Kakashi and Gai vs Naruto and Sasuke

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Masters can win. Sasuke would defeat Kakashi but Kakashi might be able to drag this on till Gai comes in.

- Sasuke is superior but Kakashi can put up a good fight. Kakashi's clone managed to react to Itachi(Not the real Itachi but also a clone of Kakashi ) and his combat ability is pretty sound being able to take on Base Gai in Taijutsu to a certain degree from a young age. He can fend, use clones to assist him and distract Sasuke( Similar manner ) alongside his underground tactics to play safe.

- Manda would be troublesome but can also be dealt with. A mistake as Kakashi also has the Sharingan enabling him to cancel it. In this case, Manda only goes to punish Sasuke for putting him in a Genjutsu. Same case for other summons.

- KCM Naruto is facing Gai, who demolishes him if he comes close. Hirudora can wipe and Naruto and his clones plus Gai himself can race through clones like this if he knows who he's going for like in the middle and bottom( ), clearly that's risky but if he sees anything suggesting the real from the fake, it's plausible. After all, he'll just hit a clone, know it's fake and then get out of the way. AT's execution surpasses any jutsu Naruto can pull out especially as a defense to the taijutsu. The distance isn't too bad for this. Naruto's attacks can't hit Gai who won't be still

- Gai dodges his attacks if he's ever in such position ,

Not much to say as this is all I can think of now but the Masters win in my opinion. Well at least for now till some strong counters come in.
 
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When sasuke can match obito in genjutsu, or drop 2 ppl at once with genjutsu call me.
Well, Sasuke has the feat of overpowering/binding(using the same genjutsu Itachi did) Orochimaru in his own world during the body swap. Kakashi only saw through his genjutsu right and released it. Besides didn't itachi say you can't fool someone with the same eyes.
 

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Well, Sasuke has the feat of overpowering/binding(using the same genjutsu Itachi did) Orochimaru in his own world during the body swap. Kakashi only saw through his genjutsu right and released it. Besides didn't itachi say you can't fool someone with the same eyes.
they were using genjutsu on each other.

Sasuke never used a binding genjutsu on oro like itachi did (in fact idk what he did there but it wasn't genjutsu)

Having the same eyes doesn't mean kakashi can't overlay his genjutsu on manda and or cancel sasuke's genjutsu on manda.
 

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Masters can win. Sasuke would defeat Kakashi but Kakashi might be able to drag this on till Gai comes in.

- Sasuke is superior but Kakashi can put up a good fight. Kakashi's clone managed to react to Itachi(Not the real Itachi but also a clone of Kakashi ) and his combat ability is pretty sound being able to take on Base Gai in Taijutsu to a certain degree from a young age. He can fend, use clones to assist him and distract Sasuke( Similar manner ) alongside his underground tactics to play safe.

- Manda would be troublesome but can also be dealt with. A mistake as Kakashi also has the Sharingan enabling him to cancel it. In this case, Manda only goes to punish Sasuke for putting him in a Genjutsu. Same case for other summons.

- KCM Naruto is facing Gai, who demolishes him if he comes close. Hirudora can wipe and Naruto and his clones plus Gai himself can race through clones like this if he knows who he's going for like in the middle and bottom( ), clearly that's risky but if he sees anything suggesting the real from the fake, it's plausible. After all, he'll just hit a clone, know it's fake and then get out of the way. AT's execution surpasses any jutsu Naruto can pull out especially as a defense to the taijutsu. The distance isn't too bad for this. Naruto's attacks can't hit Gai who won't be still

- Gai dodges his attacks if he's ever in such position ,

Not much to say as this is all I can think of now but the Masters win in my opinion. Well at least for now till some strong counters come in.
Delete this post before I make you regret ever posting it.
 

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Masters can win. Sasuke would defeat Kakashi but Kakashi might be able to drag this on till Gai comes in.

- Sasuke is superior but Kakashi can put up a good fight. Kakashi's clone managed to react to Itachi(Not the real Itachi but also a clone of Kakashi ) and his combat ability is pretty sound being able to take on Base Gai in Taijutsu to a certain degree from a young age. He can fend, use clones to assist him and distract Sasuke( Similar manner ) alongside his underground tactics to play safe.
Gai isn't taking out Naruto anyways. That was a 30% clone of Itachi don't even mention that in Kakashi favor at all when 3tomoe Sasuke can dodge and counter attack someone as fast as v1 Ei[ ]. Kakashi can try and use clones but once Manda plus the pressure of cm1 Sasuke he gets ripped open. Underground tactics are completely useless when the Sharingan can see chakra through objects.

- Manda would be troublesome but can also be dealt with. A mistake as Kakashi also has the Sharingan enabling him to cancel it. In this case, Manda only goes to punish Sasuke for putting him in a Genjutsu. Same case for other summons.
That's fair but the likely hood of him needing Manda to actually defeat Kakashi is only needed if he's trying to go for the quick kill.

