[Theory] Kaguya able to cast I.T without the moon

[Draven]

We all know according to the story so far Kaguya supposedly was able to cast I.T before the moon was created by the SO6P. Here is what we know of her She was from a far off land, She possessed Byakugan and the 3rd eye sharinnegan. According the the sage she cast I.T before the moon was created now how would this be possible if Madara needed the moon to cast it on everyone at once.

Maybe Kaguya didnt cast it on the whole planet at once but she did cast it on large groups. Maybe this is why the So6P and his brother wasnt affected and was able to fight their mother. While doing research on the Byakugan for my

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i came across this info pertaining to the Byakugans telescopic vision Hinata and Neji were able to accomplish.

The Byakugan also is capable of extending the range of genjutsu and other vision-related techniques, as Kaguya was able to use Sharingan genjutsu on many people thanks to her extended vision.

So if this info was true maybe her extended Byakugan vision allowed her to hit alot of people with the sharingan 3rd eye I.T

This could be the exact reason why her I.T didnt catch everyone all at once and allowed some people to rebel including her own sons.

 

[Angelic.]

i think she had golden byakugan. whatever that is.
she could probably see all over the world with those eyes

 

[Goetia]

She could've cast it after the Juubi body was used to create the moon.

 

[Draven]

She could've cast it after the Juubi body was used to create the moon.

problem with that is it doesnt match the story supposedly so6p didnt create the moon till after they beat the juubi if thats the case there was no moon during the time kaguya cast I.T because she ate the fruit first in the story to gain the power to cast the I.T

 

[Everztar]

What if she could fly? All she had to do is to get high enough and just fly around like a angry bee and cast it all over the place?

 

[Draven]

If she was able to cast I.T then Rikudou and his brother must've killed her to stop it? Why didn't he tell Naruto about this?

maybe he didnt have the time to tell naruto and sasuke. or maybe kishimoto didnt want that info for naruto because then it would have ruined it for all us readers

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

I figured as such . it's quite a plausible theory

 

[The Sach]

What if she could fly? All she had to do is to get high enough and just fly around like a angry bee and cast it all over the place?

That is one heck of a crazy thought.>_O

problem with that is it doesnt match the story supposedly so6p didnt create the moon till after they beat the juubi if thats the case there was no moon during the time kaguya cast I.T because she ate the fruit first in the story to gain the power to cast the I.T

Indeed it is possible to cast infinite tsukuyomi without moon. If you read one scan with attention, you will understand it, and that is this scan.

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According to this scan,moon is needed for two things,
1. To awaken the third eye, left up panel.
2. To reflect it. bottom right panel.
Overall I think she was able to cast infinite Tsukuyomi on few people and hence 2nd thing wasn't necessary. Also it is said that she already had 'third eye' and hence moon isn't needed to awaken it. So Moon isn't necessary requirement.U_U

 

[Hori]

Well her doing that might mean she did it before they were born, hrr kids I mean. Imagine from the time of Hagoromo and now the n7mber of ninjas is increasing. Well when we look at it there were fewer peoplw with chskra back then. Since themoon is required to make the whole population on planet fall to genjutsu then maybe the brothers destroyed it and then when Hagoromo assimilated the juubi he created another mo9n or repiared it.

 

[jt1891]

Problem is, everyone is assuming that the Sage actually created the moon when we know that Kishi has no problem changing the mythology up as he expands the story. In fact, what we know argues directly against it. Hagoromo created the Tailed Beasts from the Ten-Tails chakra, and survived the process because he kept the Gedo Mazo within himself. If he created the moon to seal away the Gedo Mazo, he would've had to do so on the verge of death with only his own chakra, which is highly unlikely.

Also, the Uchiha Tablet states that only when someone who possesses the power of 'Transmigration' approaches the moon can they awaken the Third Eye. If Hagoromo created the moon, how would he or Indra know that? Neither awakened the Third Eye, only Kaguya did. And if he created the moon, why exactly would it cause the Third Eye to awaken in the first place? It's only a mass of rock.

Most likely, the moon has always existed and has some connection to the divine, which is why it can awaken the Third Eye.

