(Kakashi) become overrated

[Steven Segal]

Kakashi < Itachi
" > Obito
Itachi < Obito

I know we shouldn't use ABC logic, but wtf?

Itachi > kakashi > obito

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Kakashi only got healed one time and that was necessary since he fought for 2days. Also, you mean Obito fighting with 6Bijuus, Gedo Mazo and Juubi?

Don't forget kyuubi chakra that healed kakashi several of times ..
Sakura healed him when she joined the fight against juubi .

To me Obito was powerful only because of Kamui and being able to control the nine jurinchi's with his rinnegan. Thats it!, there is nothing that he does is impressive even his taijutsu skills are above average. Thats the down fall of the uchiha clan they rely to heavily on the sharigan that when there is someone that can use there same abilities and also possessed there eyes they can give them a fair fight. Its up to the person with good taijutsu,genjutsu and ninjutsu skills to surpassed the other and that person happens to be kakashi. To me I like Obito but his combat skills were basically spamming one technique over and over. Nothing new came from him and Obito fans need to understand that he was only able to defeat powerful shinobi's even konan due to him having Kamui and also senju DNA.:O

You just underrated obito greatly now

 

[Tapey]

Why am I a fanboy?

i guess it could be any number of reasons.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

i guess it could be any number of reasons.

I guess you are trying to be smart,and it's not working

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

#biasedpoll

 

[Tapey]

Itachi > kakashi > obito

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that proves your argument good pick up a fight were Kakashi doesnt even know he has MS, this is why i facepalm at Uchiha fanboys.

 

[Steven Segal]

Well... I think Kakashi is a bad match up for Obito in 1v1 so Kakashi won.
Kakashi already showed his competency with genjutsu and taijutsu against Obito.
Kakashi already knows about rinnegan powers and the counters.
Obito's Kamui was useless against Kakashi.

So in 1v1, Kakashi > Obito BUT Obito + 6 Paths > Kakashi.

He still has renningan and lose !! He should win but he lost because he doesn't have enough chakra while kakashi has full of chakra .

Why am I a fanboy?

She just calling anyone who disagree with her a fanboy

Your poll is biased, Kakashi was fighting for atleast 2 days straight though, furthermore if Obito never had Senju DNA his chakra would of been finished.

My poll is explaining about what happened after chapter 636

 

[Tapey]

I guess you are trying to be smart,and it's not working

im not trying to be smart at all, but hey if thats what it came off as look at the big brain on this guy.

 

[Tapey]

He still has renningan and lose !! He should win but he lost because he doesn't have enough chakra while kakashi has full of chakra .


She just calling anyone who disagree with her a fanboy

My poll is explaining about what happened after chapter 636

ok mr. Itachi Solos.

 

[believe7]

The part in bold. DUH.
They don't expect anyone to posses their eyes. It's THEIR eyes.
And it's not a downfall, they well skilled, they just the Sharingan as a trump card.

I said they rely heavily on the trump card rather than learning abilities that can help them in tough altercations like this. Look at Itachi for example he is one of the strongest Genjutsu users in the series. And guess what he can use it without the sharigan ,he can put u in an genjutsu with the flick of his finger, and that is skill whether u like it or not. He also possess powerful taijutsu and ninjutsu abilities that can allow him to fight a sage shinobi like kabuto and give him a run for his money even though kabuto is stronger and was able to deter the advantages of the sharigan abilities with the sage power. Madara new so many ninjutsu skills he even was able to stop the release of the Edo Tensei. He knows lots of forbidden ninjutsu's something obito lacks. When an individual only rely on one move over and over they can be easily observed and analysed by others. That is risky on Obito behalf thats why he was almost killed by Konan. He was lucky in that match-up and everyone here knows it. I like Obito bro but ppl need to stop being in denial he spams kamui to much even though its his original technique :erm:

 

[Steven Segal]

that proves your argument good pick up a fight were Kakashi doesnt even know he has MS, this is why i facepalm at Uchiha fanboys.

Are you high or something !??

Kakashi had the MS since he was 13 XD

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[TheEvilOne]

Kakashi didn't improved after his fight with Zabuza.... So he is a jounin level fodder even now.
Obito is underrated ofc.

 

[Tapey]

Are you high or something !??

Kakashi had the MS since he was 13 XD

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thats why i said before he knew he had it.

 

[Steven Segal]

thats why i said before he knew he had it.

That's what you said :stfu:

that proves your argument good pick up a fight were Kakashi doesnt even know he has MS, this is why i facepalm at Uchiha fanboys.

You said he doesn't have MS and he doesn't know about it but he had MS since he was 13 and he fought itachi and he was 27

Kakashi didn't improved after his fight with Zabuza.... So he is a jounin level fodder even now.
Obito is underrated ofc.

Let's not overrate obito and let's not underrate kakashi :hooray:

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Well here's my analysis of this fight.

To start, when it comes to fundamental combat, Kakashi is better than Obito. This fight basically demonstrated this. However, this also shows that the conditions of the fight were not in Obito's favor. So let's begin with Obito's "handicaps".

1. Chakra: Obito has fought this entire day while boosting out chakra for his 6 paths jinjuriki, the Uchiha Flame Barrier, Starting the Juubi process, and simultaneously fighting Gai, Kakashi, Naruto, Bee, and then the alliance. He's getting screwed there. While Kakashi may have been fighting for two days, He's been healed and re-replenished with chakra...twice to be precise. Some noted that he didn't have his cloak; however, he went to Kamui Land right after it fades meaning he still has all of his chakra unlike Obito. Also, he was healed by Sakura after sustaining damage from Obito.

