[Theory] Kaguya's Space-time Travel: The Link Between the Dimensions

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This place...This ground is my nursery. I cannot let you damage it anymore..Let's stop fighting. Here. I'll have you vanish right now!


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In this theory I would like to address the possibility of these castles seen throughout Kaguya's realms.

One basic difference I noted between these two castles was their fundamental architecture/structure.
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In a previous theory, I went over the influences of the Lava Castle in relation to Japanese Mythology.
Whereas the Lava Castle was very similar to Japanese Shrines and fit in nicely, the Ice Castle differs on this point.
To summarize:
the Castle on the Volcano relates nicely to the original Kaguya Bamboo legend in which her lover travels to Mount Fuji (stratovolcano) in hopes of sending Kaguya a message since Mount Fuji was thought to connect to the Earth with the Heavens. Many shrines are built there honoring this tradition.


If you examine above carefully, the Ice Castle has a more European-look to it in regards to architecture.
In fact, it looks almost identical to:
  • Neuschwanstein Castle:
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  • Hohenzollern Castle:
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  • Interestingly enough, both of these Castles are German and have been known to influence many structures/architecture. The Beauty and the Beast modeled its castle after Neuschwanstein as well. Now I could go on and mention relations to European Myths/Legends, but as that isn't my main point today I will talk about something else.
So firstly I'm trying to say that these Castles must serve a purpose greater than only aesthetics/looks.
Kishimoto probably wouldn't show these Castles if they did not have some sort of meaning. And that's what we will dwell into today, the meaning of these Castles and their Role.

I believe the Castles are the manual link between Kaguya's Space-time dimensions.
The reason why I believe this first stems from what Obito told us.

Obito states that the Time-Space is really 'vast' (great in size) and for Kaguya to connect them instantly is amazing.
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In fact Black Zetsu mentions that using it requires an immense amount of Chakra.
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So that caused me to think, if Kaguya was to over-use this too much/didn't have any Chakra she'd be screwed and stuck there. But I think the Castles are essentially the hidden door in case this were to happen.

Or basically I believe the Castles have the entrances to each of the dimensions in case the User lacks sufficient Chakra to travel through the Time-Spaces. It's essentially a safe-guard for Kaguya.

But you might be wondering why they're in such weird locations.
Or at this point on the top of Volcano and the top of an Ice Cliff. [ ][ ]

But that actually favors Kaguya if you think about it. They're located in such odd places just in case someone other than Kaguya tries to use them. Imagine trying to find a random castle in the middle of nowhere. It's pretty hard unless you're Kaguya, for she can use her Byakugan and quickly find the location.

Her Visual Ranges probably extends really far.
Byakugan Vision: (skip this section if you already understand why the above bold works)
Upon activating the Byakugan, the user is granted a 50 meter field of vision.
Neji goes from part 1 of 50 meters to over 800 meters in part 2. He quickly was able to analyze an entire area [ ][ ]

Furthermore, Hinata easily covered 10 kilometers of vision.[ ][ ]

Relating to Kaguya:
  • If Neji was able to cover 800 meters in a simple glance without effort, and Hinata (who wasn't too skilled at that point) was able to cover 10 Kilometers then-
  • Kaguya's Byakugan range could witness over countries, or even the entire planet.
So just to give you an idea:
  • Earth has a circumference of 40,075 kilometers.
  • Now let's just assume that at that point, Hinata's maximum visual range was 800 kilometers.
  • This means that if Hinata's Visual power was multiplied by about 50 times, her vision range could reach 40,075. (40,075/800 ≈ 50)
  • So to cover the whole circumference of the Earth, Kaguya would only need to have a vision sight that is 50 times greater than 800 Kilometers to match the circumference length.
Kaguya is much more advanced than Hinata so imagine her Range for Vision.
Byakugan also gives 360 degrees of Vision, enabling her massive vision over the vast planet.
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Whereas it might take someone like Sakura forever to find the Castle it wouldn't take that long for Kaguya.

My next reasoning to believe that these Castles may involve a manual entrance to the dimensions is something regarding Mount Fuji (this relates to what I started off with above.)

