kaguya,sasuke,obito, and madara were nerfed to make naruto stronger

[obito uchiha the wraith]

this might sound like bs at first but think about it. kaguyas chakra dwarfs even that of the jubis she should be neg diffing both of them yet naruto who only has a tiny fraction of bijuu power is fighting on almost even terms even with half of hagoromos and a bit of indras chakra he should still be getting trounced.

obito was a juubi jin but was not allowed to use a majority of his moves and was not allowed to use kamui. theres 0 reason why he shouldn't be able to phase and he should still be able to warp people.

madara had 3 rinnegan and almost full juubi but naruto was fighting him on even terms. narutos shadow clones could 1v1 limbo clones even though they lost that's still a big deal because naruto can make a ton of them.

sasuke gets half of hagoromos chakra and some of indras but only gets one real powerup the swap ability(perfect susanoo comes automatically with big chakra reserves) whilst naruto gets a slew of power ups some from bijuu others from sage powers. sasuke is not allowed to use amaterasu with his susanoo anymore and apparently sasukes susanoo which originally had extremely good defence is worse than narutos rm cloak in defense.

 

[~Ethereal~]

:d :d :d :d

 

[Gary777]

u shold write a letter to kishi coz he reads them a lot ...
ot the juubi was too huge when it was sealed in him making him slower to kamui as fighting against madara with kakashi he said so with kurama and shukaku inside him ... and btw kaguya does not want to kill them thats y she showed mercy earlier

 

[Yurei]

You guys always forget one little detail.

He's the MAIN character, of course he'll get the most powers.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Ahhh i don't think so.

 

[dark legion]

agreed .. +rep .. I support you man =D

 

[Gerkak]

Like I said before. All characters are nerfed at times. While what you are saying isn't exactly wrong it is something that affects all characters including naruto.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

You guys always forget one little detail.

He's the MAIN character, of course he'll get the most powers.

that's not an excuse for extremely limiting other characters because naruto isn't strong enough

 

[Gintõki1]

Butthurt Obito boy.

 

[bencoby]

All baring Sasuke was restricted, thats just the power he could come up with. He is just that weak.

 

[Meee]

almost every villain in fiction is nerfed/restricted, forced to hold back, all that bullshit, That's just how it is.

 

[Sound]

These desperation threads are getting old

O.T : No you have barely comprehended the manga. Hagoromo gave Sasuke the Rinnegan which Indra didn't have because he knew Indras never reached the potential of Asuras. He even said I will give you power because I neglected Indra in the past. And Naruto is the only one to have tamed the beasts that's why he can use their abilities to a full extent

 

[Howling Fox]

Butthurt shitbito fapkid lel

Sasughey was actually buffed to hell and still not strong enough. Shitbito is just weak and that's why Minato Tobirama and Kakashi raep him. Madara was arrogant and pay price for being a ****. Kaguya is just dumb.

I have solo u no diff. Congratulations fodder

 

[bencoby]

Butthurt shitbito fapkid lel

Sasughey was actually buffed to hell and still not strong enough. Shitbito is just weak and that's why Minato Tobirama and Kakashi raep him. Madara was arrogant and pay price for being a ****. Kaguya is just dumb.

I have solo u no diff. Congratulations fodder

I didnt know you dig those sort of parties.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

What about not wanting to kill Sasuke and naruto don't you understand?

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

What about not wanting to kill Sasuke and naruto don't you understand?

she has no reason to not want to kill them actually plus they already said they were going to try and kill them smartass

 

[DarkStar1]

These desperation threads are getting old

O.T : No you have barely comprehended the manga. Hagoromo gave Sasuke the Rinnegan which Indra didn't have because he knew Indras never reached the potential of Asuras. He even said I will give you power because I neglected Indra in the past. And Naruto is the only one to have tamed the beasts that's why he can use their abilities to a full extent

Butthurt shitbito fapkid lel

Sasughey was actually buffed to hell and still not strong enough. Shitbito is just weak and that's why Minato Tobirama and Kakashi raep him. Madara was arrogant and pay price for being a ****. Kaguya is just dumb.

I have solo u no diff. Congratulations fodder

Consider this shit thread solo'd U_U

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lmao so true. Kishi's writing like a fool right now. He established mechanics and abilities for his characters but when he realized naruto's abilities logically can't match up, he crutched his characters.

Let's think about it.

Obito: he just witnessed that he completely shat on naruto with the shinju yet he doesn't use it again? He just leaves the shinjuu to fight SA and not impede nardo or sauce at all.

Madara: You don't even need to say anything for madara... From his inception, Kishi used him as a sandbag to display other characters. Kishi had madara standing around to take hits from gokage when he could neg diff them. Kishi made him sit around against BM naruto(after he already stated he'd take the 9 tails from naruto) and let obito do all the work when madara could have neg diffed the entire lot of them with obito's help. Kishi made him waste time with hashirama -- not making use any rinnegan or mokuton moves or anything -- so that naruto wouldn't need to worry about madara, then he later reveals to us that he could 1 shot hashirama when kishi saw fit. Kishi then makes madara slaughter tobirama, minato, kakashi, naruto and sasuke before becoming a jin. Madara then becomes a jin and once again stands around letting obito yank out some of his chakra(to go give to naruto because suddenly a jin can be saved by putting the chakra back in) and letting guy hit him all around the place to weaken him. When madara finally reaches his peak and poses a serious threat to naruto, kishimoto just writes him off quickly without a struggle.

Kaguya: Kaguya comes along with 'unimaginable chakra' and abilities to warp all over the place and make linked worm holes. Kaguya's power comes directly from the god tree itself, while naruto's comes from hagoromo(weaker than kaguya) and pieces of bijuu chakra (faarrrr weaker than hagoromo). Yet, with the help of the 5 tails, naruto's able to overpower kaguya in strength. Yea, sure. In fact, Kaguya completely broke PS apart with relative ease and we've seen it explicitly stated that she can absorb any ninjutsu, yet she doesn't just absorb naruto's cloak chakra everytime he touches her..?

There's just so much wrong with the latest fighting. It's no longer about strategizing and actual skill; it's now about BS nerfing. TBH it's not even a surprise considering the BS way naruto beat both Kiba and neji back in part 1. It wasn't that bad back then, but it got really worse at the kakuzu and pain fight, and now the war arc has just made it unbearable. Kishi needs to stop crutching every single opponent that fights naruto and actually make some truly interesting fights.

What kishi's doing right now is basically action movie sequences. The bad gunmen always miss and have no intelligence, while the good guy is the greatest(and only) marksman in the entire world. -yawn-

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On the bright side, Kishi doesn't use too much Bias in other fights that don't involve naruto... At least then there's some force of logic...

 

[NeutralChaos]

Obviously, but it's not because Naruto is stronger, it's because his fighting tactics are suited to battle Kaguya. If she wanted, she could destroy everything, but her character does not allow so since she is not much of a fighter in terms of battle smarts. Kishimoto even stated there was no way for Naruto and Sasuke to logically defeat Madara, since he is so heavy on fighting, so he had to replace him with someone of the same power, but less battle-loving and smart.

 

[Gagster]

Lel, you missed the part where perfect jins > Regular Jins.

And when has Sasuke susanoo ever had "extremely good" defenses? When it got sliced by Danzo's wind jutsu? When A Shattered it?