Kakashi and Guy vs Muu

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gai and kakashi, no logic needed, kakashi can use gates and kamui, guy 8 gates and kakashi...well, 6 gates and kamui spam, they win low-mid diff
I agree that Kakashi and Guy wins. But, your points aren't really that valid. Kakashi can only use the 1st Gate. Kakashi can't spam Kamui.
My points:
Kakashi has topnotch senses, he can smell or hear Muu. There's no way Muu would hit Guy with jinton, Muu can't use it while invisible. Kakashi can possibly Kamui Muu while he's preparing jinton.
 

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I agree that Kakashi and Guy wins. But, your points aren't really that valid. Kakashi can only use the 1st Gate. Kakashi can't spam Kamui.
My points:
Kakashi has topnotch senses, he can smell or hear Muu. There's no way Muu would hit Guy with jinton, Muu can't use it while invisible. Kakashi can possibly Kamui Muu while he's preparing jinton.
I think it would take the ninja dogs for Kakashi to sense Muu but they'd have to get a hit on him first... and that seems unlikely because they come from the ground and Muu is flying. Their noses might help but if Muu is flying it's likely he's high up enough for the wind to be blowing away his scent. This is all if Muu can even be sensed by smell, which is not shown. The "presence" of Muu that can't be sensed might mean smell. There is no evidence that Muu can't use jinton while invisible; in fact, more lends toward the idea that he can. And Muu's jinton can be large enough to encompass the whole battlefield so hitting Gai anyway doesn't seem like much of a problem. imo jinton>kamui. It's about the same speed but with much larger area, and if Kakashi doesn't know where Muu is when jinton is released there's no chance. I'd still say Muu high difficulty though because of the skill of these two.
 

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I think it would take the ninja dogs for Kakashi to sense Muu but they'd have to get a hit on him first... and that seems unlikely because they come from the ground and Muu is flying. Their noses might help but if Muu is flying it's likely he's high up enough for the wind to be blowing away his scent. This is all if Muu can even be sensed by smell, which is not shown. The "presence" of Muu that can't be sensed might mean smell. There is no evidence that Muu can't use jinton while invisible; in fact, more lends toward the idea that he can. And Muu's jinton can be large enough to encompass the whole battlefield so hitting Gai anyway doesn't seem like much of a problem. imo jinton>kamui. It's about the same speed but with much larger area, and if Kakashi doesn't know where Muu is when jinton is released there's no chance. I'd still say Muu high difficulty though because of the skill of these two.
Well, if it isn't Muu himself....lol. But dude, Kakashi doesn't need the dogs to smell Muu. Wow man, Kakashi's a main character, you should know more about him. Kakashi has a great sense of smell and hearing. His smelling even competes with Kiba's. And, Muu have never been shown using jinton while invisible. He always turns visible when he's about to use jinton. While he's forming the handsign to use it, he is stationary, which gives plenty of time for Guy to jump up and attack him from the back and for Kakashi to kamui him. WOW, Guy in gates mode is easily faster than jinton, evading it wouldn't be a problem for him. Kakashi has the wits and the arsenal to be a great nuisance for Muu imo. But, its a tough battle. 2 low kage level shinobi vs 1 high kage level shinobi. I say the duo mid-high dif
 

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Well, if it isn't Muu himself....lol. But dude, Kakashi doesn't need the dogs to smell Muu. Wow man, Kakashi's a main character, you should know more about him. Kakashi has a great sense of smell and hearing. His smelling even competes with Kiba's. And, Muu have never been shown using jinton while invisible. He always turns visible when he's about to use jinton. While he's forming the handsign to use it, he is stationary, which gives plenty of time for Guy to jump up and attack him from the back and for Kakashi to kamui him. WOW, Guy in gates mode is easily faster than jinton, evading it wouldn't be a problem for him. Kakashi has the wits and the arsenal to be a great nuisance for Muu imo. But, its a tough battle. 2 low kage level shinobi vs 1 high kage level shinobi. I say the duo mid-high dif
Kakashi's smell and hearing are enough to sense a camoflauged grounded fodder, not an aerial Muu, the god of invisibility, who is quite a distance up and in the wind which obscures scent and sound. And like I said, the "presence" of Muu that can't be sensed may be his scent, which means no matter how good Kakashi's smell is he won't be able to tell where Muu is. It hasn't been shown that Muu can't use jinton while invisible. Most likely the only reason he did so is because he was already sensed and so there was no point to invisibility. Though Muu is stationary for a second, I can't see Gai leaping up hundreds of feet in the air fast enough to hit him before a jinton goes. There is no back of his to attack when he's far above, and anyway he can sense so going behind him wouldn't help. Why Gai can't avoid jinton is because of its scale, not its speed. It can dust the whole battlefield no matter how quick Gai is. Kamui might be trouble but I still say Muu jintons the duo before Kakashi's kamui kills him.
 

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This is a possible scenario I thought of. I can't use it for this thread since it's my perspective and not everything is fact but still xD

>Mu turns invisible on them.
>Kakashi uses the hidden mist to block Mu's vision as well.
>Mu uses his sensory abilities and finds them, "surprising" the two by stabbing them in the back with his sword.
>The real Kakashi and Guy pop out of the ground elsewhere with Pakkun near them. Using his nose, Pakkun tells the two where Mu is using the clone's blood as a scent (clones actually do bleed).
>Guy uses some of the gates and throws Kakashi at the opponent at high speeds, who has his Raikiri ready.
>Mu senses them this time and dodges Kakashi's attack, leaving him helpless.
>Guy opens more gates and charges at him, unable to use AT with Kakashi there, he uses Morning Peacock to scout the area.
>Mu gets hit by one of them and has his cloth ignite on fire from the attack.
>The duo sees this and Guy orders Kakashi out of this way so he can "finish" this.
>Guy uses AT, but Mu uses his Jinton at the same time. Unfortunately for Guy, this time the opponent's attack is stronger and Guy gets vaporized.
>Kakashi, in rage, decides to Kamui Mu.
>Mu is forced to split in order to evade complete death, yet Kakashi is unaware of this.
>Mu ends up stabbing a miserable Kakashi, killing him

Since Mu ended up having to split himself, it's high difficulty.