 

[davidou]

I don't know if that was translation variance by mangapanda but:

For "Eternal Tsukiyomi" , you need the 9 tomoed sharingan and the tree.

For "Infinite Tsukiyomi" , you need the 9 tomoed sharingan , the tree and the moon.


Like you said , she may not be able to sense every brain living on Earth , like Madara is , probably with the help of the moon that sees everything.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Also, the Uchiha Tablet states that only when someone who possesses the power of 'Transmigration' approaches the moon can they awaken the Third Eye. If Hagoromo created the moon, how would he or Indra know that? Neither awakened the Third Eye, only Kaguya did. And if he created the moon, why exactly would it cause the Third Eye to awaken in the first place? It's only a mass of rock.

Actually, it's more or less implied Hagoromo did unlock the third eye as he has a rinnegan seal or possibly even a tomoeless third eye on his forehead.

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The colored version being red only further supports that. Of course it could also be a tattoo, but I believe it's too large and colorful to simply be a coincidence.

Most likely, the moon has always existed and has some connection to the divine, which is why it can awaken the Third Eye.

Bingo. In part, this is what I believe and here is the proof.

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Two moons, not one. Of course I'm sure people will debate that is the sun, but clearly it is night in those panels...

Here is where my theory comes in. The place Kaguya came from based on the original story about her called the Tale of the Bamboo Cutter is the moon. There, a civilization of moon people dwelt, came to Earth and took her back with them. They are often depicted as either rabbit people or people with large ears or horns as she possesses. Hagoromo also stated the people referred to her as the Rabbit Goddess. Perhaps there was already a moon before Hagoromo created the present day one and it was destroyed somehow, possibly by Hagoromo himself in order to break Infinite Tsukuyomi, but he needed another one in order to seal the Gedo Mazo to keep it out of the wrong hands, as well as possibly to keep the tides from flooding the lands and the ecosystems from being destroyed lols. The sword of Nunoboko was said to have been used by Hagoromo to shape the land. Perhaps this was needed after his battle with either Kaguya or his brother or the destruction of the first moon. With this in mind, I think Hagoromo may have told Sasuke the jutsu to destroy the moon off panel. Possibly summoning the full force of the deva path or maybe even all paths.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Also, the Uchiha Tablet states that only when someone who possesses the power of 'Transmigration' approaches the moon can they awaken the Third Eye. If Hagoromo created the moon, how would he or Indra know that? Neither awakened the Third Eye, only Kaguya did. And if he created the moon, why exactly would it cause the Third Eye to awaken in the first place? It's only a mass of rock.

Actually, it's more or less implied Hagoromo did unlock the third eye as he has a rinnegan seal or possibly even a tomoeless third eye on his forehead.

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The colored version being red only further supports that. Of course it could also be a tattoo, but I believe it's too large and colorful to simply be a coincidence.

Most likely, the moon has always existed and has some connection to the divine, which is why it can awaken the Third Eye.

Bingo. In part, this is what I believe and here is the proof.

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Two moons, not one. Of course I'm sure people will debate that is the sun, but clearly it is night in those panels...

Here is where my theory comes in. The place Kaguya came from based on the original story about her, called the Tale of the Bamboo Cutter is the moon. There, a civilization of moon people dwelt, came to Earth and took her back with them. They are often depicted as either rabbit people or people with horns as she possesses. Hagoromo also stated the people referred to her as the Rabbit Goddess. Perhaps there was already a moon before Hagoromo created the present day one and it was destroyed somehow, possibly by Hagoromo himself in order to break Infinite Tsukuyomi but he needed another one in order to seal the Gedo Mazo to keep it out of the wrong hands, as well as possibly to keep the tides from flooding the lands and the ecosystems from being destroyed lols. The sword of Nunoboko was said to have been used by Hagoromo to shape the land. Perhaps this was needed after his battle with either Kaguya or his brother or the destruction of the first moon. With this in mind, I think Hagoromo may have told Sasuke the jutsu to destroy the moon off panel. Possibly summoning the full force of the deva path or maybe even all paths.