- KCM Naruto is facing Gai, who demolishes him if he comes close. Hirudora can wipe and Naruto and his clones plus Gai himself can race through clones like this if he knows who he's going for like in the middle and bottom( ), clearly that's risky but if he sees anything suggesting the real from the fake, it's plausible. After all, he'll just hit a clone, know it's fake and then get out of the way. AT's execution surpasses any jutsu Naruto can pull out especially as a defense to the taijutsu. The distance isn't too bad for this. Naruto's attacks can't hit Gai who won't be still

- Gai dodges his attacks if he's ever in such position ,
Not if Naruto engages Gai using his clones. Hirudora can only wipe Naruto clones out if there at a distance and all right next to him which won't be possible when Naruto will send his clones at Gai to attack him from a 360 while the real Naruto can use his Transformation tech to disguise himself as a tree or a rock while Gai simply fights clones. Gai can't stay in 7gates no longer than 7 or 8mins so he won't be dodging anything for long.

]Not much to say as this is all I can think of now but the Masters win in my opinion. Well at least for now till some strong counters come in.
Now concede.
 
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And why wouldn't Naruto be able to stop Gai from blitzing Sasuke?
If he uses shadow clones to block Gai's blitz attempt with their bodies, Gai just takes them out with Asakujaku. How specifically would Naruto even go about doing that? (Stopping Gai's blitz).
 

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Lmao to think Gai would become this overrated. He is not and will not ever be able to take out KCM Naruto just like that so every and anyone making that argument should stop.
Literally the only thing Gai has to do is this.

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But Naruto can't counter it.
 

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Literally the only thing Gai has to do is this.

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But Naruto can't counter it.
Gai has to be the most wanked char of all time. You'd think after all that BS Evani sprouted in that last thread and got owned he would have learned his lesson but na. I don't think Naruto can stop Gai attacking Sasuke but while he's doing that Naruto KM clones rape 3tomoe Kakashi. Once Gai uses Hirudora he'll be drained and 7th gate will wear off pretty quickly after and Naruto cleans him up.
 

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Literally the only thing Gai has to do is this.

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But Naruto can't counter it.
In terms of raw movement speed Gai is either as fast as or slower than Naruto. If Gai rushes Naruto and tries to initiate CQC all Naruto creates distance and then creates clones. Please don't cite the feat against Madara as some kind of evidence here when the feat is when he was pushing Madara back, which isn't because of raw movement speed. It's because of his reflexes and striking speed combined with his movement speed.

So yes, if Naruto stupidly tries to engage Gai in CQC then he dies in a matter of seconds. If he plays smart then he has a chance.


If he uses shadow clones to block Gai's blitz attempt with their bodies, Gai just takes them out with Asakujaku. How specifically would Naruto even go about doing that? (Stopping Gai's blitz).
That doesn't matter. This means that his blitz is stopped and then Naruto engages him.

-Gai rushes at Naruto.
-Naruto rushes at Gai and intercepts him with Ninjutsu or clones.
-Gai has to deal with that thus his blitz is stopped.
 

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That doesn't matter. This means that his blitz is stopped and then Naruto engages him.

-Gai rushes at Naruto.
-Naruto rushes at Gai and intercepts him with Ninjutsu or clones.
-Gai has to deal with that thus his blitz is stopped.
-Gai rushes at Sasuke.
-Naruto's clones intercept and valiantly attempt to protect Sasuke with their bodies.
-Gai reacts and fires off wide scale Asakujaku, killing Naruto's clones and Sasuke in one fell swoop.
 

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-Gai rushes at Sasuke.
-Naruto's clones intercept and valiantly attempt to protect Sasuke with their bodies.
-Gai reacts and fires off wide scale Asakujaku, killing Naruto's clones and Sasuke in one fell swoop.
Uh, no. :lol This plan assumes that Naruto waited till the last minute to intercept Gai instead of simply doing the smart thing and rushing Gai the moment he tries to rush Sasuke. The match starts from 40m away. Good luck arguing that Gai will cross that and reach Sasuke's position without Naruto stopping him. Not to mention Sasuke would survive Asa Kujaku w/ Curse Mark Level 2's wings.

-40m distance.
-Gai rushes at Sasuke.
-Naruto rushes at Gai.
-Gai never reaches Sasuke's position or anywhere close enough to let him take out Sasuke in one fell swoop.
 

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trying to act like Sasuke is some type of damsel in distress type shit He summons Manda to start while Gai opening his gates Manda can then attack Gai or just curl around Naruto and Sasuke while he gets his clones out also Gai cannot even look at Sasuke while fighting him that straight forward rush bs is not happening.

Morning peacock is weak cmon a fodder barely died to it Sasuke took much worse in his battle with deidara and he has oral rebirth.


Why do people act like the gates last longer than a moment? the gates have literally never been used longer than a moment besides the 8th gate like people be talking like gai can fight a whole fight in the lower gates, not possible.
 
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