r u blind the thread maker said that chikabu tensei and dedo mazo r restrictedoh really ? then tell me how they counter
-chibaku tensei
-gedo mazo
-ultimate shinra tensei
-multiple BOSS summon
r u blind the thread maker said that chikabu tensei and dedo mazo r restrictedoh really ? then tell me how they counter
-chibaku tensei
-gedo mazo
-ultimate shinra tensei
-multiple BOSS summon
Chibaku: Kamuioh really ? then tell me how they counter
-chibaku tensei
-gedo mazo
-ultimate shinra tensei
-multiple BOSS summon
8th gate is banned, so it's not a factor.Well we dont really know anything about the 8th gate other then that if you use it, you die. I cant wait till we see Guy use the 8th gate and show how uber he really is 6-6
only gedo mazo carlos, shinra tensei and its looks like you don't read it too carlosr u blind the thread maker said that chikabu tensei and dedo mazo r restricted
Chibaku: Kamui
gedo: banned
village buster push: banned
Multiple boss summons: huge problem unless they kill the animal path fast
Lol, i'm not one of those fanboys or anything, it just makes sense. Itachi demonstrated that if get rid of the black ball, the attack ends. What better way to get rid of a ball the size of your hand than warp it into another dimension?only gedo mazo carlos, shinra tensei and its looks like you don't read it too carlos
am outta here LOL
you made it sound like they are fighting deva alone the other paths are there too distract and hold them off.My bad, I confused it with chibaku tensai. Shinra tensai's weakness is the 5 second recharge period which he pretty much died trying to figure out in the first fight. With that known tho, they both have the speed to exploit the 5 second interval.
gai holding the summon? did you know how many summon pain has? How many will gai hold off? The are some he can't even see. Naruto's odama rasengan didn't kill the summon i doubt anything short of 6 gates gai will suffice. And you also forget the paths can be revived by hell realm. Your first statement is stupid and unlogical, kakashi will kamui deva and guy will kill preta while the other paths will be watching doing nothing. And i doubt anything short of gates tech will kill paths kick and punches won't do because of shared vision and their durability. The first thing six tail did is shoot a bijuu ball at the chibaku tensei and it didn't help and you also forget that sm jiraiya didn't land any attack on the paths because of the shared vision and their cordination.Kamui kills Deva, Guy kills Preta then the rest will be easy because Guy can hold off summons while Kakashi kills the summoner(Kamui, Lightning Hound, Lightning chain,genjutsu), Raikiri kills Human path while Guy can beat up Naraka path and Asura path too. CT is a small sphere which Kakashi can Kamui away before it gathers much rocks so its useless, Kakashi would have lost some chakra but they win.
He can hold them off by drawing them away with some kicks and punches(he Has 5/5 strength in his stats) enhanced by Lotus to give Kakashi the chance to go underground and kill Animal Path. To further distract Pain, Kakashi can use a clone to make Pain think he's still there.gai holding the summon? did you know how many summon pain has? How many will gai hold off? The are some he can't even see. Naruto's odama rasengan didn't kill the summon i doubt anything short of 6 gates gai will suffice. And you also forget the paths can be revived by hell realm. Your first statement is stupid and unlogical, kakashi will kamui deva and guy will kill preta while the other paths will be watching doing nothing. And i doubt anything short of gates tech will kill paths kick and punches won't do because of shared vision and their durability. The first thing six tail did is shoot a bijuu ball at the chibaku tensei and it didn't help and you also forget that sm jiraiya didn't land any attack on the paths because of the shared vision and their cordination.
if gai is holdin the summon then that means kakashi is fighting 5 paths including asura and deva and preta doubt kakashi will be abke to kill any paths among the 5paths alone.He can hold them off by drawing them away with some kicks and punches(he Has 5/5 strength in his stats) enhanced by Lotus to give Kakashi the chance to go underground and kill Animal Path. To further distract Pain, Kakashi can use a clone to make Pain think he's still there.
Guy holds off summons Kakashi's lightning clone charges the other paths. Deva repels him or draws him in for a kill, Kakashi dispels it to conserve chakra and all this gives Kakashi enough time to Kamui Animal paths head off from behind the whole battle(he goes underground to get behind them) all the summons disperse then Kakashi and Gai take on the other 5, Deva uses Shinra Tensei, Kakashi uses water wall behind himself to cushion the blast then Guy takes advantage of the five second interval and uses the 7th gate to slaughter the paths with high speed, Deva may survive as all the remaining paths will sheild him then he uses Shinra Tensei on Guy who will survive with the last remnants of Lotus he has then Kakashi comes up behind him again and uses Kamui during the interval on his head. If any paths still remain alive they will be easily slaughtered because they will be wounded severely by the 7th gate.if gai is holdin the summon then that means kakashi is fighting 5 paths including asura and deva and preta doubt kakashi will be abke to kill any paths among the 5paths alone.