Crap I forgot that Guy starts in the 6th gate too >_>
 

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I agree that Kakashi and Guy wins. But, your points aren't really that valid. Kakashi can only use the 1st Gate. Kakashi can't spam Kamui.
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Kakashi has topnotch senses, he can smell or hear Muu. There's no way Muu would hit Guy with jinton, Muu can't use it while invisible. Kakashi can possibly Kamui Muu while he's preparing jinton.
Come on ! how can kakashi smell or hear muu.
That's over exaggeration, even the best sensor ninja's couldn't sense his presence.
 

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If Muu becomes invisible he can't use Jinton. By using jinton he must accumulate chakra and with the sharingan Kakashi could notice it. Kakashi makes a raiton kage bunshin and hide underground. The clone will try to notice Muus position the same way like he did against the invisible guy in Kakashi gaiden(by smelling and hearing sounds). In invisible mode, Muu would try to attack in close combat. If he hurts the raiton kage bunshin, he will be paralyse. At that time, Kakashi could come out and finish the fight. Guy could also go 6 or 7th gates and finish him with a combo at that moment

But i think Muu won't use his invisible mode while fighting(cuz it has a great advantage to surpise an ennemy, but you can't attack using ninjutsus or things like that). So during the fight, most of the time, i think he won't use this mode. He will probably want to kill Kakashi and Guy with Jinton. If he manage to spamm it really quickly he wins. But Kakashi could actually decide to launch kamui quickly(while Muu prepare his jinton) to finish him before that, the same way like against Deidara.

Anyway every time Kakashi has no other choice, he uses kamui and fighting Muu who can fly, being invisible, spamm dangerous techniques such as Jinton, i think he will decide to use it. Even if he doesn't use it from the start, after one use, he will have no choice but to have to use it
 

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Mu wins High diff, Mu can use soul split when in danger, have we forgotten that He has flight and invisibility. I know Kakashi can see chakra with his Sharingan but Mu's Dust release can cover a large area and every jutsu of his is a absolute kill.
 

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Kakashi's smell and hearing are enough to sense a camoflauged grounded fodder, not an aerial Muu, the god of invisibility, who is quite a distance up and in the wind which obscures scent and sound. And like I said, the "presence" of Muu that can't be sensed may be his scent, which means no matter how good Kakashi's smell is he won't be able to tell where Muu is. It hasn't been shown that Muu can't use jinton while invisible. Most likely the only reason he did so is because he was already sensed and so there was no point to invisibility. Though Muu is stationary for a second, I can't see Gai leaping up hundreds of feet in the air fast enough to hit him before a jinton goes. There is no back of his to attack when he's far above, and anyway he can sense so going behind him wouldn't help. Why Gai can't avoid jinton is because of its scale, not its speed. It can dust the whole battlefield no matter how quick Gai is. Kamui might be trouble but I still say Muu jintons the duo before Kakashi's kamui kills him.
Wow, okay I agree with you now about the scent thing. But, I still have to say 7th Gate Guy is fast enough to hit Muu while he's preparing jinton. It really sucks that ever since KM/BM Naruto shown his speed feats, people underrate Guy's speed. Dammit, I must also agree that Guy could get hit when jinton contacts with the ground, Guy can avoid it by sprinting far away, but I restricted leaving the battlefield...Also, Kakashi is sure to find a way to counter Muu, that's if Kakashi lives long enough to analyze Muu's abilites.
If Muu becomes invisible he can't use Jinton. By using jinton he must accumulate chakra and with the sharingan Kakashi could notice it. Kakashi makes a raiton kage bunshin and hide underground. The clone will try to notice Muus position the same way like he did against the invisible guy in Kakashi gaiden(by smelling and hearing sounds). In invisible mode, Muu would try to attack in close combat. If he hurts the raiton kage bunshin, he will be paralyse. At that time, Kakashi could come out and finish the fight. Guy could also go 6 or 7th gates and finish him with a combo at that moment

But i think Muu won't use his invisible mode while fighting(cuz it has a great advantage to surpise an ennemy, but you can't attack using ninjutsus or things like that). So during the fight, most of the time, i think he won't use this mode. He will probably want to kill Kakashi and Guy with Jinton. If he manage to spamm it really quickly he wins. But Kakashi could actually decide to launch kamui quickly(while Muu prepare his jinton) to finish him before that, the same way like against Deidara.

Anyway every time Kakashi has no other choice, he uses kamui and fighting Muu who can fly, being invisible, spamm dangerous techniques such as Jinton, i think he will decide to use it. Even if he doesn't use it from the start, after one use, he will have no choice but to have to use it
I agree with everything except the raiton clone part. How will the clone paralyze Muu? Muu's not gonna try to jinton Kakashi point blank. He'll be far up, out of reach of the raiton clone
Eternal rivals low-mid difficulty.
I agree they win, but c'mon! Saying they win low dif is trolling

Let's not overate Muu, team kakashi low difficulty.
Again with the low dif, wtf? They win HIGH dif
 

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pretty sure Muu will have a really hard time with any one of these guys.
Muu will go down hard and fast if its against all 2 at the same time.

Muu can face any of these guys 1v1 though im not saying that he would win 100% , all 2 of them at the same time is impossible for him.
 
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