Kakashi/Guy>Nagato's 6 Paths of Pain

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This CT spamming is becoming a bad habit :/

IF the conditions are set in Kakashi and Guy's favor (knowledge-wise at least), I highly doubt that Nagato would even think of opting for that so close to the beginning of a battle. Heck he's more than likely to need to deactivate the other paths to use CT anyways, and Konan was extremely worried that Nagato even thought about using such a harsh technique. Guy having extremely large taijutsu specialized techniques don't hurt either against an opponent who takes most defense from ninjutsu absorbing techniques. It's not always "strongest technique GG"
 

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LMAO did you not see the aftershock of Hirudora?! It even makes rasenshuriken look fodder. It's actually an OP technique!
Yeah, the after shock was so devastating that it hurt absolutely nobody.

Kisame got hit head on with it. He would have been torn to pieces if it was as strong as you're trying to claim.
 

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This CT spamming is becoming a bad habit :/

IF the conditions are set in Kakashi and Guy's favor (knowledge-wise at least), I highly doubt that Nagato would even think of opting for that so close to the beginning of a battle. Heck he's more than likely to need to deactivate the other paths to use CT anyways, and Konan was extremely worried that Nagato even thought about using such a harsh technique. Guy having extremely large taijutsu specialized techniques don't hurt either against an opponent who takes most defense from ninjutsu absorbing techniques. It's not always "strongest technique GG"
CT spamming? lulz.

Nagato has knowledge of Kakashi, and I'm assuming Gai as well from Kisame.

No one said anything about at the beginning of the battle. But if Kakashi/Gai get to the point where Nagato thinks he could be beat by them, he will use it...

Konan was worried because of the incredible amount of chakra he used prior to CT.

It's "strongest technique gg" in this case because Kakashi and Gai have no counter for it.
 

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Guy takes Preta, Deva and Animal Path. Preta can't absorb Hirudora, 7th Gate Guy is too fast and strong for CT's gravitional pull and Guy's strength will send the animal summonings sky high.
Kakashi takes Human, Asura, Naraka Path. Really no explanation needed for that. Kakashi is took quick to get hit by their weak taijutsu and too fast for the missiles. Kamui takes care of them
How will Guy get rid of the animal summons? He's not taking all three of them alone. :sy:
 

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Guy takes Preta, Deva and Animal Path. Preta can't absorb Hirudora, 7th Gate Guy is too fast and strong for CT's gravitional pull and Guy's strength will send the animal summonings sky high.
Kakashi takes Human, Asura, Naraka Path. Really no explanation needed for that. Kakashi is took quick to get hit by their weak taijutsu and too fast for the missiles. Kamui takes care of them
Guy nor Kakashi can spot the Animal path since he can hide inside his chameleon mouth, and with no way of spottin him they can't destroy the animals especially cerberus. Deva uses Banshō Ten'in to grab guy and impaled him with a black rod.
 

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Yeah, the after shock was so devastating that it hurt absolutely nobody.

Kisame got hit head on with it. He would have been torn to pieces if it was as strong as you're trying to claim.
You've got to be kidding me. From miles away, Naruto and the gang had to brace theirselves to not get blown away. And that was obviously plot no jutsu, Kishi wouldn't have let Kisame get torn to pieces because that guy had to read his mind, we had to see Kisame's past, and Kisame had to put everyone in water prison jutsu so he can get the intel to Tobi. Plot no jutsu worried Kakuzu getting torn to pieces by rasenshuriken as well, because Kakuzu wouldn't have been able to come back as Edo if his body wasn't intact
 

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This CT spamming is becoming a bad habit :/

IF the conditions are set in Kakashi and Guy's favor (knowledge-wise at least), I highly doubt that Nagato would even think of opting for that so close to the beginning of a battle. Heck he's more than likely to need to deactivate the other paths to use CT anyways, and Konan was extremely worried that Nagato even thought about using such a harsh technique. Guy having extremely large taijutsu specialized techniques don't hurt either against an opponent who takes most defense from ninjutsu absorbing techniques. It's not always "strongest technique GG"
She was worried because he used alot of chakra prior to CT.
 

