Kabuto's place

[theacknowledgedone]

Top 10 or Top 25?

Yeah he was OP up until Itachi put him in izanami and Orochimaru was revived. So where do you put him now?

Do you still think he remains in the top 10 even though he doesn't have Orochimaru's power?

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To me he's out of the top 10 now because of this IMO.

Don't give us the woulda coulda shoulda about him having DSM or when he had it. It's long gone now and we're talking about current sleeping Kabuto

GO.

 

[Lightbringer]

why do people not understand he still has DSM? He learned it on his own, it did not require Orochimaru's chakra to use.....DSM requires juugo's DNA to maintain and that is all.

Oro's chakra had no effect on his jutsu aside from edo tensei

Oro did not possess kekkei genkai, which means all his jutsu can be done by juts about anybody if they learn the seals/function, which Kabuto did.

 

[itachi4real]

People put him in top ten cus he can do edp tensei but i dont see it like that...so i say hes prolly top ten to top fifteen

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Kabuto is a level below Kakashi in my opinion.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He doesn't have dsm he learned it true enough but he had oro's DNA before learning it meaning he needed tht type of chakra for learning it

Oro has sage mode/ senjutsu chakra as well but never had a strong enough body to use it properly....

Kabuto has a good enough body but at same time doesn't have the type of chakra to go dsm

Oro and kabuto r opposites when it comes to sage mode one needs a certain type of body the other needs certain type of chakra (although oro now has a senju body now so he may show it )

But to answer ur question he is in like top 20-25 without dsm with it and no Edo tensi he's still top 10 material

 

[shikamoon89]

Remember chapter 164, when Tsunade messed up Kabuto's nervous system, and how fast he regain control of his body.
That's something.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Hard to say.

He still has DSM (he learnt it on his own), and he still has the Sound 4 DNA as he didn't just go and lose DNA (only Orochimaru's chakra).

So really he's basically only lost the number of Edo Tensei summons and in theory all of his best Summons as they were sealed.

But yeah, I'd say he's most likely out of the top 10... probably in the top 15 or 20 now that he's lost his Edo Army.


But at his best, he is probably right behind Obito pending on how well Edo Madara controls the Rinnegan (or for that matter if Edo Madara counts).

 

[HiddenSound]

Hmm, a Kabuto hate thread. Haven't seen one in a while.

 

[iNotorious]

Top 15 for sure!

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Hard to say.

He still has DSM (he learnt it on his own), and he still has the Sound 4 DNA as he didn't just go and lose DNA (only Orochimaru's chakra).

So really he's basically only lost the number of Edo Tensei summons and in theory all of his best Summons as they were sealed.

But yeah, I'd say he's most likely out of the top 10... probably in the top 15 or 20 now that he's lost his Edo Army.


But at his best, he is probably right behind Obito pending on how well Edo Madara controls the Rinnegan (or for that matter if Edo Madara counts).

Hmm, interesting. I actually thought he only knew it because of Oro's DNA? for his special chakra and what not. You want to pin point me in the right direction with a scan about that? haha

Hmm, a Kabuto hate thread. Haven't seen one in a while.

Meh. I wasn't hating on him by any means, more or less just curious as to where he would be w/o Oro's DNA.

 

[Draphsin]

He's low now, he cant enter DSM unless you believe he has massive amounts of chakra. He lost the chakra boost from oro & he cant gather nature energy automatically anymore.

 

[Silverblade]

Kabuto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kakashi

 

[Retsu]

top 15 at a minimum, he was always quite the medical nin and still has plenty of knowledge on almost all characters, not to mention he still possibly has dsm, and the entire sound 5 team imbedded in him, add the abilities of sasuke's lackeys to him and honestly how can he not be close to or apart of anyone's top 10?

 

[Lightbringer]

Hmm, interesting. I actually thought he only knew it because of Oro's DNA? for his special chakra and what not. You want to pin point me in the right direction with a scan about that? haha

Ok so first Kabuto says that people from the juugo clan have special bodies that can absorb the force of nature

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next Kabuto says that Orochimaru tried to gain sage mode, but couldn't because he didn't possess the right body

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Kabuto in this page states that he learned sage mode from Ryuchidou under the tutelage of the Sage White Snake and surpassed Orochimaru.(note that Kabuto knew what Orochimaru was capable of to make that statement.)

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Next we have this page where it says that senju mode works by taking your own internal chakra and augmenting it with Natural force......as long as you have chakra you can do this, it doesn't mean that he needs a certain type of chakra.

Thus, Kabuto still has Sage Mode

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[Naijakid]

Itachi is still far below him

 

[H a n]

Kabuto with DSM? Top 20 at that.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Kabuto with Edo tensei and DSM still makes top 5.

Kabuto in current state? ....he's asleep dude. People don't fight when they're asleep.

 

[-Punk-]

Ok so first Kabuto says that people from the juugo clan have special bodies that can absorb the force of nature

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next Kabuto says that Orochimaru tried to gain sage mode, but couldn't because he didn't possess the right body

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Kabuto in this page states that he learned sage mode from Ryuchidou under the tutelage of the Sage White Snake and surpassed Orochimaru.(note that Kabuto knew what Orochimaru was capable of to make that statement.)

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Next we have this page where it says that senju mode works by taking your own internal chakra and augmenting it with Natural force......as long as you have chakra you can do this, it doesn't mean that he needs a certain type of chakra.

Thus, Kabuto still has Sage Mode

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Thank you man , it's nice to see someone understands & doesn't hate just cause they don't like Kabuto .

Kabuto is still Top 5 , until proven he can't use his powers anymore .

 

[Lightbringer]

Thank you man , it's nice to see someone understands & doesn't hate just cause they don't like Kabuto .

Kabuto is still Top 5 , until proven he can't use his powers anymore .

yeah it's a shame that people overlook these facts because of his character

also making up the dumb argument about him not being effective in an open environment....which is not true because sage mode enhances all jutsu including the range and effectiveness of sound genjutsu and white dragon rage.

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Kabuto with Edo tensei and DSM still makes top 5.

Kabuto in current state? ....he's asleep dude. People don't fight when they're asleep.

I meant after losing all of Orochimaru's power

Thank you man , it's nice to see someone understands & doesn't hate just cause they don't like Kabuto .

Kabuto is still Top 5 , until proven he can't use his powers anymore .

I think you have the wrong idea about me hating on him ha, I just didn't want people to jump all over and say he was as strong as before.

yeah it's a shame that people overlook these facts because of his character

also making up the dumb argument about him not being effective in an open environment....which is not true because sage mode enhances all jutsu including the range and effectiveness of sound genjutsu and white dragon rage.

As I was going through your panels I found that they made sense except the part where Kabuto had Oro's DNA when training under the snakes because from their he obtained DSM. Doesn't that mean he had to have Oro's DNA to get that far to obtain those abilities because of the elevated chakra boost? because I thought it was clear that Oro couldn't do it without the proper vessel and the vessel couldn't do it without his power?