Kakashi and orochimaru are underestimated

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This has been a thought for a while now, why is it that kakashi and orochimaru are probably the only main characters with a vast arsenal of jutsu but we never really see the extent of what they are capable of.
Kakashi ninjutsu consist of
- Chidori/lighting cutter also his lighting release shadow clone
- 3 earth release techniques all being based on him setting up for an attack
- 3 water release jutsu each being very powerfull and chakra consuming techniques
- 1 Fire release: Great Fireball Technique
- 0 Wind release only being knowledgable about the chakra nature
- Rasengan which is only seen twice.
- His substitution jutsu which he uses with precise precision and cordination especially with his intellectual prowess.
- And basic shadow clone tech.
This may seem like a lot including him having the sharingan and ms. But if you think about it he is the "copy ninja of a thousand techniques" kakashi is a beast and it would be cool to see him use more ninjutsu.

Orchimaru on the other hand has only been seen using snake techniques but i thought that his sole purpose in life was to attain all the jutsu's in the world. One would think that because he has used body-switch technique so many times he would be seen using more than just snake related jutsu.
 
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of course they are, once naruto and sasuke surpassed them they were overlooked and overpowered. kakashi howver stills remains a threat. with his kamui he could learn to use tobi tech. orochimaru on the other hand, it depends on whether he gets enough power back, if he does its not like kakashi , guy, tsuande, killer bee, sasuke , or naruto and many other can't beat him now.
 

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of course they are, once naruto and sasuke surpassed them they were overlooked and overpowered. kakashi howver stills remains a threat. with his kamui he could learn to use tobi tech. orochimaru on the other hand, it depends on whether he gets enough power back, if he does its not like kakashi , guy, tsuande, killer bee, sasuke , or naruto and many other can't beat him now.

well said man similar to what i was thinking
 

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bare in mind that oro cant use his hands so he cannot make handseal's so he is obviously a lot weaker than wat he was, as for kakashi it would be cool to see him using more jutsu but its not him, everyone in the manga has specific jutsu's which they like to use reguardless if they can use more or not
 

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Hmm I like your reasoning very logic +rep for the effort
 
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bare in mind that oro cant use his hands so he cannot make handseal's so he is obviously a lot weaker than wat he was, as for kakashi it would be cool to see him using more jutsu but its not him, everyone in the manga has specific jutsu's which they like to use reguardless if they can use more or not
I see where you were trying to go but you made an error, think about what you just said. If kakashi wanted to be an individual then he wouldnt copy other ninjas techniques, being that he already is in a way because of his moniker. It is like kakashi to use a vast arsenal of jutsu hence him having the moniker "copy ninja kakashi". Also it would have to deal with more of the situation at hand, which technique would be better to use and would it be practical to use this technique in a battle.
Ex: Im sure kakashi had water release in his arsenal before ever fighting zabuza but instead he decided to copy his technique making zabuza believe that kakashi knew what he would do before even doing it also making zabuza have self doubt, which gave him the advantage in the fight.
Kakashi is a genius and he has his reasons.
 

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Kakashi has shown more jutsus than that but i understand what you want to say
 

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It is strange, because anytime someone made a thread about Oro he basically saying how godly he is and how he is the final villain just because he's in the manga from so long...so m8 i think he's putted on the other line not the this.
 

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oro has a vast arsenal and doesnt only consist of snakes. i dont think hes final villain. i think hes only here to show sasuke the knowledgable people. then he or they kill him again.
 

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Now Kakashi is overestimated.
 
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