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CT spamming? lulz.

Nagato has knowledge of Kakashi, and I'm assuming Gai as well from Kisame.

No one said anything about at the beginning of the battle. But if Kakashi/Gai get to the point where Nagato thinks he could be beat by them, he will use it...

Konan was worried because of the incredible amount of chakra he used prior to CT.

It's "strongest technique gg" in this case because Kakashi and Gai have no counter for it.
Forget about CT man, how they are gonna deal with the dog?, every time guy will hit him he will multiply himself, and if Animal Path is flaying in the air with bird outside their reach, they are not gonna take out any of the summon's permanently since animal path can summon them again.
 

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You've got to be kidding me. From miles away, Naruto and the gang had to brace theirselves to not get blown away. And that was obviously plot no jutsu, Kishi wouldn't have let Kisame get torn to pieces because that guy had to read his mind, we had to see Kisame's past, and Kisame had to put everyone in water prison jutsu so he can get the intel to Tobi. Plot no jutsu worried Kakuzu getting torn to pieces by rasenshuriken as well, because Kakuzu wouldn't have been able to come back as Edo if his body wasn't intact
They had to brace themselves. Big deal.

So you're certain, that if it wasn't for plot, that Kisame would have been torn to shreds?

You see, the problem with that is, I have proof that hirudora wasn't capable of tearing someone to shreds at point blank range.

You have no proof that it was simply because of "plot no jutsu".

Gai didn't even act surprised that Kisame was still intact, so obviously, he had no expectations for that to happen.
 

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kakashi and guy at least stand a chance. its probable that they devised counters for at least the shinra tensei, bansho tenin, preta path, asura path, human path, animal path and naraka path.

guy can easily take out preta and naraka path and maybe just maybe take out the human path while kakashi uses lightning bunshins and doton techs to hold off deva path and asura path like last time. after guy is done defeating preta, naraka and human path, he can assist kakashi in aiming for deva paths 5-second interval. asura path is taken out by lightning chain or whatever that tech is called. if chibaku tensei is pulled out then i guess kakashi can kamui it. also animal path summons can be taken out by asujaku(i think thats what its called). kakashi can then take out animal path with raikiri.
 

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Forget about CT man, how they are gonna deal with the dog?, every time guy will hit him he will multiply himself, and if Animal Path is flaying in the air with bird outside their reach, they are not gonna take out any of the summon's permanently since animal path can summon them again.
Nonsense, Raju.

Don't you realize Kakashi just uses kamui and it's game over for everybody?

Get with the program.

:p
 

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No. Nice try though.

Deva Path> Kakashi

Other 5> Guy
This is to blatant to be considered logic. Gai in 8 gates has the speed to catch deva paths interval no sweat and the other 5 paths don't have the speed to keep up with him either. Add kakshi to the mix and the end result imo would be Gai/Kakshi extreme difficulty with either kakshi dieing due to kamui spam or guy going at 8 gates.
 

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How will Guy get rid of the animal summons? He's not taking all three of them alone. :sy:
7th Gate Guy is taking on multiple animal summonings. He can basically be several places at once due to his speed. Guy also has that friction fire punch thing, which gets rid of multiple enemies at once.
Guy nor Kakashi can spot the Animal path since he can hide inside his chameleon mouth, and with no way of spottin him they can't destroy the animals especially cerberus. Deva uses Banshō Ten'in to grab guy and impaled him with a black rod.
Kakashi has top notch hearing and smelling. He wouldn't be fooled by invisibility. He dealt with an invisible guy in Kakashi Gaiden remember? And Guy is durable and fast, so the chameleon won't be a problem for him either. But, damm you got me with the cerberus thing, but Kakashi's intellect will figure a way to beat it. Deva's gravtional pull in not going to be a problem for Guy, especially 7th Gate Guy. With speed and strength, it's resistable
 

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7th Gate Guy is taking on multiple animal summonings. He can basically be several places at once due to his speed. Guy also has that friction fire punch thing, which gets rid of multiple enemies at once.