 

[JCW]

lmaooo. what if she did or something of the sort and everything we read. watched is a dream but of the future. we are watching the future and what actually is going on is kaguya is showing hagoromo what will happen if he wins... she shows him that he would be too weak to help for real besides giving chakra and she still manages to come back and once she does she will in turn live in the future and she loses because that was her fate. show is called naruto because he basically changed gods fate because of his own will.


omfg i just made naruto a hunna times better

 

[Battle Neurosis]

Yeah....what you mentioned can be possibly true!!

 

[flyboyissac]

There's 2 moons like I had in a thread once but most people just said it was a sun and I was a troll neg rep me left end of my story

 

[ShinjuMadara]

I agree, the byakugan amplifies the powers of the Sharingan/Rinnegan or at least the range

 

[ninjarasengan]

problem with that is it doesnt match the story supposedly so6p didnt create the moon till after they beat the juubi if thats the case there was no moon during the time kaguya cast I.T because she ate the fruit first in the story to gain the power to cast the I.T

She ate the fruit to suppress the endless wars, not to cast I.T.

according to the stories she was being refereed to as the Rabbit Goddess for a period of time and this tittle was implied to carry positive connotations.

but over-time she gain another tittle and became known as a demon, and it was during this period that she pursued the moon's eye plan.

The way i interpreted it was that she gained the ability to use chakra and fought in the wars suppressing them and gained worshipers as people witnessed her godlike abilities...but as time went on she became drunk on her own power and grew conceited( basically i see her pulling a Madara and walking around telling people to obey her and boasting about the power she wielded. But as we know as long as people have free will some wouldn't just submit to that sort of thing)...and due to this people started to fear and rebelling against her...thus to force these rebels to submit to her, she possibly developed I.T.

Also, note technically we have no Idea when Kaguya disappeared from history, or whether she was defeated by someone, God Tree rebirth itself from within her since she consumed it's fruit....ect...It may not match up now, but that is because we a being given bits of the story and they may not even be in chronological order either.

 

[ninjarasengan]

Problem is, everyone is assuming that the Sage actually created the moon when we know that Kishi has no problem changing the mythology up as he expands the story. In fact, what we know argues directly against it. Hagoromo created the Tailed Beasts from the Ten-Tails chakra, and survived the process because he kept the Gedo Mazo within himself. If he created the moon to seal away the Gedo Mazo, he would've had to do so on the verge of death with only his own chakra, which is highly unlikely.

Also, the Uchiha Tablet states that only when someone who possesses the power of 'Transmigration' approaches the moon can they awaken the Third Eye. If Hagoromo created the moon, how would he or Indra know that? Neither awakened the Third Eye, only Kaguya did. And if he created the moon, why exactly would it cause the Third Eye to awaken in the first place? It's only a mass of rock.

Most likely, the moon has always existed and has some connection to the divine, which is why it can awaken the Third Eye.

If he created the moon to seal away the Gedo Mazo, he would've had to do so on the verge of death with only his own chakra, which is highly unlikely.

You know this doesn't really change the past mythology or even go against it. originally the Bijuu were called demons and technically they could still be classified as such, even though they are made of chakra. In japanese mythology godly beings that turn malevolent are classified as demons. Juubi/Shinju is a godly being...the Bijuu are parts of it who eventually became corrupted by hatred and turned malevolent(towards humans at least)...and since, wasn't it said that the Sage created the moon on his death bed? Ie on the verge of death...your attempt to dismiss this canon statement is also purely based on your own feelings and you didn't even support your claim with facts( How do you know how much chakra the Sage had on his own...remember he did inherit power from the fruit which made his mother a goddess) as for gedou mazou...we don't know the time frame from when the sage created the Bijuu and when he extracted the gedou mazou from himself and supposedly created the moon. We also don't know if the Sages moon is the original moon or if it was possibly formed from remnants of a moon that existed before...

and we also have no Idea if the Sage or Indra awakened the third eye...the pictures that were shown during the sage's explanation don't necessarily match the timeline of the events that transpired.

As for the moon,It can easily be explained away by saying something leaked from the Juubi husk and saturated the moon...the way their planet is saturated with natural energy that might have originated from Juubi

 

[Draven]

like i said in my original post it is just a theory as such its debatable so im not turning down any points. Im just stating what i surmised to be an option its fits the story and it could be a possibility for all we know.