze Release]

Creation of jutsu's doesnt mean kakashi is more of a genuis that itachi. Itachi simple took advantage of his bloodline and used it too his advantage. Also with the sharigan he can copy techs, instead of going through the trouble of creating them.

Also kakashi created the chidori before he got the sharigan. As soon as he got it he copied 1000 jutsu's and forgot about creating anymore jutsu's on his own xd

 

[Selendrile]

Obvious fact is obvious.

 

[ShinobiX]

Itachi is smarter, only 3 people come to mind that can be more intelligent than Itachi: SO6P, Tobi Madara Uchiha and Minato (maybe).

 

[iSpeak]

not a really good argument since you dont need training for that, someone just needs to die, not really much on the part of the person getting MS unless they are doing the killing

plus, kakashi would be considered a genius there too since he trained to get it while itachi had someone die. itachi is stronger with it and has more power, but if kakashi had an uchiha body, i think he would be great

Kakashi got MS because Obito died I think. You cant train to get MS. But Kakashi is smart though, I have to say.

 

[chazbak]

MS when you're 13> Chidori when you're 13

did u even read what i wrote, MS is a jutsu u awake after u kill u best buddy or someone closer to u, there is not genius in that..and again remember what i said being stronger dosnt mean u are a greater genius

 

[MasterSenju01]

Ok guys first of all im begging u no flames or rage, lets just try to debate rationally and lets stay mature
Alright, before everything i wanna clear something up (greater genius =/ stronger) so i dnt want some people to misunderstand what im trying to say
Ok now, in this manga people are usually called true genius when they create they own jutsus, graduate the academy a very young age, master technique fairly easily or understand complex situations..
But if we look at it kakashi has itachi beat in almost all of those points or they're on par...just look at creating jutsu first, itachi has NEVER shown a jutsu he created on his own(and if u disagree give me just 1 example) which make kakashi a greater genius than itachi already since he created a complex S RANK JUTSU at freaking 13...if u look at the academy they both graduated very young around 5 or 6, itachi became ABNU captain at age 13, kakashi became jounin at 13 and lead a squad during war time...when its come to analysing or strategizing they are both excellent
so in almost every area which determine a genius they're almost on par exept the creation of jutsus where kakashi is better than itachi (and this aspect for me is the most important to determine a genius), so what do u guys think, and REMEMBER im not saying kakashi is stronger than itachi, we all know itachi is stronger

Where's your source? I would take your word for it, but i've been fooled to many times.

Also, there's no doubt kakashi is very smart. A genius if you will. Itachi is also a genius. He thinks clearly in a battle under pressure and comes up with many tricks most of the time.

So i would say they're equal =

 

[Two]

did u even read what i wrote, MS is a jutsu u awake after u kill u best buddy or someone closer to u, there is not genius in that..and again remember what i said being stronger dosnt mean u are a greater genius

lol no

not a really good argument since you dont need training for that, someone just needs to die, not really much on the part of the person getting MS unless they are doing the killing

plus, kakashi would be considered a genius there too since he trained to get it while itachi had someone die. itachi is stronger with it and has more power, but if kakashi had an uchiha body, i think he would be great

but wouldn't you have to get your sharingan to a certain level before you can activate Ms like sasuke CS level?? and you'd have to train to get tht strong??

 

[The Thinker]

Nah, kakashi is good but not better than itachi

I agree!

 

[kakuzu49]

MS when you're 13> Chidori when you're 13

got mangekyou without be an uchiha and without kill best friend > ms 13 year old by killing friend and massacre baby and poor olds.

 

[MasterSenju01]

got mangekyou without be an uchiha and without kill best friend > ms 13 year old by killing friend and massacre baby and poor olds.

Lol, itachi did not kill shusui. It's stated in the manga brothah

 

[chazbak]

Creation of jutsu's doesnt mean kakashi is more of a genuis that itachi. Itachi simple took advantage of his bloodline and used it too his advantage. Also with the sharigan he can copy techs, instead of going through the trouble of creating them.

Also kakashi created the chidori before he got the sharigan. As soon as he got it he copied 1000 jutsu's and forgot about creating anymore jutsu's on his own xd

im not denying some of what u said but can i ask u smthing which one of the 2 u think is a greater genius

 

[leebrucea]

got mangekyou without be an uchiha and without kill best friend > ms 13 year old by killing friend and massacre baby and poor olds.

haha yea this is how smart is itachi,kill baby and innocent who had nothing to do with the coup d'etat show pretty how dumb is itachi.but i must admit he's over the average about intelligence.
kakshi is by far smarter than him but overwall i think the fact that itachi is a pure uchia make him a more genius than kakashi.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

This thread is going to become a flame war.I already see comment where people are using words like better, when the topic is which Genius is smarter.


Also, just a side note but, Kakashi was a chunin at 6 years old, jonin at 13.
Itachi was a Chunin at 10, not sure when he became a jonin.

 

[Selendrile]

got mangekyou without be an uchiha and without kill best friend > ms 13 year old by killing friend and massacre baby and poor olds.

lmfao. I may put this in my sig.

 

[Blaze Release]

im not denying some of what u said but can i ask u smthing which one of the 2 u think is a greater genius

Itachi. Dont get me wrong but he is.
You basically based who you think is the greater genius based on what jutsu's they have created.

If you look at itachi's intelligence feats, he blows kakashi out of the water

 

[scrmz]

got mangekyou without be an uchiha and without kill best friend > ms 13 year old by killing friend and massacre baby and poor olds.

LOL ! hahaha i like it.