Kages im calling you out!

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Hashirama is strong and all that even called the god of shinobi;
He was Hiruzen's sensei right (together with Tobirama).
Now every sensei's desire should be that his students be better and make more advancement than themselves.
So I expect that Hashirama's desire wud be that Hiruzen was stronger than him in the long run.
 

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That is how awesome hiruzen is, he did mini shinra tensei without rinnegan :D
Lol. No doubt.
What if that's Orochimaru's chakra that causes the building to crack?
They both were glaring at each other intensively no doubt it was a combined effort.

I said shake not crack.

Shaking a building, and cracking a barrier are both in the same chakra ranges no doubt. One could even say what Hiruzen and Orochimaru did was above what Hashirama had shown.

Barrier>Building in restraining.
 
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You obviously Didn't read the post right, he said make the room crack by HIMSELF. and and oro wasn't worried about hiruzen.
 

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Dr Proof is gonna troll us with manga facts that isn't relevant anymore.
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You obviously Didn't read the post right, he said make the room crack by HIMSELF. and and oro wasn't worried about hiruzen.
You obviously have read this page thoroughly. Go read the post where I correct myself.
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:cool: That's what I do brother.
 

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Shaking a building, and cracking a barrier are both in the same chakra ranges no doubt. One could even say what Hiruzen and Orochimaru did was above what Hashirama had shown.

Barrier>Building in restraining.

Hashirama could crack the whole room by himself while that small crack took Orochimaru and Hiruzen.
 

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Lol. No doubt.

They both were glaring at each other intensively no doubt it was a combined effort.

Exactly,combined...not alone.And the scale of Hashirama's jutsus are on a different level from any jutsu we have seen from Hiruzen.The simple fact that he couldn't be boud by the restraint of Edo Tensei shows how superior he is.
 

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Nah. I'm just trolling you guys it's obvious Hashirama>Hiruzen.
 
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Yeah true but the ones whom stated this were not born to see Hashirama in action..Based on how Hashirama delt with kyuubi in comparison to Hiruzen during the attack on konoha, saying Hashirama>Hiruzen even though old age may have played a small roll in Hiruzen's uselessness at that time

Oh come on... You can't compare that. It was said that Hashi can tame the Bijuu like pets, while Hiruzen actually had to FIGHT THE ****ING KYUUBI
 

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hiruzen is old and looks old

however Hashirama is old and looks young still like Tsunade
 
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