Kaguya/Hagoromo/Ashura/Indra arc ISN'T FILLER

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I already created a thread mentioning that with proof but some people seem to be brain damaged anyway , I'm gonna show u proof again.

Directly from Naruto Shippuden director:

"When the 4th Ninja War began on TV, I never thought of how far Kishimoto's Manga continues for. As I have mentioned, TV cannot overtake Manga episode, It requires a TV original episode(aka filler). I asked Kishimoto many questions about the Kaguya/Indra/Asura arc too. When Kaguya/Indra/Asura arc is over, Naruto will come back to the Manga episode. It was a long way for 14 years.... The work has not been finished yet. But successive episode directors are coming back at the last chapter. Don't miss it!

Behold I don't see anyone denying this now , the arc didn't contradict anything which means there's no reason to label it as filler . Kishi helped them out with the script and stuff so yeah please this arc is canon don't label it as filler .

Source: artondrius

Oh and if u think there's contradictions read this:

Quote Originally Posted by Zawerni View Post
So Hagoromo being born with white Byakugan-looking eyes, even though he was supposedly born with Rinnegan in manga, is canon?

Hagoromo having Sharingan is canon?

Hagoromo using Chidori, a jutsu invented by Kakashi loong after Hagoromo died, is canon?

Hagoromo one-shotting Hamura with Chidori is canon?

Hagoromo having Perfect Susano'o is canon?

Hagoromo creating the Tailed Beasts immediately after becoming the Juubi Jinchuriki, even though multiple times in the manga it is stated he created the Tailed Beasts before his death, is canon?

Indra using Chidori is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Mangekyo pattern, even though he has his own canon pattern, is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Susano'o is canon?

Ashura having Rasengan, a jutsu invented by Minato loong after Ashura died, is canon?

Ashura having Wood Style is canon?

Ashura never showing his chakra avatar, which was shown in the manga, is canon?



Filler arc is filler.

NOW THIS IS ME COUNTERING HIM:

IT WAS NEVER SAID IN THE MANGA HAGOROMO WAS BORN WITH RENNIGAN BLACK ZETSU SAID TO OBITO THE ONLY ONE AWAKENING THE RINNEGAN ARE MADARA AND HAGROMO . AWAKENING
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-Yeah It's from sharingan to rinnegan manga facts go read chapter 560

-Lighning jutsus aren't invented by Kakshsi , Hagoromo didn't use chidori it's just a lightning jutsu there's no name to it , lol Kakashi created the lighning style that is what u mean ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

-Again It's not chidori it's a lightning jutsu that looks like it Kakashi was the one who named it chidori later on he didn't create it

-Yeah it's canon what about it? He has Mangekyou Sharingan afterall

-Yeah now tell me how the fk can Minato know that rasengan existed before ? Did he exist in ashura's era to know about it , he thought he's the one who created it which means there's no contradiction here

-Yeah so even if he has wood style where's the contradiction? Like minato's explanation Hashirama couldn't know about who created wood style , he wasn't alive in ashura's era

-Hagoromo said Ashura and Indra fought multiple times it was just off-panel , now that's really dumb question to ask

#REKT
 
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Omg here we go again :coffee:

Kishi helped design Itachi and Shisui's PS for the video games. Is that canon then?
 
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Naruto vs Sasuke was half filler
All those arcs are filler

All scenes not shown in manga are filler unless Kishimoto himself directs the movie
 

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Wut? By "Kaguya/Hagoromo/Indra/Ashura arc" are you referring to the fillers that came up during the fight with Kaguya? Cause those were most certainly filler and contradicted several parts of the story.
 

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Wut? By "Kaguya/Hagoromo/Indra/Ashura arc" are you referring to the fillers that came up during the fight with Kaguya? Cause those were most certainly filler and contradicted several parts of the story.

No they're did not as I mentioned Kishi was involved= Canon
 

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No, it wasn't filler. Filler exists to waste time for the anime, which this technically wasn't doing. This was just self contradictory at several points and non canon.
 

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Ashura's avatar was different from what was shown in the manga
isn't that enough evidence ?
 

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Ashura's avatar was different from what was shown in the manga
isn't that enough evidence ?

And Indra's eyes were different too.

OT: 123fire, answer my question. Are Itachi and Shisui's PS canon? I asked you this in a previous thread of yours too and I didnt get an answer.
 
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Filler fapper at it again with the filler is canon mess.
 

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indra/ashura arc is filler af, indra has sasuke's ms, can use chidori/shadow clone and ashura use rasengan etc
 

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It's still vague what these questions were though.
 

