Kakashi, gai, yamato, neji, sai and sakura vs current level sasuke or naruto

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Kakashi could kill Sasuke, but high difficulty, and Naruto is the real problem here. I don't see Guy and Yamato beating him, and the others are useless. So team Naruto win

Bwahahahahahahahahahahha. You're a terrible troll.

Anyway Naruto may be able to take this, but I doubt Sasuke can only because he doesn't have the amount of chakra Naruto has. Sasuke would at least take down several of them though.
 

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That group would outright crush sasuke or (non bijuu) naruto.
 

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if kakashi goes all out he would solo sasuke and please don t mention the chakra problems because kakashi during this war has improved his chakra a lot but the real problem here is bijuu mode naruto
 

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Think what you want. It won't change my mind. Kakashis abilities are underestimate, or Sasuke is overestimated.

Kakashi was almost killed by a 75% dead Sasuke. He doesn't have the speed to avoid amaterasu, doesn't have the strength to break through susanoo, and is vulnerable to genjutsu.

Not to mention his extremely poor chakra reserves. A couple susanoo arrows and he's pretty much done since he'd have to kamui them all considering he doesn't have the necessary speed to dodge them.

Kakashi isn't soloing shit.

if kakashi goes all out he would solo sasuke and please don t mention the chakra problems because kakashi during this war has improved his chakra a lot but the real problem here is bijuu mode naruto

Bwahahahahaha another poor troll.
 

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Kakashi was almost killed by a 75% dead Sasuke. He doesn't have the speed to avoid amaterasu, doesn't have the strength to break through susanoo, and is vulnerable to genjutsu.

Not to mention his extremely poor chakra reserves. A couple susanoo arrows and he's pretty much done since he'd have to kamui them all considering he doesn't have the necessary speed to dodge them.

Kakashi isn't soloing shit.
- That's why i think you're overestimating Sasuke or underestimating Kakashi. Sasuke was revived by Karin. That means his chakra was almost at his best. I don't know how you can say he was 75% dead. His only problem was that he was going blind.

- Also, tired(even half dead if you want) or not, Susanoo has the same power. That's what everybody forget. Everybody who talk about this scene are only happy to say that "tired Sasuke beats Kakashi, haha", but they forget to say that Susanoo has the same power, tired or not, they also forget to say that "when Sasuke used his strongest attack at that moment to beat Kakashi, Kakashi used his strongest defense to warp it away", and i saw it more impressiv than "weak Sasuke beats Kakashi". For me this simple action shows that he kamui improved really, and that he could have beaten Sasuke if the fight would have continue.

You can even see that he wasn't feared at all. He thought he could beat Sasuke, and even when Tobi and Zetsu came, he was thinking about to beat the 3 of them all by himself.

But we're not forced to believe the same thing, so you can think either way if you think, but that's not what i believe and you should face that.;)
 

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- That's why i think you're overestimating Sasuke or underestimating Kakashi. Sasuke was revived by Karin. That means his chakra was almost at his best. I don't know how you can say he was 75% dead. His only problem was that he was going blind.

- Also, tired(even half dead if you want) or not, Susanoo has the same power. That's what everybody forget. Everybody who talk about this scene are only happy to say that "tired Sasuke beats Kakashi, haha", but they forget to say that Susanoo has the same power, tired or not, they also forget to say that "when Sasuke used his strongest attack at that moment to beat Kakashi, Kakashi used his strongest defense to warp it away", and i saw it more impressiv than "weak Sasuke beats Kakashi". For me this simple action shows that he kamui improved really, and that he could have beaten Sasuke if the fight would have continue.

You can even see that he wasn't feared at all. He thought he could beat Sasuke, and even when Tobi and Zetsu came, he was thinking about to beat the 3 of them all by himself.

But we're not forced to believe the same thing, so you can think either way if you think, but that's not what i believe and you should face that.;)

So because Kakashi can potentially beat a completely exhausted and 75% blind Sasuke means he can beat a fully rested Sasuke with all of his chakra and EMS? Lol poor logic at its finest. Thinking you can do something doesn't equate to being able to do it. Sasuke thought he could take on all 5 kages and got his ass beat.

As I said a couple susanoo arrows and Kakashi's dead because the only way he's avoiding them is kamui and that exhausts him very quickly. Not to mention Kakashi has no way of avoiding amaterasu or getting through susanoo.