But first allow me to familiarize you with the term Axis Mundi.
The axis mundi is literally the axis of the world, although there are several different ways of viewing a religion's axis mundi. The axis provides a connection between the various realms. This can connects dimensions, or the physical world and spiritual worlds.
This is important because Mount Fuji is considered an Axis Mundi in Shintoism.
Mt. Fuji is the tallest mountain in Japan. Physically reaching farther into the sky than any natural or man-made structure, it is an obvious bridge between land and sky. Made of stone, it also reaches deep into the ground. This makes it an ideal way to connect the realms. And various religions have their own respective Axis Mundi
So in this case I'd find it fitting if each Castle was the dimension connecter.

So therefore to go off this there probably are more castles in the other dimensions that haven't been shown yet.
(Desert [ ], Rock (the dimension that links everything together regardless)[ ], Acid [ ])

What these castles may look like in these respective dimensions I can't quite say for sure should they exist.
But if I were to pick something, I'd say that the Castle of the Desert would be similar to the Egyptian Pyramids/Temples, as they were also considered an Axis Mundi.

They could also be similar to ancient Semitic Structure, but I was thinking that the Rock dimension would fit this one since a while back I made a theory on how the Uchiha were similar to ancient Semitic Clans and how the Uchiha Clan Hideout was similar to ancient Structures called Ziggurats. Well it just so happens that Zigurats are also considered an Axis Mundi/dimension link.[ ]

And if a said Castle exists in the Acid Realm I'd consider it to be similar to something in Ancient Atlantis. [ ]
Now this raises one last question, how was Kaguya able to access these dimensions?
Interestingly enough, the Tree of Life is considered an Axis Mundi/connects the various realms in Norse Mythology.
So in case I guess the key would be the Shinju/God-Tree itself. Since Kaguya was apart of the Ten-Tails/ate the fruit, she was open to use these abilities.

This image relates well with the current dimensions.
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Also, I have a feeling that these castles may hold bits of Kaguya's Conscience. It's just a thought.


Now the question arises as to how does Kaguya manage to teleport herself and Naruto/Gang into these dimensions all at once.

The idea occurred to me after seeing what Tobirama said to Minato.
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Basically he's saying how he can use his Teleportation Jutsu by exploiting the Chakra Link Between Minato and Naruto.

He was referring to the Link they made to Teleport the Alliance. [ ][ ]
By sharing the Chakra between the alliance Naruto was able to create a Medium to link the ninjas and Teleport them together.

Now how does this relate to Kaguya?
Kaguya might be manipulating Chakra links of her own to Teleport her targets all at once.

Now you might be wondering as to how could Kaguya have a Chakra link with Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura/etc.
Here are some possible explanations:
Well it was mentioned several times that Kaguya was essentially the Origin of Chakra.
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Kaguya was also apart of the Ten tails.
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Her chakra was also born within her sons, which she was trying to take.
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Therefore, when Hagoromo spread the Ten-Tails Chakra Kaguya's Chakra was spread as well.
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This Chakra was then spread down the Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki, and Hyuuga clan.
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And then Hagoromo also used Ninshuu to connect People and started the Shinobi Sect.
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So Kaguya's chakra spread down through the various Clans that bred off-spring, the Ten-Tails' separated parts, and the Connection of Ninshuu. She tries to make chakra links to teleport everyone at once. It's also possible this ability is similar to Sasuke's Eye.

So through these Mediums, Kaguya's Chakra was spread-out and can enable her to simultaneously teleport her Ninja Targets.

(Naturally, since all Chakra was from Kaguya/Shinju everyone's chakra is from her anyways but just to show you there's more than one way I listed the above which help create a Medium to Link people similar to Flying Thunder God to Kaguya's Space-Time.


TL;DR
  • Kaguya's castle on the Volcano has folkoric connections.
  • Kaguya's Ice castle differs from the Volcanic Castle.
  • Mount Fuji is considered an axis Mundi in connecting the Heavens with the earth.
  • The Ice Castle bears resemblance to European Architecture.
  • Traveling between the dimensions requires immense chakra, therefore an alternate route may be present should one lack the sufficient chakra.
  • The Castles might contain an entrance to each of the dimensions, making them an Axis Mundi.
  • The Castles are in locations that are ideal for Kaguya to find compared to others.
  • Gaining access to this ability involves the Shinju's fruit/God-Tree.
  • The Tree of Life is considered the connecter of realms in mythology.
  • Kaguya's Chakra remnants are scattered throughout Shinobi history and perhaps could be exploited by Kaguya.
  • There probably is a castle in every dimension.
  • These castles may hold secrets on Kaguya, or perhaps bits of her conscience/memories.