2. Kamui: Obito's entire battle game revolves around this move. So st the start, Kakashi is a form of weakness; however, the true problem dwells within the fact that he is inside the dimension fighting. Unable to summon things from it, he loses his two best offensive techniques....Whirly Shurikens of great size, and Ranbu no Bakufu. This leaves Obito with his mediocre fire game (fire balls) his average fundamentals skill, and in a completely different combat style than normal.

3 Rinnegan: Due to the severe chakra dent, he isn't even able to use his eye. No preta, human, Asura, or Deva paths that would be super effective against Kakashi could be used. Instead, he only had black rods. I may as well mention it here, but his Mokuton control is poor. His psycho scene with it was pretty much just spiral Zetsu. The only thing he could do is make a grapple like extension meant to capture Naruto.

So with those three things....Obito wasn't at his greatest point.


I don't think Kakashi is a weak shinobi...he's easily amongst the strongest; however, to put him above Obito or in a top ten probably doesn't make sense...and I'm honestly more of a Kakashi fsn. Don't really like Obito since hos reveal in personality shift to rather child like.

 

[Tapey]

That's what you said :stfu:


You said he doesn't have MS and he doesn't know about it but he had MS since he was 13 and he fought itachi and he was 27

i said a fight with itachi where he didnt know he MS, im very aware he had it i read the manga as well, thats why i wrote what i wrote

(and im going to assume you're out of real conversation topic if you are reduced to fixing my grammar)

 

[6thpathsage]

Obito should've expected to be fighting the best of the best in the world and eventually they would have figured out the secret to his kamui and when that happened he would have got whooped with his inferior taijutsu . I'm an Obito fan and I liked him because of his blatant don't give a shit about everyone attitude (declaring war on the world as one man) but if his gamble didn't work and he failed at it, I accept it and say if you were not 100% all round in taijutsu, genjutsu and everything else then you should've trained a bit more b4 declaring war. I'm more disappointed than mad that he lost.


OP: your poll is not cool.

 

[Steven Segal]

Well here's my analysis of this fight.

To start, when it comes to fundamental combat, Kakashi is better than Obito. This fight basically demonstrated this. However, this also shows that the conditions of the fight were not in Obito's favor. So let's begin with Obito's "handicaps".

1. Chakra: Obito has fought this entire day while boosting out chakra for his 6 paths jinjuriki, the Uchiha Flame Barrier, Starting the Juubi process, and simultaneously fighting Gai, Kakashi, Naruto, Bee, and then the alliance. He's getting screwed there. While Kakashi may have been fighting for two days, He's been healed and re-replenished with chakra...twice to be precise. Some noted that he didn't have his cloak; however, he went to Kamui Land right after it fades meaning he still has all of his chakra unlike Obito. Also, he was healed by Sakura after sustaining damage from Obito.

2. Kamui: Obito's entire battle game revolves around this move. So st the start, Kakashi is a form of weakness; however, the true problem dwells within the fact that he is inside the dimension fighting. Unable to summon things from it, he loses his two best offensive techniques....Whirly Shurikens of great size, and Ranbu no Bakufu. This leaves Obito with his mediocre fire game (fire balls) his average fundamentals skill, and in a completely different combat style than normal.

3 Rinnegan: Due to the severe chakra dent, he isn't even able to use his eye. No preta, human, Asura, or Deva paths that would be super effective against Kakashi could be used. Instead, he only had black rods. I may as well mention it here, but his Mokuton control is poor. His psycho scene with it was pretty much just spiral Zetsu. The only thing he could do is make a grapple like extension meant to capture Naruto.

So with those three things....Obito wasn't at his greatest point.


I don't think Kakashi is a weak shinobi...he's easily amongst the strongest; however, to put him above Obito or in a top ten probably doesn't make sense...and I'm honestly more of a Kakashi fsn. Don't really like Obito since hos reveal in personality shift to rather child like.

Nice analysis but you shouldn't go so hard on obito like that , he is still a Badass

i said a fight with itachi where he didnt know he MS, im very aware he had it i read the manga as well, thats why i wrote what i wrote

(and im going to assume you're out of real conversation topic if you are reduced to fixing my grammar)

In part2 kakashi was struggling to beat itachi's clone (30% of his chakra)
Kakashi is no where close in level with itachi ..

Obito should've expected to be fighting the best of the best in the world and eventually they would have figured out the secret to his kamui and when that happened he would have got whooped with his inferior taijutsu . I'm an Obito fan and I liked him because of his blatant don't give a shit about everyone attitude (declaring war on the world as one man) but if his gamble didn't work and he failed at it, I accept it and say if you were not 100% all round in taijutsu, genjutsu and everything else then you should've trained a bit more b4 declaring war. I'm more disappointed than mad that he lost.

As I said before he lost because he doesn't have enough chakra ..

 

[Tapey]

In part2 kakashi was struggling to beat itachi's clone (30% of his chakra)
Kakashi is no where close in level with itachi ..
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yes and thats Kakashi at the beginning of Part 2 i'm pretty sure he is a little bit stronger right now

 

[GrayParadise]

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Read that thread, there's nothing overrated about him. He's one of the most powerful shinobi we've been shown so far.

 

[Steven Segal]

yes and thats Kakashi at the beginning of Part 2 i'm pretty sure he is a little bit stronger right now

What kind of new ability kakashi has right now !?

He's at same level as he used to be in beginning of part2 ..