Kakashi isn't soloing anything.
 

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So because Kakashi can potentially beat a completely exhausted and 75% blind Sasuke means he can beat a fully rested Sasuke with all of his chakra and EMS? Lol poor logic at its finest. Thinking you can do something doesn't equate to being able to do it. Sasuke thought he could take on all 5 kages and got his ass beat.

As I said a couple susanoo arrows and Kakashi's dead because the only way he's avoiding them is kamui and that exhaust him very quickly. Not to mention Kakashi has no way of avoiding amaterasu or getting through susanoo.

Kakashi isn't soloing anything.
You're the one not logic at all. From the moment i read "a completely exhausted Sasuke" i didn't even bother continue reading. It's pointless to continue argue with you. Believe what you want. ;)
 

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You're the one not logic at all. From the moment i read "a completely exhausted Sasuke" i didn't even bother continue reading. It's pointless to continue argue with you. Believe what you want. ;)

Yet you've continued to provide zero evidence on how Kakashi can win. I've already provided plenty on how Sasuke can win. You simply can't counter anything I've said, so you say believe what you want. Simply pathetic.

I'm not the one being illogical here. That's you my friend.
 

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Yet you've continued to provide zero evidence on how Kakashi can win. I've already provided plenty on how Sasuke can win. You simply can't counter anything I've said, so you say believe what you want. Simply pathetic.

I'm not the one being illogical here. That's you my friend.
I can actually tell you how i see Kakashi winning, but it's pointless cuz you won't believe it, cuz from the base you're already illogic.
 

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I can actually tell you how i see Kakashi winning, but it's pointless cuz you won't believe it, cuz from the base you're already illogic.

Didn't you say you were done? Yet you're still responding :rolleyes:

I've still yet to see you counter any of my points on Sasuke winning. Kakashi has no way of avoiding susanoos arrows other than kamui, which tires him out immediately. He could barely move after using it once to absorb Sasuke's arrow. Sasuke can fire several in succession. Then there's amaterasu as well, which Kakashi isn't avoiding due to not having anywhere near the speed to avoid it. Not to mention Sasuke can summon his hawk to stay out of Kakashi's range.

All you have done is spout illogical nonsense, which simply wastes my time.

Not surprising coming from you though. You seem like the typical illogical/ignorant kid that comes along every now and then on the Base.
 

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They all can coordinate their efforts really well, so sasuke or naruto no chance
 

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Didn't you say you were done? Yet you're still responding :rolleyes:

I've still yet to see you counter any of my points on Sasuke winning. Kakashi has no way of avoiding susanoos arrows other than kamui, which tires him out immediately. He could barely move after using it once to absorb Sasuke's arrow. Sasuke can fire several in succession. Then there's amaterasu as well, which Kakashi isn't avoiding due to not having anywhere near the speed to avoid it. Not to mention Sasuke can summon his hawk to stay out of Kakashi's range.

All you have done is spout illogical nonsense, which simply wastes my time.

Not surprising coming from you though. You seem like the typical illogical/ignorant kid that comes along every now and then on the Base.
I ask you just "one" thing. What could Sasuke do if Kakashi decides to go underground? :shrug:
 

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I ask you just "one" thing. What could Sasuke do if Kakashi decides to go underground? :shrug:

Sharingan can see chakra buddy meaning that little trick is pretty much useless. Kabuto tried something similar and Sasuke saw right through it.

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Sasuke could also summon his hawk to fly meaning Kakashi has no way of reaching him. I also forgot to mention that even if by some miracle Kakashi managed to grab Sasuke he could simply use chidori nagashi, which would pretty much make Kakashi let go.
 
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Sharingan can see chakra buddy meaning that little trick is pretty much useless. Kabuto tried something similar and Sasuke saw right through it.

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Sasuke could also summon his hawk to fly meaning Kakashi has no way of reaching him.
- That doesn't help him to reach Kakashi, cuz he doesn't have the destructiv power to catch him underground.
- Kakashi is not suppose to stay underground definitively. He has shown that he could use his doton jutsu and attack quickly with a clone a second after surprising even Itachi and even Itachi can see chakra, but that didn't help him. Don't forget Kakashi has also the sharingan. He knows perfectly that Sharingan sees chakra, so he won't do this jutsu without thinking.