After reading this war arc, I must say this battle can go either way and depends on a lot of thing. I know people are thinking "WTF HOW CAN THEY BEAT PAIN!!!" "KAKASHI WITH BACKUP LOST AGAINST 2 BODIES!" "AND GAI IS ON HIS LEVEL SO THEY AINT GOING TO DO MUCH BETTER!"Kakashi and Guy have any knowledge they have now, and also have 5 of the swords of the 7 swordsmen at their disposal. Pain knows that Guy is a taijutsu master, and knows about Kakashi's kamui and lightning clones.
Location: Where the 5 kages are fighting Madara.
Restrictions:
Kakashi: none
Guy: 8th gate
Pain: village buster push, gedo mazo
Who wins and why?
Read the first part of that, and that's exactly what i was thinking when i created this thread. Also nice to see somebody thinking out a full battle. And no, you arent wanking kakashi and guy when i see somebody else making a thread about them surpassing the sannin. :izuna:After reading this war arc, I must say this battle can go either way and depends on a lot of thing. I know people are thinking "WTF HOW CAN THEY BEAT PAIN!!!" "KAKASHI WITH BACKUP LOST AGAINST 2 BODIES!" "AND GAI IS ON HIS LEVEL SO THEY AINT GOING TO DO MUCH BETTER!"
Now let me explain why this battle could go either way.
-Kakashi is the smartest character in this matchup.
-Gai stated they have counter to Pain's abilities.
Now, people seem to forget one important thing. Kakashi could've potentially defeated Deva (the most powerful body) before backup even arrived.
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Demon Realm was paralysed by Kakashi's Raibushin, and because God Realm had just used Banshou Tenin he was unable to use any of his gravity powers for another 5 seconds. Not only this, but God Realm was completely unaware of Kakashi's location (as he was hiding withint the rubble) and both God Realm's and Demon Realm's back were turned to him. This means that neither Realm would have been able to see where Kakashi was coming from, and being that one was completely paralysed and the other was unable to use his jutsu, they would of had no way of evading Kakashi's surprise attack. We saw that even with Kakuzu (a ninja with far more experience than either Nagato or Kakashi), Kakashi was able to easily sneek up on him without the slightest detection from Kakuzu. I don't see God Realm and Demon Realm being able to detect Kakashi in such a situation. because Chouji and Chouza's attack was dodged by God Realm, that Kakashi's attack would be dodged as well is totally insufficient. Firstly, their attack came from above. With simple periphial vision, a person can tell if something as large as to huge ass fists are flying towards them. Reacting to a lightning fast attack that is coming completely from behind is something totally different.
And let's not forget Kakashi figured out the 5 second interval while fighting the most powerful bodies.
So when you break it down and not look at in such a sipmlistic fashion, you will relealise Kakashi was about to take out Deva path, and possibly Asura.
He still had half his chakra left at that point.
Keep in mind this Kakashi is weaker than current Kakashi. (By feats anyway)
KamuiLet's not overlook Kakashi's most powerful move, this time he won't be using it to save fodder.
Misconception "OH BUT KAKASHI MISSED AGAINST DEIDARA HOW WILL IT WORK AGAINST PAIN!!!!???!!!!"
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Now we have Maito Gai
Who in his gated form is the fastest character in this matchup, by far.
Gai and Kakashi have decent knowledge here.
Gai might actually do very well here. He'll start off by activating the gates and charging at the Deva path, forcing him to use Shinra Tensei. Then, he can use attacks like Asa Kujaku or Hirudora: the Preta path will likely try to absorb it and get a ball of fire to the face for its troubles. With knowledge, Gai will make sure to get the Naraka path first. Quite a few of the paths might be killed in the initial assault; and he has Kakashi hatake to back him up.
We have seen in this war both of them have great synergy, and have energy to fight despite fighting over a full day against the ledgendary swordsman.
HOWEVER. Pain has shared vision and he knows how dangerous Kakashi is, so he himself has the jutsu to take them out.
So IMO, if this fight were to happen in the manga it could go either way. Although DEVA can go BOOM and take them out.
I know some people will think I'm "Wanking Gai and Kakashi" but those who don't underestimate Kakashi and Gai will know what I'm saying.