Kakashi has top notch hearing and smelling. He wouldn't be fooled by invisibility. He dealt with an invisible guy in Kakashi Gaiden remember? And Guy is durable and fast, so the chameleon won't be a problem for him either. But, damm you got me with the cerberus thing, but Kakashi's intellect will figure a way to beat it. Deva's gravtional pull in not going to be a problem for Guy, especially 7th Gate Guy. With speed and strength, it's resistable
@bold, you sure?. :noc:
 

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CT spamming? lulz.

Nagato has knowledge of Kakashi, and I'm assuming Gai as well from Kisame.

No one said anything about at the beginning of the battle. But if Kakashi/Gai get to the point where Nagato thinks he could be beat by them, he will use it...

Konan was worried because of the incredible amount of chakra he used prior to CT.

It's "strongest technique gg" in this case because Kakashi and Gai have no counter for it.
Deva's going to be one of their first targets anyways. Kakashi Kamui'd a nail so fast that the Deva Path didn't even see it before his very eyes, all he has to change is its target now. If knowledge is set in Kakashi and Guy's favor, than they instantly get much more advantages than Pain would. What's going to happen if all the paths drop down for the count in preparation for his technique? If Guy and Kakashi know their targets... Nagato's not going to do much by the time he "thinks he could be beat by them". I'm not even counting that Kakashi and Guy already said that they had counters for his techniques stated in the manga.

I'm basically saying that this is with proper knowledge adjustments (like none compared to full or something). That's pretty fair when the duo had proper counters for the paths. Even Guy himself, probably one of the best taijutsu masters thus far, would put pressure on Pain since that's one of his natural weaknesses. AT left Kisame on the surface of the water, obviously beaten up, and with Guy ready to attack him at the twitch of a finger. It was even detonated under water when it happened. MP actually killed the opponent when used. All Kakashi has to do is make Deva use ST and they're pretty defenseless from Guy's onslaught. I
 

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They had to brace themselves. Big deal.

So you're certain, that if it wasn't for plot, that Kisame would have been torn to shreds?

You see, the problem with that is, I have proof that hirudora wasn't capable of tearing someone to shreds at point blank range.

You have no proof that it was simply because of "plot no jutsu".

Gai didn't even act surprised that Kisame was still intact, so obviously, he had no expectations for that to happen.
Hirudora's purpose isn't to tear the victim to shreds, it doesn't have micro wind blades inside the blast like rasenshuriken. What I meant was, Hirudora's blast should've oblierated Kisame, like how Cell died from Gohan's Kamehameha. And, yes, it's obvious that plot no jutsu was behind Kisame's intactment. ask anyone to read my previous post about the plot no jutsu, any rational mind person would agree
 

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Hirudora's purpose isn't to tear the victim to shreds, it doesn't have micro wind blades inside the blast like rasenshuriken. What I meant was, Hirudora's blast should've oblierated Kisame, like how Cell died from Gohan's Kamehameha. And, yes, it's obvious that plot no jutsu was behind Kisame's intactment. ask anyone to read my previous post about the plot no jutsu, any rational mind person would agree
You can't argue it should have, because it didn't. It didn't do it, Gai didn't say it should have, either.

If 1. It doesn't do it

and

2. The character who uses the technique didn't comment or even looked surprised regarding the results, there is nothing to argue.

There's no reason to think anything else should have happened, therefor, there's no argument for "plot no jutsu".
 

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You can't argue it should have, because it didn't. It didn't do it, Gai didn't say it should have, either.

If 1. It doesn't do it

and

2. The character who uses the technique didn't comment or even looked surprised regarding the results, there is nothing to argue.

There's no reason to think anything else should have happened, therefor, there's no argument for "plot no jutsu".
SMFH are you really going to make me have to make a thread about this so you can see that most people will argree with me? Plot No Jutsu is a b**** and ruins a lot of arguments. It's inconvient to talk about but true
 
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