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No they're did not as I mentioned Kishi was involved= Canon

So Hagoromo being born with white Byakugan-looking eyes, even though he was supposedly born with Rinnegan in manga, is canon?

Hagoromo having Sharingan is canon?

Hagoromo using Chidori, a jutsu invented by Kakashi loong after Hagoromo died, is canon?

Hagoromo one-shotting Hamura with Chidori is canon?

Hagoromo having Perfect Susano'o is canon?

Hagoromo creating the Tailed Beasts immediately after becoming the Juubi Jinchuriki, even though multiple times in the manga it is stated he created the Tailed Beasts before his death, is canon?

Indra using Chidori is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Mangekyo pattern, even though he has his own canon pattern, is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Susano'o is canon?

Ashura having Rasengan, a jutsu invented by Minato loong after Ashura died, is canon?

Ashura having Wood Style is canon?

Ashura never showing his chakra avatar, which was shown in the manga, is canon?



Filler arc is filler.
 

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So Hagoromo being born with white Byakugan-looking eyes, even though he was supposedly born with Rinnegan in manga, is canon?

Hagoromo having Sharingan is canon?

Hagoromo using Chidori, a jutsu invented by Kakashi loong after Hagoromo died, is canon?

Hagoromo one-shotting Hamura with Chidori is canon?

Hagoromo having Perfect Susano'o is canon?

Hagoromo creating the Tailed Beasts immediately after becoming the Juubi Jinchuriki, even though multiple times in the manga it is stated he created the Tailed Beasts before his death, is canon?

Indra using Chidori is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Mangekyo pattern, even though he has his own canon pattern, is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Susano'o is canon?

Ashura having Rasengan, a jutsu invented by Minato loong after Ashura died, is canon?

Ashura having Wood Style is canon?

Ashura never showing his chakra avatar, which was shown in the manga, is canon?



Filler arc is filler.

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So Hagoromo being born with white Byakugan-looking eyes, even though he was supposedly born with Rinnegan in manga, is canon?

Hagoromo having Sharingan is canon?

Hagoromo using Chidori, a jutsu invented by Kakashi loong after Hagoromo died, is canon?

Hagoromo one-shotting Hamura with Chidori is canon?

Hagoromo having Perfect Susano'o is canon?

Hagoromo creating the Tailed Beasts immediately after becoming the Juubi Jinchuriki, even though multiple times in the manga it is stated he created the Tailed Beasts before his death, is canon?

Indra using Chidori is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Mangekyo pattern, even though he has his own canon pattern, is canon?

Indra having Sasuke's Susano'o is canon?

Ashura having Rasengan, a jutsu invented by Minato loong after Ashura died, is canon?

Ashura having Wood Style is canon?

Ashura never showing his chakra avatar, which was shown in the manga, is canon?



Filler arc is filler.
The solo was to stronk man.
 

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It doesn't matter whether it's canon or not or whether it's viewed that way by others. Chikara is my favourite arc and it creates no inconsistencies or contradictions and there's no reason it couldn't have taken place, but most of all I just enjoy it.

So, that's all matters- honestly.
 

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It doesn't matter whether it's canon or not or whether it's viewed that way by others. Chikara is my favourite arc and it creates no inconsistencies or contradictions and there's no reason it couldn't have taken place, but most of all I just enjoy it.

So, that's all matters- honestly.

Chikara takes place before the war, but at the end Naruto uses his Chakra cloak that he only obtained after taking control of Kurama's chakra after the war had started. :hint:
 

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Chikara takes place before the war, but at the end Naruto uses his Chakra cloak that he only obtained after taking control of Kurama's chakra after the war had started. :hint:

oooo that's true, still- it's a different form of Kurama and certainly isn't a standard cloak or tailed beast form, whatever it was, was brought out by Kabuto's Hydra Kyuubi Clone experimentation and the Ama no Hoko.

It IS a minor inconsistency that he doesn't recognise it later when he take's Kurama's chakra and unlocks it but i'm not expecting it to give this a shoutout or fit into exact considering the time of Chikara within Shippuden is vague already.

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Regardless, small details like that shouldn't make an entire, enjoyable arc redundant. What matters is that people find entertainment value in it, not that it slots into some historian-style strict timeline like in real life :)
 

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Nothing is more filler than that arc...

All the events were copy/paste of different manga events, nothing original.
P.S. no new move-set, all were variants of something already from the manga, discrediting all the respected creators of several Jutsu...


It was like they didn't even tried.
 
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