Kakashi and his kamui(SPOILERS)

[Draphsin]

Well i believe the bigger the kamui, the stronger it is. So it literally means that the size of his kamui was 3times bigger after taking Kyubi's chakra

He literally says that he can move objects more often than usual. How can you deny this? :shrug:

 

[Bogard]

do you think kakashi got healed here

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kamui is still hax i guess

Considering that Kakashi only mentioned the fact he received Kurama's chakra

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, i don't think so. It's proven that being in Kyubi's chakra doesn't give you chakra since Gai even after being there was still out of chakra after. It's only when Kurama takes control and actually decides to give you chakra that it happens. So, so far he only received Kyubi's chakra once(well twice now if we count this chapter)

He literally says that he can move objects more often than usual. How can you deny this? :shrug:

I didn't deny that, but for my thread it's not that relevant. I'm talking about the size of kamui, not the number of time he is capable to use it. But talking about the number of time, i don't see where this info help us apart for future occasions maybe, since he used Kamui 5 or 6times before receiving it

 

[Champ]

Just when I thought Kakashi was moving up in the ranks, Kishi shoots him down

 

[Bogard]

Just when I thought Kakashi was moving up in the ranks, Kishi shoots him down

Well like i've said in my thread, not that much. The only thing sure now is that he can't kamui a Bijuu at once

 

[Draphsin]

I didn't deny that, but for my thread it's not that relevant. I'm talking about the size of kamui, not the number of time he is capable to use it. But talking about the number of time, i don't see where this info help us apart for future occasions maybe, since he used Kamui 5 or 6times before receiving it

No see what youre saying though is kakashi can use kamui multiple times regardless of the size of the object he's teleporting. im saying his capacity is about 2-3 because now you cant use his feats during tobis fight as relevent evedence because he's gotten chakra multiple times from kurama.

 

[Retsu]

He definitely loses all 1 shot kamui potential now, and it's limited to less than 5 uses per match

 

[Draphsin]

He definitely loses all 1 shot kamui potential now, and it's limited to less than 5 uses per match

This is what im saying

 

[Bogard]

No see what youre saying though is kakashi can use kamui multiple times regardless of the size of the object he's teleporting. im saying his capacity is about 2-3 because now you cant use his feats during tobis fight as relevent evedence because he's gotten chakra multiple times from kurama.

Not true. He only got Kyubi's chakra once during that battle. And it's

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. Before that, he already used kamui 5 or 6times

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi is still OP, admit it, you were all waiting for this so you could finally release the VS threads from kakashi's one shots, but nobody is safe.

Kakashi can kamui 5 times BEFORE receiving chakra, AND he was able to kamui himself BEFORE receiving chakra too. (don't forget that he did it 2 times, one after and one before)

Still he can kamui something 1/3 big as hachibi, and he did it 2 times (in and out)

So yeah kakashi is still OP, he is still top 15, he is still high kage level.

 

[Draphsin]

Not true. He only got Kyubi's chakra once during that battle. And it's

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. Before that, he already used kamui 5 or 6times

Dont forget here:

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and here too: (they didnt know it but they we're getting chakra, i can provide proof too)

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[Bogard]

Dont forget here:

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I thought it was already proven that he didn't receive chakra at that moment? He intended to give them chakra, but at the end, he couldn't and it's proven by the fact that Gai even after being in the chakra cloak was still out of chakra

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and here too: (they didnt know it but they we're getting chakra, i can provide proof too)

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Re-read the manga. Being in Kyubi's chakra cloak doesn't give chakra. It's when Kurama decides to share chakra with you that it happens, and for that to happen, he must take control of Naruto's body. That's the reason why he told Naruto that they should

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, something he explains better here:

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On the pic you posted, it was Naruto who was in control at that moment, so he couldn't have given them chakra since he wasn't able to control the chakra repartition at that moment. Concerning what Kakashi says, he is only wondering about the place where he is. It has nothing to do with a chakra reception.

Anyway the fact Kakashi mentions that it's when Kurama gave him chakra by touching his hand that he was able to use kamui to warp Hachibi automatically means that he never received Kurama's chakra before that moment

 

[Draphsin]

I thought it was already proven that he didn't receive chakra at that moment? He intended to give them chakra, but at the end, he couldn't and it's proven by the fact that Gai even after being in the chakra cloak was still out of chakra

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Re-read the manga. Being in Kyubi's chakra cloak doesn't give chakra. It's when Kurama decides to share chakra with you that it happens, and for that to happen, he must take control of Naruto's body. That's the reason why he told Naruto that they should

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, something he explains better here:

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On the pic you posted, it was Naruto who was in control at that moment, so he couldn't have given them chakra since he wasn't able to control the chakra repartition at that moment. Concerning what Kakashi says, he is only wondering about the place where he is. It has nothing to do with a chakra reception.