Thank you, Vega
 
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Nice theory! I believe I get what your saying. In other words, your saying that the castles are what we would call "gps coordinates" on a map. Without the castles she would just end up lost?
 

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nice! didnt see a desert castle unfortunatly. :/ but sasuke said he sensed naruto at the spot he arrived where obito opened up a portal. if castles are connected he should have found a castle instead.

i also noticed the castles we've seen look different. i agree ice's is very european
 
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Nice theory! I believe I get what your saying. In other words, your saying that the castles are what we would call "gps coordinates" on a map. Without the castles she would just end up lost?
that idea has already been posted

 

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how refreshing, a non-troll thread with a good theory. It got me out of the trolling mode.
nice effort man
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Great theory as usual Vega =D

Though we have yet to see castles in any of the other 4 dimensions, I would find it interesting if Kishi used architecture of different regions as inspiration for their design. I like your idea that Kaguya was able to teleport Team 7 + Obito via a FTG-like chakra connection due to her originally possessing all chakra. Although it's difficult to say what role the castles will play, they are likely to be relevant to Kaguya's plans in the near-future. Interesting read as usual man!
 

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Nice theory! I believe I get what your saying. In other words, your saying that the castles are what we would call "gps coordinates" on a map. Without the castles she would just end up lost?
Thanks! I didn't quite think like GPS lol but to an extent yes I imagine they are a good way to dignify her location.
Great theory as usual Vega =D

Though we have yet to see castles in any of the other 4 dimensions, I would find it interesting if Kishi used architecture of different regions as inspiration for their design. I like your idea that Kaguya was able to teleport Team 7 + Obito via a FTG-like chakra connection due to her originally possessing all chakra. Although it's difficult to say what role the castles will play, they are likely to be relevant to Kaguya's plans in the near-future. Interesting read as usual man!
Thanks Sparks :)

I agree with what you said. Now that Obito is gone they might really use a castle. This next few chapters are going to be exciting :)
 

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Wow, great read as always :)

I'm thinking now that these castles may be instrumental to Naruto and co. getting out of the dimension. I can picture them sealing Kaguya, and then BZ saying something along the lines of "you may have won, but there's no way out!".

Then, they'll go to the castle, and BZ will somehow cause it to collapse. As it is collapsing, they'll make a run for the exit, and make it in the nick of time, while BZ gets stuck there forever. (Crazy thoughts, I know :p )
 

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Interesting,

Sasuke seems to be able to sense chakra between different dimensions and he travels to a random location in the middle of nowhere where he thinks he sensed Naruto's chakra:


That much supports the Axis Mundi idea.
 

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the pyramid shapes need to be added in to this. they are historical monuments with mythological powers. like the temple on mt fuji
Yeah I agree with you, I've been looking up stuff on them but haven't found enough yet though.

Interesting,

Sasuke seems to be able to sense chakra between different dimensions and he travels to a random location in the middle of nowhere where he thinks he sensed Naruto's chakra:


That much supports the Axis Mundi idea.
lol. I can't quite see which way you mean.
If you mean as to the fact that why did Sasuke sense Naruto in a random spot doesn't support the castles that's only because its the special power they contain, "The Dual Resonance Power."
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Since they are halves of Hagoromo's power they naturally have the link to sense one another, shown previously while in the same dimension [ ] and now extending to others as well.

Sasuke may have also sensed since Kaguya opens a portal just before that and remember the Ice and Dessert dimensions connect directly. [ ] [ ] [ ]

But like you said at the same time it still shows that there is an Axis Mundi application relative to the scenario. :)
 

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I should clarify a bit.

First up I totally disagree with you on Hohenzollern and Neuschwanstein. There is a passing resemblance between those two castles and the structures we see in the manga but there are a lot of other buildings that look a lot more like them elsewhere.

