Kakashi and Gai have surpassed the sannin

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i dnt think its not count how much power or jutsu they got its all about many ability they have with knowledge as well.

t suna got fighting and healing as well smething so usefull in battle as we saw already.

oro is genius no matter wt his way is

jiraiya hope you remember how was he in first and how he cme to the top
 
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i miss jiriayah ;_; :'(
 

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No they haven't.Gai only power is the 8 gates and to go to the highest level of the gates he has to died.Kakashi only op ability is Kamui, a borrow power that causes blindness.Jiraiya's a sage, Tsunade can go nearly immortal, and Orochimaru makes Kakashi s**ts his pants.The sannin will be above Kakashi and Gai now and maybe forever.
 
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i feel that the sannin can not be beaten by guy and kakashi in a 2 on 2 team fight
one against one only kakashi trumps tsunade , guy can beat tsunade but i guess he'd have to use the eighth gate because i doubt hirudora can cause enough damage so as to kill her , moreover jiraiya's proficiency over even e rank techniques and his unending senjustu ( because of the two toads) will give him an edge over both kakashi and guy ,total extent of orochimaru's powers has not yet been revealed but he was able to beat naruto's 4 tailed form with a dying body and no hands so i's day with his hands and a proper body (one that contains senju dna) he'll beat both of them , and if you include his snake senjutsu as well he might even beat both together
 

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SM jiraya is pretty debatable against kakashi and he defeats guy but they have surpassed orochimaru and Tsunade no doubt...!
 

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They surpassed Tsunade in part one and are currently on the same level as the rest of the Sannin.
 

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I think they surpassed them.
 

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They might win if they get lucky, but I doubt they surpassed them. Those two reached their limits long time ago. They are no 15-16 years old
 

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I don't think so...
Jiraiya has SM, Tsunade is almost immortal with Byakugo, Oro is so damn hard to kill...
but Kakashi and Gai has improved greatly during the war..
 

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When you say "sannin", I hope you are only referring to Jiraiaya and Orochimaru, because kakashi and guy were always better than Tsunade...
 

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For those saying jiraiya has sage mode well it takes him forever to achieve that mode and he's vulnerable while he's preparing so guy Perry much takes him out in that situation with the gates and kakashi uses kamui.
 

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Kakashi and guy are stronger than the sannin in their sannin days.
As of right now?
They both beat j man and tsunade.
But we don't know about oro. Dude might get dsm do to being 100% hashi cells. And on top of that he has the 4 strongest kages under his belt.
 

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I think it's pretty damn debatable. The two have been progressing throughout the manga the entire time since their appearance... I give the Sannin a slight edge though. Though I think Gai and Kakashi could probably take Tsunade 6-7 times out of 10

Together, they take her 10 times out of 10.

Tsunade isn't regenerating a head. ;)
 

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Kakashi (Obito s rival who can solo the sanin) surely beats them with his current Kamui spam (6 times without any kurama chakra) and the sannin dosent have anything on Kamui as for gai his 8 gates are op he can beat them too
 

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Of course they surpassed them. Kakashi and Gai have been far more relevant than any of the Sannin have in the current times. Regurgitating Part I hype and ignoring anything that has been happening over the past 600 chapters is the only way one could say otherwise.

Tsunade's performance is utterly pathetic compared to what Gai and Kakashi have been accomplishing. She was flattened against Pain, accomplished nothing against Madara barring breaking a Susano'o ribcage with help from Onoki and Raikage's strike, and hasn't done anything of note on the current battlefield. Compare that to Gai shattering a superior version of Susano'o, Kakashi defeating Obito in singles combat, and the fact that both of them have been praised by current Madara and are among the select few playing an active role in what is probably the manga's the final battle.

Jiraiya admitted inferiority to three support paths of Pain, and only managed to defeat them with a Genjutsu that he didn't even know existed prior to the battle. Sure, Kakashi lost to two paths, but are we really going to compare Human, Animal, and Preta to Deva and Asura? Saying Jiraiya "fought more bodies" is the most ridiculous argument one can put forth when it has been shown time and time again that the paths are not "equal" in any sense of the word. Naruto steam rolled five bodies and proceeded to get curb stomped by Deva.

Orochimaru hasn't done much either. He was flattened by a mindless V2 Naruto, the same V2's that Kakashi and Gai managed to keep pace with. Sure, Edo Tensei puts him on another tier, but it isn't an active part of his power. In Part I, he managed to summon two hardly Jonin level Kage's (feat-wise), and in Part II, he didn't manage to summon any of them without immense help from Sasuke. Furthermore, Hashirama casually broke out of his control, so there is no guarantee his Edo summons would work in his favor to begin with under a normal scenario. Even Tobirama would have broken out if Orochimaru wasn't juiced out on Zetsu cells.

Nope. Tsunade still beats Gai and would beat Kakashi but he has kamui and it one shots anyone instantly.

Don't worry,Kakashi doesn't need Kamui to beat Tsunade. All he needs is his speed, reflexes, and Raikiri to the skull. Perhaps a Shadow Clone or Genjutsu if he wants to be safe. Ditto for Gai, except replace Raikiri with boulder shattering punches in base, or perhaps 6th gated Asa Kujaku to the skull if you want to be safe.
 
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J-man alone put up a fight against multiple Pein forms, even destroyed one..Kakashi, well he died .
u mean frogs genjutsu or he had no chance even with sage mode. and kakashi fought with two strongest pain while next fought with fodder pain
 

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Kakashi & Gai have surpassed the sannin yea OFC
 

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these trolls.

ot- fuk no orochimaru solos them both
 

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with 8th Gated Gai, all three are top 10 (Gai, Kakashi, Orochimaru). Kakashi and Gai have certainly surpassed Tsunade and the Jman. Oro they can beat individually, but it'll be a tough battle. Well maybe not Gai, cause i don't know how he'll completely obliterate Oro so he can't use Oral Rebirth
 
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