Anyway the fact Kakashi mentions that it's when Kurama gave him chakra by touching his hand that he was able to use kamui to warp Hachibi automatically means that he never received Kurama's chakra before that moment

kakashi mightve gotten a boost from kurama only once but those pics i showed you were indeed of him getting refilled because kakashi was about to die from using one more kamui on the tbbs and afterwards he's fine. (dont forget this is after kakashi and gai just came to naruto's aid with no rest, theres no way they would be able to keep that up)

and as for chapter 610 i think you need to reread the manga, heres kakashi after hes in the cloak

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here he is (and gai) before:

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oh and heres gai after too: (dont forget naruto doesnt have healing abilities, and gai uses physical attacks that cause strain on the body. Knowing this, we can safely say that gai wouldnt be "healthy" at all. He would just be full of chakra)

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[Bogard]

kakashi mightve gotten a boost from kurama only once but those pics i showed you were indeed of him getting refilled because kakashi was about to die from using one more kamui on the tbbs and afterwards he's fine. (dont forget this is after kakashi and gai just came to naruto's aid with no rest, theres no way they would be able to keep that up)

There were 6TBBs and he wanted to use 6kamuis to warp them. I don't see where it changes something

and as for chapter 610 i think you need to reread the manga, heres kakashi after hes in the cloak

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here he is (and gai) before:

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oh and heres gai after too: (dont forget naruto doesnt have healing abilities, and gai uses physical attacks that cause strain on the body. Knowing this, we can safely say that gai wouldnt be "healthy" at all. He would just be full of chakra)

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Like i've said, BM Naruto couldn't share chakra until this latest chapter. Only Kyubi could(i already posted the pic that explains it). I don't even understand why we are speculating about it since Kakashi already mentioned that he received Kyubi's chakra by himself, not by Naruto(he even made that precision) at the moment he took his hand(and we even see the pic of in FB). Before that moment, he used Kamui 5 or 6times. Which means that Kakashi can indeed use kamui at the very least 5 or 6times without Kyubi's chakra

 

[Draphsin]

There were 6TBBs and he wanted to use 6kamuis to warp them. I don't see where it changes something
Like i've said, BM Naruto couldn't share chakra until this latest chapter. Only Kyubi could(i already posted the pic that explains it). I don't even understand why we are speculating about it since Kakashi already mentioned that he received Kyubi's chakra by himself, not by Naruto(he even made that precision) at the moment he took his hand(and we even see the pic of in FB). Before that moment, he used Kamui 5 or 6times. Which means that Kakashi can indeed use kamui at the very least 5 or 6times without Kyubi's chakra

wow did you not even read what i wrote...im giving you proof that kakashi got a refill not a boost. When he got kurama's chakra he got a temporary powerup but before he just refilled. prime kakashi can use kamui 4 times MAX before getting chakra exhaustion. Idk why you think he's so op he's using a sharingan that's not even his and he still covers it most of the time because the chakra drainage is brutal on him.

 

[Bogard]

wow did you not even read what i wrote...im giving you proof that kakashi got a refill not a boost. When he got kurama's chakra he got a temporary powerup but before he just refilled. prime kakashi can use kamui 4 times MAX before getting chakra exhaustion. Idk why you think he's so op he's using a sharingan that's not even his and he still covers it most of the time because the chakra drainage is brutal on him.

And i'm telling you that Kyubi never refilled his chakra at that moment since Naruto was the one in control when they were in his chakra cloak and he couldn't share chakra. Kakashi never mentioned the fact he received chakra before Kurama took his hand. Nothing in the manga even implies he received chakra before that moment. So the 5 or 6kamuis he used are valid. If Kakashi is Op or not isn't the point. I'm only using mangafacts here. Sad that you don't understand mangafacts or you simply refuse to see them?

 

[Draphsin]

And i'm telling you that Kyubi never refilled his chakra at that moment since Naruto was the one in control when they were in his chakra cloak and he couldn't share chakra. Kakashi never mentioned the fact he received chakra before Kurama took his hand. Nothing in the manga even implies he received chakra before that moment. So the 5 or 6kamuis he used are valid. If Kakashi is Op or not isn't the point. I'm only using mangafacts here. Sad that you don't understand mangafacts or you simply refuse to see them?

no youre not youre fanboy'ing on a character that said himself that he isnt as strong as you riders thought. Whos talking here? And what does he say?

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its kurama who was in control of the cloak as he was talking through it. He also says he's gonna restore gai, kakashi and the clone. Gai still looks injured because his attacks are physical as ive said and kakashi just warped gyuki. thats why they look tired there but this proves that the chakra cloak refills chakra

 

[Bogard]

no youre not youre fanboy'ing on a character that said himself that he isnt as strong as you riders thought. Whos talking here? And what does he say?

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its kurama who was in control of the cloak as he was talking through it. He also says he's gonna restore gai, kakashi and the clone. Gai still looks injured because his attacks are physical as ive said and kakashi just warped gyuki. thats why they look tired there but this proves that the chakra cloak refills chakra

This action happened after Kakashi already used kamui 5 or 6times, so what's the point?

Furthermore, i wasn't even talking about this pic, but the other one you posted. Here it's kurama i never denied that. What i denied though is the fact that he gave him chakra at that moment

 

[Draphsin]

I wasn't talking about this pic, but the other one you posted. Here it's kurama i never denied that. Lets say he gave him chakra at that moment, what you don't understand is that this action happened already after Kakashi using kamui 5 or 6times, so it changes nothing

This proves that the chakra cloak is kurama meaning anybody inside gets refilled. Thats my point and thats why i posted the first pic because he did the same thing there

 

[Bogard]

This proves that the chakra cloak is kurama meaning anybody inside gets refilled. Thats my point and thats why i posted the first pic because he did the same thing there

And i proved you that it's not possible since on the first pic, Kurama wasn't in control, but Naruto. Your just denying mangafacts here

 

[Draphsin]

And i proved you that it's not possible since on the first pic, Kurama wasn't in control, but Naruto. Your just denying mangafacts here

LMAO the chakra cloak is kurama how can you deny that SMFH :sy:

here....naruto says "lets go kurama" meaning he's about to fight along side him.

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This is proven when kurama immediately appears as a cloak and blows back the other bijuu

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Oh was that naruto who screamed like a 9 tailed demon fox? /sarcasm