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Like you can see, the time to avoid the katon from Itachi, and he was already on Itachi after hiding+making a clone+attacking an all that in less than 1second. So don't sure Sasuke will even notice it, and even have time to do all what you're talking about(noticing Kakashi hide underground+summoning+flying else where). And he won't even know if it's the clone or the original like Itachi didn't knew also.
 
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- That doesn't help him to reach Kakashi, cuz he doesn't have the destructiv power to catch him underground.
- Kakashi is not suppose to stay underground definitively. He has shown that he could use his doton jutsu and attack quickly with a clone a second after surprising even Itachi and even Itachi can see chakra, but that didn't help him. Don't forget Kakashi has also the sharingan. He knows perfectly that Sharingan sees chakra, so he won't do this jutsu without thinking.

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Like you can see, the time to avoid the katon from Itachi, and he was already on Itachi after hiding+making a clone+attacking an all that in less than 1second. So don't sure Sasuke will even notice it, and even have time to do all what you're talking about(summoning+flying else where).

He doesn't have the destructive power? Just lol.

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Just because Itachi didn't do it doesn't mean he can't do it. Sasuke was clearly able to see Kabuto through the spikes, so there's no reason to say he can't see Kakashi through the ground.

Not to mention Itachi easily countered Kakashi when he came from underground. As soon as Sasuke sees Kakashi go underground he can easily jump in the air and summon his hawk and then Kakashi has no way of reaching him.

He could also use chidori nagashi, which would prevent Kakashi from ever getting close to him.
 

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He doesn't have the destructive power? Just lol.

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Just because Itachi didn't do it doesn't mean he can't do it. Sasuke was clearly able to see Kabuto through the spikes, so there's no reason to say he can't see Kakashi through the ground.

Not to mention Itachi easily countered Kakashi when he came from underground. As soon as Sasuke sees Kakashi go underground he can easily jump in the air and summon his hawk and then Kakashi has no way of reaching him.

He could also use chidori nagashi, which would prevent Kakashi from ever getting close to him.
- I don't see what's funny when you show your pic. He only managed to destroy a little part from the ground. Sakuras punch was wayyyyyy much impressiv than that.
- I'm not actually saying he won't see Kakashi. I'm saying he won't have time to notice it in time and do all what you say, and it's the only reason why Itachi didn't notice it in time. Just look at my pic to see how fast it was.

- For the chidori nagashi(admitting he use that, which i highly doubt), if it touches a raiton kage bunshin, Sasuke is the one who risk to be paralyse, and at that time, Kakashi could take advantage of this to finish with him either by coming up with a raikiri or kamui.
 
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- I don't see what's funny when you show your pic. He only managed to destroy a little part from the ground. Sakuras punch was wayyyyyy much impressiv than that.
- I'm not actually saying he won't see Kakashi. I'm saying he won't have time to notice it in time and do all what you say, and it's the only reason why Itachi didn't notice it in time. Just look at my pic to see how fast it was.

- For the chidori nagashi, if it touches a raiton kage bunshin, Sasuke is the one who risk to be paralyse, and at that time, Kakashi could take advantage of this to finish with him either by coming up with a raikiri or kamui.

I never said he had massive destructive power, but to say he doesn't have the necesaary destructive power to find Kakashi is ludicrous. His susanoo could simply keep punching the ground, which would pretty much dismantly the entire area.

Sasuke's reacted to much faster things in this manga like the raikage for example. Not to mention it doesn't take anymore than one second to jump in the air and then he can simply summon his hawk. Kakashi's not reaching him then.

Also a single punch isn't putting down Sasuke, so even if Kakashi managed to hit Sasuke(highly unlikely anyway) it's not going to win it for him. Kakashi trying to use raikiri underground would give him away immediately, which would give Sasuke plenty of time to dodge. Not that this matters anyway since Kakashi isn't getting to Sasuke in the first place.

You also act like Kakashi will be able to manage all this before Sasuke strikes him with his susanoo arrows or amaterasu.

Besides Sasuke can activate his susanoo damn near instantly

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So even if Kakashi popped up from underground as he did to Itachi he wouldn't get through anyway.
 

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Sasuke can't defeat all those people if they were to fight him but current naruto could
 
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