Kishi copies the designs of real world temples a lot in the manga. Itachi for instance took Orochimaru’s hand on the steps to the Ise Jingu (a Shinto Shrine in Japan). The two structures in the realms don’t match up exactly with any buildings I know of but the one on the left looks like a hybrid of an Orthodox Church (e.g. Hagia Sofia – now a Mosque but originally a Church) and a Buddhist temple. The one on the right looks like any number of real world Pagodas.

I think it makes sense for the castles to serve as way points between the realsm but there is nothing to support that idea yet in the manga. Kaguya does not travel to the castles before skipping between dimensions and there aren’t castles in all of the dimensions we’ve seen so far.

I really like the basic idea of the Axis Mundi however. If there were shortcuts between the dimensions that allowed Sasuke and Naruto sense each other at certain locations even though they are in different realms then I think that opens the way for that idea.

More generally there have been a lot of theories pointing to the similarities of the current story to Norse Mythology and Yggdrasil. That particular slice of mythology is also present in Japan in Pure World Buddhism for which there are a lot more parallels beside:
Other Examples - Statues / The Lotus
Even though I disagree with bits of your theory, overall I like it a lot. The only other thing I would add is that it looks like the Shinju was present in the desert realm in the past. In Madara’s vision from the Naka Shrine Tablet, it shows the tree on what appears to be sand dunes (at least to me anyway). I figure the tree was a bridge between realms at one point and that the Axis Mundi as you call them are where the tree once was.
 
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I should clarify a bit.

First up I totally disagree with you on Hohenzollern and Neuschwanstein. There is a passing resemblance between those two castles and the structures we see in the manga but there are a lot of other buildings that look a lot more like them elsewhere.

Kishi copies the designs of real world temples a lot in the manga. Itachi for instance took Orochimaru’s hand on the steps to the Ise Jingu (a Shinto Shrine in Japan). The two structures in the realms don’t match up exactly with any buildings I know of but the one on the left looks like a hybrid of an Orthodox Church (e.g. Hagia Sofia – now a Mosque but originally a Church) and a Buddhist temple. The one on the right looks like any number of real world Pagodas.

I think it makes sense for the castles to serve as way points between the realsm but there is nothing to support that idea yet in the manga. Kaguya does not travel to the castles before skipping between dimensions and there aren’t castles in all of the dimensions we’ve seen so far.

I really like the basic idea of the Axis Mundi however. If there were shortcuts between the dimensions that allowed Sasuke and Naruto sense each other at certain locations even though they are in different realms then I think that opens the way for that idea.

More generally there have been a lot of theories pointing to the similarities of the current story to Norse Mythology and Yggdrasil. That particular slice of mythology is also present in Japan in Pure World Buddhism for which there are a lot more parallels beside:
Other Examples - Statues / The Lotus
Even though I disagree with bits of your theory, overall I like it a lot. The only other thing I would add is that it looks like the Shinju was present in the desert realm in the past. In Madara’s vision from the Naka Shrine Tablet, it shows the tree on what appears to be sand dunes (at least to me anyway). I figure the tree was a bridge between realms at one point and that the Axis Mundi as you call them are where the tree once was.
I only picked those two castles since they bore resemblance with the Ice castle, but yes I agree with you that they're probably numerous buildings with more similarities than these two. In fact the reason I showed those two was to show that there is something to look here beyond the norm. of redundant concepts/myths. My aim was not to show that these two are the superlative links, but rather to show that since they're so many castles (like the one shown) that it'd make sense to try and see a greater purpose in the castles.

I actually thought of Russian architecture the first moment I saw it, but that was just to show some real life application and as you mentioned Kishi loves to use numerous inspirations for his designs.

Yes I do agree that Kishi hasn't shown more than two castles, but we haven't seen much of the other dimensions either in detail as we did with the first two. Kaguya wouldn't require to go through the castles each time since I see them as the 'manual' way to travel through dimensions; or probably when she first stumbled upon these realms that was her method of getting through. Over time I imagine she developed a quicker way to manipulate the realms which is what we see now.

Indeed as you mentioned Yggdrasil and Japanese myths have overlapping connections but remember they're not the only ones that use a Tree of Life/God Tree. (I'll check out your theory as well, seems interesting :) )

You bring up a very excellent point regarding the Shinju's location in regards to the Axis Mundi. Those might be sand dunes, I thought they were mountains/land mass at first and then thought perhaps water but the Shinju point would fit perfectly with Yggdrasil.
 
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