Kakashi Hatake vs Hiruzen Sarutobi (3rd hokage)

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Location:Valley of The End
Situation:Kakashi has gone rouge
intent:kill
Starting Distance:5 yards
restric: Shikifuin (reaper death-seal) on hiruzen

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Kakashi can easily counter Hiruzen's katon with any of his elemental jutsus
monkey staff will be dodged via superior speed
Kakashi wins with low difficulty at most
 

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You restricted Hiruzen's strongest move, but not Kakashi's? How fair.
 

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kakashi win even without kamui
hiruzen has fire,earth and his monkey ,all that kakashi can counter easily by going underground,water wall,earth wall,coping,speed.....etc
kakashi can end him with sharingan ginjutsu or his lighting jutsus
 

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without kamui kakashi definetely loses but with i think kakashi with extreme high diff

kakashi without kamui is absolutely above old hiruzin
old hiruzin has only fire(not that strong)earth,inma but kakashi without kamui has: sharingan(copying,ginjutsu,noticing),strong lighting jutsu(raiki,light cahin..),good water,gates,rasingan,earth

kakashi can counter all hiruzin jutsus easily,i hope people stop taking with hype and nicknames

kakashi's water>hiruzen's fire
kakashi's lighting>hiruzen's earth
kakashi's speed>enma
kakashi without kamui> hiruzen


kakashi will copy all hiruzen's release jutsus and use it before hiruzen uses it like he did with zabuza

kakashi can end him with sharingan ginjutsu or his lighting jutsus
kakashi without kamui beats old hiruzin mid diff at most
 
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kakashi win even without kamui
hiruzen has fire,earth and his monkey ,all that kakashi can counter easily by going underground,water wall,earth wall,coping,speed.....etc
kakashi can end him with sharingan ginjutsu or his lighting jutsus

Stop fanboying. Without Kamui Kakashi isn't beating the goddamn Hokage.
 

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Kakuzu was toying with Kakashi and team 10 :bouncy:
but Hiruzen is below Kakuzu level so Kakashi might win even without kamui
 

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Stop fanboying. Without Kamui Kakashi isn't beating the goddamn Hokage.

i don't care about hypes and nicknames
this hokage has normal fire , earth and enma

kakashi can counter all that easily

kakashi's water>hiruzen's fire
kakashi's lighting>hiruzen's earth
kakashi's speed>enma
kakashi without kamui> hiruzen



kakashi will copy all hiruzen's release jutsus and use it before hiruzen uses it like he did with zabuza

kakashi can end him with sharingan ginjutsu or his lighting jutsus
kakashi without kamui beats old hiruzin mid diff at most

please stop speaking with hype and nicknames ,how will hiruzen beat kakashi without sharingan?
 

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i don't care about hypes and nicknames
this hokage has normal fire , earth and enma

kakashi can counter all that easily

kakashi's water>hiruzen's fire
kakashi's lighting>hiruzen's earth
kakashi's speed>enma
kakashi without kamui> hiruzen



kakashi will copy all hiruzen's release jutsus and use it before hiruzen uses it like he did with zabuza

kakashi can end him with sharingan ginjutsu or his lighting jutsus
kakashi without kamui beats old hiruzin mid diff at most

please stop speaking with hype and nicknames ,how will hiruzen beat kakashi without sharingan?

Kakashi's water isn't stronger than Hiruzen's fire. Besides, when did Kakashi used suioton without a water source?
His lighning may be stronger than Hiruzen's earth, however he can't use more than 3- 4 Raikiri. Hiruzen can counter them with a doton wall.
Maybe he is faster than Enma, but he has nothing to destroy his diamond body.

Hiruzen has 5 points in genjutsu, Kakashi only 4. This means Hiruzen can counter Kakashi's genjutsu easily.

Kakashi, without Kamui, is on Zabuza's level at best, which is high jounin. The old Hiruzen faced Orochimaru and the prevous Hokages, while Kakashi's strongest opponent ( without Kamui ) was Zabuza.
 

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You restricted Hiruzen's strongest move, but not Kakashi's? How fair.

hiruzin's strongest move kills hiruzin and the enemy

kamui is much faster than this sealing jutsu and sharingan may can see this seal jutsu and dodge it
 

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hiruzin's strongest move kills hiruzin and the enemy

kamui is much faster than this sealing jutsu and sharingan may can see this seal jutsu and dodge it

I'm sorry but this is just bullshit. He can't dodge an S rank seal like the RDS. He defeats Hiruzen with Kamaui, but not because he can dodge the RDS, and certenly not because the sharingan can see an invisible God.
 
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Kakashi wins because of Kamui and advanced lightning techniques.
 

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Kakashi's water isn't stronger than Hiruzen's fire. Besides, when did Kakashi used suioton without a water source?
His lighning may be stronger than Hiruzen's earth, however he can't use more than 3- 4 Raikiri. Hiruzen can counter them with a doton wall.
Maybe he is faster than Enma, but he has nothing to destroy his diamond body.

Hiruzen has 5 points in genjutsu, Kakashi only 4. This means Hiruzen can counter Kakashi's genjutsu easily.

Kakashi, without Kamui, is on Zabuza's level at best, which is high jounin. The old Hiruzen faced Orochimaru and the prevous Hokages, while Kakashi's strongest opponent ( without Kamui ) was Zabuza.
kakashi used water without water source against kakzu's fire

kakashi can counter hiruzin's fire by going underground or copying it and uses it on hiruzin

kakashi can use raiki much more than 4 times ,against kakazu he used it about 6 times(1 kakazu,2 on kakazu's light jutsu,missed 1 on hidan,1 on kakzu's threads which caught naruto,1 on kakazu in the end)and kakashi wasn't tired at all

kakashi in the war before taking any kuarma chakra used 6 kamui with 6 raiki,2 light chain,shadow clones,earth and sharingan for all time

it is like you stopped reading manga since part 1
go read part 2's manga chapters

you think raiki would be canceled by earth wall ,kakashi can destroy it then attack hiruzin with the same raiki
kid kakashi was able to destroy earth wall and hit 18 clones by one raiki

kakashi can go underground and go out behind hiruzen then end him by raiki


you have no evidence that hiruzin can counter sharingan's ginjutus,he couldn't counter hashirama bringer of darkness ginjutsu

kakashi can destroy inma by his raiki ,raiki was said to break through any thing ,whatever kakashi doesn't need to do that he only needs to dodge him

kakashi without kamui is above zabuza ,kakashi already copied all his water and he has now his sword so kakashi without kamui = zabuza+sharingan(copying,ginjutsu,noticing),lighting jutsu(raiki,lighting chain,lighting wolf,lighting clone....)earth(earth wall,going under ground),rasingan,shadow clones,smell,doges,1000 jutsu...etc

note:zabuza beats old hiruzin

in the end someone with normal fire and earth isn't stronger than master of sharingan and lighting,water jutsu
 
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note:zabuza beats old hiruzin

haha NO :D

what would threaten zabuza?small fire ,earth wall ??

zabuza can make the fog ,hiruzin can't find him ,zabuza ends him

old hiruzin is normal shinobi who has normal fire and earth ,even fodder can do it (in manga we saw fodder perform this fire and earth wall as big as jiubi but we haven't seen fodder perform the fog and silent killing and has legendary sword)
 
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