Kages vs Tobi, Team Naruto vs Madara

Who wins?

  • Madara loses, but Tobi wins

    Votes: 10 40.0%
  • Tobi loses, but Madara wins

    Votes: 5 20.0%
  • Both Tobi and Madara win

    Votes: 10 40.0%
  • Both Tobi and Madara lose

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • Total voters
    25

shogun973

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i dnt know i believe dust release is connected to kamui due to the fact that tobi retrieved sasuke
 

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He would be Kamui b4 then so it dosen't matter

Are you freaking kidding me? You know how easy it is to make clones? I mean, I could say the same thing. Example: Madara uses meteor that Kakashi can't dodge first. Game over. Do you see the flaw in dismissing a battle with "so and so will strike first..."



Chakra-wise Naruto and Bee can match Madara. Kakashi can analyze from the rear with Guy as his back-up.

BM Bee and Naruto can hold the point of attack effectively, with Naruto clones matching Madara clones. While the real ones fight against PS.

Shinra Tensei isn't a plausible option, along with several of the paths. Quite frankly, Madara hasn't shown much ability outside of the push/pull factor of the Rinnegan. The 2 strongest Tailed Beasts can hold there own, in fact, I'd say they keep him on the defensive enough to give Kakashi the opening he needs.

It doesn't need to be a big window, since he's been shown to be very fast and very accurate with Kamui as of right now.

Until Naruto and Bee get unlimited chakra, their chakra can NEVER match Madara's. If the battle drags out, they will run out of chakra. They would have to win quickly if they were able to at all.

Although analyzing does some good, it can't put them up to Madara's level. It's completely different. Even if they know what he can do, it doesn't mean they'll be able to stop him. Just saying that they can "analyze" isn't really saying much. Anyone can analyze. Madara can do the same while he battles.

Gai as backup isn't much good either. What is Gai supposed to use against Madara? The eight paths would be suicide, and I'm not even sure if that could break through a perfect Susanoo.

Naruto's clones CANNOT match Madara's clones. Naruto will slowly lose chakra and tire, but Madara will not. Madara can do the same thing he's been doing to the kages. Also, when Naruto fights using his clones, they serve mostly as distractions. Madara's can full out attack. Again, he needn't worry about losing chakra.

Just because he's only shown 2 paths doesn't mean he can only use those two. He just hasn't needed to use some of the other ones yet. I believe those paths are a package deal. The rinnegan enables the user to use ALL of those paths; it doesn't select only 2 paths that the user can use. Besides, those 2 paths are plenty effective, especially if he has several clones.

Madara said that his perfect Susanoo is most likely on par with a bijuu's power. Naruto, despite having the nine tails, only has half of Kurama's full power because Minato sealed the other half away.

I don't see them being able to keep Madara on the offensive with their meager attacks. You're also not taking any of Madara's attacks into account. What happens to the plan you suggested when one of them dies? Who's backing up Gai?

Also, do you KNOW how fast Kakashi is compared to Madara? Madara himself was the one to awaken the rinnegan, not Nagato. I'd imagine he's more experienced with it because he was the original owner, and you know, it's the same eye anyway... same eye = same powers. This means Madara should have all 6 paths.

The chakra and clones pretty much win Madara this fight, ocmbined with all of his amazing jutsu..
 
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Teams with Kamui FTW.

Tobi Solos the Kages and Madara loses to team Naruto
 

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Obito wins effortlessly.

Madara loses.
 
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no. kakashi is the best person to support someone battling tobi. kages wouldnt be able to hit him. moreover theyve got nothing to stop the 6 immortal jins in V2 mode.
Madara himself was the one to awaken the rinnegan, not Nagato.
kishimoto: tobi and madara know each other.
for this to be possible, madara couldnt have awakened nagatos rinnegan

tobi loses
to what?

obito loses and madara wins. if madara decides to use perfect susano then narutos group is screwed.
jinton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big targets that dont have natural defenses.
of course YOU would say that. PS can rival bijuus,not defeat perfect jins. and obitos not losing.
Madara said that his perfect Susanoo is most likely on par with a bijuu's power.
most bijuus vastly differ in power.

obitos beasts get taken out quickly
obitos jins are immortal.
 

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So, Madara wouldn't lose. He could grab Naruto and Bee and absorb their Bijuu Chakra. >_>
He can spam Susanoo Clones.
He can use Katon's to which they have no answer
He still has his genjutsu
He still has his Perfect Susanoo
He still has AWoFT and other mokuton jutus.
He still calls forth meteors.
Essentially, his spamming of susanoo clones would prove to be bad for Gai and Kakashi.
His Preta Path spells trouble for Bee and Naruto. We've seen Madara use Perfect Susanoo in an instant,so should Kakashi try to Kamui him, he needs only summon forth Perfect Susanoo to drain Kakashi's stamina, as I doubt he can take out something the size of PS
 
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