Kakashi and Gai have surpassed the sannin

[The8thGateBeast]

Who agrees?
Also people saying oro is stronger now how? He still the same guy all he has is a zetsu body and from what I've seen having a zetsu body is hardly an improvement.

 

[Misconception]

Edo's are Orochimaru's main argument and it's a pretty decent argument as well...

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Edo's are Orochimaru's main argument and it's a pretty decent argument as well...

I always hate when someone brings the edo because then it's not a 1v1 it's like saying kabuto solos everyone because he has madara as his Edo summon.

 

[Kαmi]

I think it's pretty damn debatable. The two have been progressing throughout the manga the entire time since their appearance... I give the Sannin a slight edge though. Though I think Gai and Kakashi could probably take Tsunade 6-7 times out of 10

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

Kakashi & Gai have surpassed the sanin, BUT orochimaru's new body is 100% senju DNA.

But Kishi STILL hasn't shown what Orochimaru can really do. let us wait till that day!!

 

[WithDemonsToLeanOn]

Who agrees?
Also people saying oro is stronger now how? He still the same guy all he has is a zetsu body and from what I've seen having a zetsu body is hardly an improvement.

I dunno if I completely agree.
Now about Oro. C'mon man, you know how Naruto works. Anyone who gets even a slight amount of Hashirama cells almost octuple in power and reach some sort of god power.

But for real, over the years with all his experiments and such, Oro has gotten stronger than his Sannin days and stronger than when he was in part one and the beginning of part two. And a Zetsu body may not help DRASTICALLY, but it does help.

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Kakashi & Gai have surpassed the sanin, BUT orochimaru's new body is 100% senju DNA.

But Kishi STILL hasn't shown what Orochimaru can really do. let us wait till that day!!

Yeah until we see oro use his forbidden techs.

 

[villain55]

I think it's pretty damn debatable. The two have been progressing throughout the manga the entire time since their appearance... I give the Sannin a slight edge though. Though I think Gai and Kakashi could probably take Tsunade 6-7 times out of 10

I agree with this.

 

[Smirk]

J-man alone put up a fight against multiple Pein forms, even destroyed one..Kakashi, well he died .

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

Yeah until we see oro use his forbidden techs.

yuuuuuupp!

 

[The8thGateBeast]

J-man alone put up a fight against multiple Pein forms, even destroyed one..Kakashi, well he died .

But you can't deny kakashi has gotten a big power up since he's been able to spam kamui so fight between kakashi and jiraiya should be in kakashis favor.

 

[Misconception]

I always hate when someone brings the edo because then it's not a 1v1 it's like saying kabuto solos everyone because he has madara as his Edo summon.

If Edo's are restricted then Gai and Kakashi can take them...

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

lmao they got skills tho

 

[The8thGateBeast]

lmao they got skills tho

Yes they got super ninja skills.

 

[fortheevulz]

I don't think Kakashi can take down J-man, can't say the same thing about Gai however.

 

[Bantos]

Nope. Tsunade still beats Gai and would beat Kakashi but he has kamui and it one shots anyone instantly.
I'd say Jiraiya would lose against Gai and beats Kakashi if kamui is restricted.
Orochimaru beats Gai and Kakashi if kamui is restricted.

Kamui is the only thing that puts Kakashi over the the sannin.
Tsunade and Orochimaru can pretty much take everything Gai has to offer.

 

[Shogi]

I always hate when someone brings the edo because then it's not a 1v1 it's like saying kabuto solos everyone because he has madara as his Edo summon.

But it's one of his jutsu, it's like saying no clones are allowed because then that's not a 1v1

 

[Jeff Aka 47]

So you're saying that Kakashi and Gai are stronger than Jiraiya and Oro.? No man, just NO.! Probably Tsunade, but that's another story...

 

[Chibiusa]

J-man alone put up a fight against multiple Pein forms, even destroyed one..Kakashi, well he died .

Exactly. Neither had intel so it's pretty fair to compare. Jiraiya had a way harder battle tho

I don't think either of them have surpassed Jiraiya or even Orochimaru. I definitely think they can take Tsunade however without excruciating difficultly

 

[Mari Makinami]

I always hate when someone brings the edo because then it's not a 1v1 it's like saying kabuto solos everyone because he has madara as his Edo summon.

Your logic fails. Then summons do not count as well? It's not 1v1 after all.

OT: I'm sure Kakashi can win 1v1 against any of the Sannin due to Kamui