Kakashi finally surpassed Minato

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Without Naruto's chakra he can't, I guess it's just gonna be some speed fight and it's gonna end fast xD.
And Minato doesn't have anything other than FTG to offer too.



:| that's like saying Sasuke has the Rinnegan, Minato is not Senju or Uzumaki so no.
I wonder about his elemental, he doesn't really showed anything besides FTG and Rasengan, while Kakashi...
wtf does jutsu have to do with anything? Kakashi is fodder and you don't need to be senju or uzumaki to have SM. FTG > Kamui...dude look up things instead of debating on something. Minato jutsu alone > everyone in Naruto.
 

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You would of had some credence if you actually bothered to explain what this counter was.
You can't say he can do something and not delve into it.
With that in mind defeating minato takes more then kamui and the sharingan.
Obito had first hand knowledge of the ftg,trained with madara for two years learning every sharingan kinjustu and yin.yang ninjustu,had a senju stamina boost that let him use his Kamui indefinitely and had kurama with him.Not to mention he gets the jump on him by using naruto as bait.
And still he loss without minato breaking a sweat.

Speed is irrelevant to minato.You need something that is constant like suusano to guard against oncoming attacks to survive the next instance after minato uses ftg or he will slit your throat and your bleeding out on the floor when you finally realize where he is at.
Because I thought that people are already aware of his intelligence, he barely read Itachi's movements yet knew what's coming. And here we're talking about for his Sensei, he learned everything for him so it's obvious that he knows about FTG and how it works, while Minato doesn't know about his Kamui at all so won't attack him recklessly.
Obito was barely at his 16 and underestimate his Sensei.
And you forgot that Kakashi can use shadow clones, he always does.
 

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:| that's like saying Sasuke has the Rinnegan, Minato is not Senju or Uzumaki so no.
I wonder about his elemental, he doesn't really showed anything besides FTG and Rasengan, while Kakashi...
Jiraiya thought minato was the child of prophecy and taught him toad summons.There's a high possibility that he has sage mode.Minato intended to combine rasengan with his element.Now,he wouldn't bother doing that if he didn't have one.So it's only logical that he has atleast one elemental affinity.
 
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FTG > Amaterasu...

How it would look if the fox was itachi's susanoo and he launched amaterasu at him, this is how it would warp amaterasu:

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Minato doesn't even need to use his kunai. He could just form his warp seal inside his rasengan and warp it to itachi while inside susanoo. It would be instant so he would die instantly.

Kakashi can to but it takes time and Minato time is instant.
 

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Because I thought that people are already aware of his intelligence, he barely read Itachi's movements yet knew what's coming. And here we're talking about for his Sensei, he learned everything for him so it's obvious that he knows about FTG and how it works, while Minato doesn't know about his Kamui at all so won't attack him recklessly.
Obito was barely at his 16 and underestimate his Sensei.
And you forgot that Kakashi can use shadow clones, he always does.
once in a life time genius baby , he can decipher kakashi's kamui or any other justsu he doesnt know about him ..in seconds
 

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Jiraiya thought minato was the child of prophecy and taught him toad summons.There's a high possibility that he has sage mode.Minato intended to combine rasengan with his element.Now,he wouldn't bother doing that if he didn't have one.So it's only logical that he has atleast one elemental affinity.
Minato has never use a single toad, I don't really believe this.
Kishi focused on his FTG, but is that for a reason?
Besides even if he has toads he's not gonna use them against Kakashi, he never really used anything besides FTG for the most part while fighting.
 
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Minato has never use a single toad, I don't really believe this.
Kishi focused on his FTG, but is that for a reason?
Besides even if he has toads he's not gonna used them against Kakashi, he never really used anything besides FTG for the most part while fighting.
You don't believe this???lol
I stated out right facts from the manga and you deny them!!!!!! lol
Minato has never used a toad???
He summoned gamabunta in his fight against kyuubi.He left the key to naruto's seal on the stomach of a toad.Aren't they toad techniques??
 

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You don't believe this???lol
I stated out right facts from the manga and you deny them!!!!!! lol
Minato has never used a toad???
He summoned gamabunta in his fight against kyuubi.He left the key to naruto's seal on the stomach of a toad.Aren't they toad techniques??
The point was that he never use anything besides FTG 1vs1 against human, do you understand the difference?
SJ is kinda finisher, Kakashi doesn't control Kurama or something so it's pointless, using RDS would kill Minato.
We're talking about versatile ninjutsu and such against Kakashi, or you believe that the Toad is going to fight him?
 
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You know what you are doing to me by doing this???:dead:

Kakashi loses...:dead:



I always spend my time creating scenarios where Kakashi is finally able to defeat Minato but none were successful...
Kakashi is super-skilled so is Minato...
Kakashi is battle smart, Minato is master level in ti...


Kakashi's one and only chance is his deception skills but Minato's reflexes sums it up...
 
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The point was that he never use anything besides FTG 1vs1 against human, do you understand the difference?
Rasengan, SJ are kinda finishers.
We're talking about versatile ninjutsu and such against Kakashi, or you believe that the Toad is going to fight him?
FTG itself is the most versatile ninjutsu ever.Why can't minato summon gamabunta to fight kakashi???
If he intends to finish the fight quickly,he will summon gamabunta and use it as a distraction to finish off kakashi.
 

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Minato never uses much in a 1 vs 1 because he's already op. 1 on 1 most ninja would be skewered by Minato's kunai in a matter of seconds. kakashi wouldn't be able to hurt Minato as ftg is even more instant than kamui and I we all know kamui isn't nearly as strong without kuramas chakra boost.
 

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we didn't see the full power of minato yet

plus kamui is not enough to beat minato

did you see what minato did to Tobi who has S\T + senju DNA + MS

and still got beat by minato in a matter of few mintues

minato is very powerful more than itachi ( who is weaker than Tobi )
 
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